Fmr SNM official "Las Anod mobilized Darod with 'human resource' unmatched in Somalis; Muse actions = Hargeisa warzone."

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Fmr SNM official "Las Anod mobilized Darod with 'human resource' unmatched in Somalis; Muse actions = Hargeisa warzone."

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Fmr SNM official Jama Shabel says issue is no longer about "Las Anod," but "Hargeisa." He says Darod has been mobilized because of "perception" Muuse will attempt to "conquer" Las Anod something no Darod will allow. He says Muuse Biixi has terribly contributed to the situation before us and if he engages the Darod who have come to the aid of their brothers with even many more yet unarrived---forget Las Anod and forget even the eastern Isaaq boundary but that "Hargeisa" itself will become the battle zone. He says 1.) He advised Muse to NOT engage as long as they are in Las Anod or "Darod" territory and 2 ) Resign in the interest of Somaliland, of Isaaq, and of Somali peace.


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He will find himself fighting against cagdheer when the game starts in hawd and reserve area where he is from. Isaaq will all fight against dooros no matter what , any one who tries to escape the war Will be dragged into it. We will pull the trigger in sanaag, faafan , koonfur every where.

Daarodaw waxba yaanay rajo beena idin gelin nimankan muuse xilka Ka qaaday. Arimaha dhulbahante isaaq anaka oo habarjeclo ahba uga wakiila. Wixi la dilayo iyo wixii la daynayaba anakaa qorshayna fulinana. Intaanay habar yoonis ceerigaabo idinku xasuuqin iskaga guura ceerigaabo district.
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The problem is you are ignorant, with limited experience outside of your village and people, so you don't really comprehend the implications of what is afoot. I would listen to Jama Shabeel if I were you. In fact, I would only listen to men within the Somaliland political system who have shown the courage and independence to disagree with Muuse even before Las Anood. They are the only ones you can expect to tell you the truth. Everyone else around Muuse is a sycophant because those are the only ones a man of Muuse's disposition can tolerate and sycophants wouldn't tell Muuse he is on "fire" if they thought he would be too angry. Listen to Shabel.
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Re: Fmr SNM official "Las Anod mobilized Darod with 'human resource' unmatched in Somalis; Muse actions = Hargeisa warzo

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There are many iidoor, politicians, veterans, elders, imams, personalities whom have spoken out against the war.

There have been numerous incidents over the last 30 years where clan, groups, parties have challenged sl authority.

Every sl president has had to face some sort of political crisis. The standard modus operandi was to have a show of force, flash the cash, give positions/ contracts and generally ignore the rebellious group. This had the effect of undercutting the troublemakers and denying them mass support.

Why Muuse Bixi decided to launch a full scale genocide is perplexing. I believe there are numerous factors. Bixi was unpopular, facing extension crisis, hydrocarbon resources required by EU etc.

The net result is that Dhulbahante, whom were 50/50 about sl are now 100% against sl.
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There are many iidoor, politicians, veterans, elders, imams, personalities whom have spoken out against the war.

There have been numerous incidents over the last 30 years where clan, groups, parties have challenged sl authority.

Every sl president has had to face some sort of political crisis. The standard modus operandi was to have a show of force, flash the cash, give positions/ contracts and generally ignore the rebellious group. This had the effect of undercutting the troublemakers and denying them mass support.

Why Muuse Bixi decided to launch a full scale genocide is perplexing. I believe there are numerous factors. Bixi was unpopular, facing extension crisis, hydrocarbon resources required by EU etc.

The net result is that Dhulbahante, whom were 50/50 about sl are now 100% against sl.
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Re: Fmr SNM official "Las Anod mobilized Darod with 'human resource' unmatched in Somalis; Muse actions = Hargeisa warzo

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It's true TheYusef is an ignorant fellow.
You can tell by most of his comments he has very little understanding of politics. Not that stopped any Somali pursuing a career in politics.

