Should SSC Become a Federal State?

[Nolol cusub]

I think it is a horrible idea when it comes to a steady and stable development of the states and federal institutions. It is like throwing a wrench into the wheels of development at critical juncture in Somali institutional development. Here is why?

The wrecking ball effect I

Adding a 3rd Darod state would tip the balance in South in favor of Darods.

Galmudug (Hawiye)
Hirshabelle (Hawiye)
Jubaland (Darod)
Puntland (Darod)


How would Hawiyes react to this?

Either reject it or put forward Banaadir as state. Remember, Banaadir has more priority than any other state since it can sustain itself economically.


What if both states join?

Not so fast.(Pay attention here). The forces that organized the present Laascaanod uprisings are the same forces that have thwarted Banadir regional ambition. The minute both proposal are submitted these same forces will withdraw their support to SSC.


This is only in the South. What about the North,(Somaliland)?


Wrecking ball effect II. It will unnecessarily turn stable parts of Somaliland into political, economic and humanitarian disaster.



Nothing new here: Both Mogadishu and Hargeysa should put in place effective containment programs for the wildly destructive anti development instincts of certain regions.


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[Gubbet]

Why am I not surprised...

..at your presence "after" the fact as usual.


God damn these Daarood! Way ku ciileen! Must they perpetually create the pastor of grievance out of you! Damn them!

[GameChanger]

Laascaanod can't become itself federal state.. They should take all of Sool and Sanaag then maybe we will consider but first bring the Iidoors all the way to Burco but the truth is this is some weak azz waqooyie war with low casuality affair. The war is pretty much over imho Garaads will sit down in dialogue or accept status quo they aren't going beyond the ruins of LA..

you are the only person oo ciileen spamming the forum and with uncalled for venom day in and day out.. You don't have shaqo or anything like that..

Or maybe you don't read what you are posting.

[Nolol cusub]

Why am I not surprised...

..at your presence "after" the fact as usual.


God damn these Daarood! Way ku ciileen! Must they perpetually create the pastor of grievance out of you! Damn them!

Way disappointed, I expected one of your long entertaining wrecking ball commentaries.

[Gubbet]

GameChanger, who is currently on your ignore list, made this post.

Meh.

lol: Way disappointed, I expected one of your long entertaining wrecking ball commentaries.

Unfortunately I am not laughing or even joking.

[Nolol cusub]

Laascaanod can't become itself federal state.. They should take all of Sool and Sanaag then maybe we will consider but first bring the Iidoors all the way to Burco but the truth is this is some weak azz waqooyie war with low casuality affair. The war is pretty much over imho Garaads will sit down in dialogue or accept status quo they aren't going beyond the ruins of LA..

you are the only person oo ciileen spamming the forum and with uncalled for venom day in and day out.. You don't have shaqo or anything like that..

Or maybe you don't read what you are posting.

What if outside groups are behind it? Gubbet's drum beat suggests more work to be done. Sources in SL are also convinced the disgraced former Gedo warlord along with certain puntland politicians have participated the planning of Lascanod uprising.

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[FarhanYare]

No one is oppossing except for iidoor. However, certain clan has said banadir is off the table. They said what's yours is mine and what's mine is mine.

[Gubbet]

Really Farxaan? Darood is opposing Benadir State?

Hawiye is opposing "Benadir" State more than Darod and the one clan that absolutely opposes it more than all others combined is the caucus of Digil Mirifle + Others which has 90 MPs.

Y'all really love the Darood distraction for the fact neither you nor anyone else wants "Benadir State."

You have a Hawiye Abgaal Preaident right this second with only 60 out of 270+ MPs belonging to Darood.

Go and make."Benadir State" happen!

Darood ku lahaa, Darood aint the one saying to Guled Wiliq "Xamar Dayaa tahay, Xamar ma tihid!" Inside of Parliament!

[Nolol cusub]

No one is opposing except for iidoor. However, certain clan has said banadir is off the table. They said what's yours is mine and what's mine is mine.

On a personal level I wholeheartedly support everyone who wants to have the last word in their own state. I was probably the first person here in Somalinet to suggest local and state developments. Nothing changed, However, when these lofty state and Federal ideals are deployed for nefarious reasons we have to draw the line. Yes, the people of SSC have the right to decide their own affairs but they should be not be exploited by people with bad intentions. The Lascanod uprising was planned out of Ethiopia with the direction SSC politicians close to Farmaajo. Puntland itself was deemed to be the vessel for the project.

Pay attention to Gubbet's sophisticated breakdown on how to pave the way for SSC project with respect to Galmudug's objections. Why Gubbet's(a Merehan from Caabudwaaq) who is supposed to be loyal to Galmudug would want to destroy Galmudug in order to have SSC succeed. This is what a total wrecking ball means: a misguided and wildly destructive political instincts that leaves everything in its wake in ruins. From Barre to Farmaajo. I am extremely surprised that Puntland chose this path.


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[Gubbet]

Goodwill shown is expected in return for the continuence of goodwill. Selfishness resulting from Goodwill leads to the imposition of QUID PRO QUO, at best, and LEX TALIONIS, at worst.

I described the available options.

Your side is with the choice.

This is how mutually beneficial relationships self-police. You are describing manipulative predation.

Galmudug is in BREACH of the rules. It has been shown good will by not standing in front of it.

You are not ENTITLED to that goodwill. That goodwill is CONDITIONAL.

[Khalid Ali]

It can’t be a state because sool and sanaag are part of somaliland second even if u want to have the qurjiile districts to be a state it won’t be enough it will only be two districts of sool with one shared with fiqishini

[original dervish]

We will carve out our SSC state with our bare hands.
Nobody has a veto over our right to self determination.
We don't give a flying fig about southern politics......we are a unique region and people, with a long documented history. We even had our own state long before there ever was a Somalia.

[Nolol cusub]

We will carve out our SSC state with our bare hands.
Nobody has a veto over our right to self determination.
We don't give a flying fig about southern politics......we are a unique region and people, with a long documented history. We even had our own state long before there ever was a Somalia.

May be. This is what discredits your claim. The clown in the middle is a co-conspirator in Lascanod rebellion. He is literally standing next to the leader of Lascanod rebellion.




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[LaY-D_LicK]

No they shouldn't their trash

[Gubbet]

We will carve out our SSC state with our bare hands.
Nobody has a veto over our right to self determination.
We don't give a flying fig about southern politics......we are a unique region and people, with a long documented history. We even had our own state long before there ever was a Somalia.

May be. This is what discredits your claim. The clown in the middle is a co-conspirator in Lascanod rebellion. He is literally standing next to the leader of Lascanod rebellion.




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A newly elect President visited by his maternal uncle in the week of his inauguration?

You will be bitter your whole life if that's what you are concerned about.