TheYusef.......Next time you get into your car......examine the gears. You will notice the car has a reverse gear for changing direction.

Tyrant Bixi needs to change direction immediately.
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Muuse is an angry, violence-prone warlord. Really that's exactly what he is.

He was allowed to get away with what they did to Garxajis it having been "domestic violence" where people outside the unit tend to not get involved.

I don't think that walord even thought Dhulbahante had any relationship outside of "him" as the classic abuser likes to imagine.

He just got the first realistic slap in the face for a very long time.
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Re: Fmr SNM official "Las Anod mobilized Darod with 'human resource' unmatched in Somalis; Muse actions = Hargeisa warzo

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Clearly he miscalculated........or he was given assurances from PL and HSM, that they would not intervene politically and militarily.

The Dhulbahante have fallen back on the traditional tribal alliances.......Me and my brothers against the world.

Furthermore, Bixi believed that sl forces were a lot stronger than what they actually were.

A lot of the snet Nigg as were confident of a swift victory.

As Mike Tyson once said......."everyone has a plan until I punch them in the face"
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This issue was never about Muse and it will never be about Muse. His issues are internal which are a easily fixed. What can't be fixed is a disease called faqash. This is what the majority residents of las anood are suffering from. The faqash disease is very similar to the HIV virus in that it takes over the host mental capacity to see personal interests. The only way this can be treated is either termination or re
education. Faqash is the reason somali has failed, it is the reason why you want Somaliland to fail. You can all act like you are not suffering from it but you only fooling yourself.

As for Darod you will in time turn us from a peaceful civil people to a more war like tribe. You will have a replica scenario of what you have with all your neighbours down south. That will mean you have two hostile fronts; Hawiye, Isaaq, two large nations; Ethiopia and Kenya. What will your future be like with all these adversaries. Let's admit the truth everyone has a problems with Darod. What I want to know is when the Farmaajo neo faqash started this campaign, what was the end goal. That Somaliland would just leave las anood like Riyaale did, didn't someone tell these guys Muse dont play those games, or is it to find a issue that unites Darod for Farmaajo's re election.

What is your end goal.

SSC will never come to fruition as a state so that a non starter. You will not take my lands and what left is very little. SOOL SANAAG and TOGDHEER. You are a minority and even with or without Somaliland you would not be allowed.

So tell me what is the end goal. If you want to take my land you will have to do it by force and commit a genocide. Clealy you had it planned so lets not cry and scream all over the world. May the best man win.


Jumma Mubarik..
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Gubbet wrote: Fri Mar 03, 2023 7:35 am The problem is you are ignorant, with limited experience outside of your village and people, so you don't really comprehend the implications of what is afoot. I would listen to Jama Shabeel if I were you. In fact, I would only listen to men within the Somaliland political system who have shown the courage and independence to disagree with Muuse even before Las Anood. They are the only ones you can expect to tell you the truth. Everyone else around Muuse is a sycophant because those are the only ones a man of Muuse's disposition can tolerate and sycophants wouldn't tell Muuse he is on "fire" if they thought he would be too angry. Listen to Shabel.
You listen to what's music to your ears. This has nothing to do with muse , it happened to silanyo , egal , rayaale , your folks have always been working against somaliland existence. Any isaaq who blames muuse biixi for what's going on in laascaanood is with the enemies. Muse doesn't even need other Isaaqs , we Will do the job as a habarjeclo and wipe out the enemies.
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original dervish wrote: Fri Mar 03, 2023 7:54 am
Every sl president has had to face some sort of political crisis. The standard modus operandi was to have a show of force, flash the cash, give positions/ contracts and generally ignore the rebellious group. This had the effect of undercutting the troublemakers and denying them mass support.

Why Muuse Bixi decided to launch a full scale genocide is perplexing. I believe there are numerous factors. Bixi was unpopular, facing extension crisis, hydrocarbon resources required by EU etc.

The net result is that Dhulbahante, whom were 50/50 about sl are now 100% against sl.
That era is over , forget about anything else , we won't even pay the salaries of your health workers. Because they don't treat our forces. We will kick out any dhulbahante that even tries to express his opinion. We have no intention of keeping you in the system at all. At the same time we won't let you go free . You acted crazy let's pretend that we are all crazy. Muse is definitely mad.
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The first dhulbahante politician we are targeting is cabdirasaq khaliif. We will remove him from parliament. And we put our own habarjeclo guy in his place.
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Skywalker........thanks for the laughs man.
The funniest aspect of what you spewed online is that you really believe in that iidoor nazi stuff.

We are defending ourselves valiantly, in the information sphere as well as militarily.

SSC is already known to everyone.......no need to revisit here.

We will continue resisting.......we will never surrender.
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Re: Fmr SNM official "Las Anod mobilized Darod with 'human resource' unmatched in Somalis; Muse actions = Hargeisa warzo

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To be honest with you something that I can say I have been very ignorant about is the extent to which HJ-Dh situation mirrors HG-MX in Mudug. I mean I have known about Cayn or Kalshaale, but this situation and the perspective shared by HJ really has opened my eyes to a circumstance I underestimated about old Togdheer group and the Nugaal Valley desire.

So in the MX - HG situation I can tell you we don't "countenance" HG mumbling.

We respond with serious aggression because that is literally what it deserves.

You cannot "talk" with someone who wants your house, your wells, and your historical grazing.

You carry a shotgun and you turn into Wagardhac with Sacad, Rer Siyaad Hussein with Saleebaan or my Rer Siyaad with Cayr.

It seems like Dhulbahante's "home" is what is really coveted and there might have even been a taking advantage of "Somaliland" implication to encroach upon the Nugaal homeland and in fact this may be the real reason why a community within Isaaq seems to have taken this completely in a different direction than even the pro-Somaliland Isaaq.

There is nothing more INTOLERABLE than Skywalker's tone because I recognize the predatory manipulation exactly for what it is having seen it a million times from HG.

This guy is the one ATTACKING Las Caanood. He attacked Buuhoodle. He caused Kalshaale. He encroached upon Dhulbahante and is on Caynaba rather than Dhulbahante on Baligubadle.

Yet HE is the "victim" in his head. He is the one under "threat." He is the one demonizing "Darod" who haven't done a single thing to him in this context whereas he is even implicated in "Isaaq" shelling of Laascaanood at this moment.

Have you ever seen the bully crying foul?

Dhulbahante, I apologize myself to you for my Mother Thereas bullshit about niceties because I would not say that to anybody facing what we faced with HG. I would tell them to go "eff' themselves with their stupid advice because there is no COUNTENANCING someone coveting your home and your equity.

Dhulbahante, Cayr were in Ribadle in Shilaabo between 1991- 2018. We are sitting outside Matabaan in Hiiraan today.

Sacad and Saleebaan were in Dacdheer and Kaxandhaale in Geladi zone between 1991-2015. We built a road checkpoint called "Higlowanan 5 km outside "Gelinsoor town" just last month.

Not only did we make them "stop," but we rolled back and rolled back and rolled back until our border is today pre civil war.

Dhulbahante, hawl aan indha laga leexin karin baa idin hortaal. God speed!

And having very good experience responding to this matter, we have a lot of advice for you which starts with not-mincing any "words."
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This is getting really ugly. The implications and what's afoot seem to be lost on the Somaliland gov. If Muuse Biixi and co genuinely care for Somaliland, they should take a step back and convene with the cooler heads of tradition and civil society. The affair is morphing into a broader qabiil conflict.

Isaaq as a whole is about to be sucked into a fight without even seeing it coming. War nabada ha laga shaqeeyo nacalaa shaydaanka ku yaal. Koonfur anagoo rajo nooga yara muuqatay ayeey waqooyi ka qaraxday.
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