The Garaads should move aside; let Abdi Madoobe release the Kraken.

[Gubbet]

In my estimation, why didn't the US/Ethiopians interfere and try to stop Muuse over 25 days?

Only when he was repulsed, lost control of all main corridors, became cut off in Goojacade, and reinforcement arrived for SSC did they interfere...

...because of concern for Sland strategic military edge being eroded.

That's their business---Muuse has now reneged on the spirit of de-escalation through today's attack.

Garads should step aside and let the battle commanders lead the fight.

Every single piece of weaponry on SSC territory not in SSC hands or allies "hala furto!" Every base, every check point, every hold. Furta hubka!

Muuse does not have any capacity in him for anything other than clear defeat.

Hala furto hubka!

[skywalker25]

You want more death and destruction you imbecile. Whose dead litter the streets of las anood. Who’s crying all over the world claiming a genocide. You’re a coward. You’ve offered zero assistance to these poor folks now you want them carrying dying. Take your own advice by storming Kismayo. You’ve been crying on this forum for god knows how long.

The international community saved Dhulbahnte. Muse can carry on this conflict till end of time.

[Gubbet]

You want more death and destruction you imbecile. Whose dead litter the streets of las anood. Who’s crying all over the world claiming a genocide. You’re a coward. You’ve offered zero assistance to these poor folks now you want them carrying dying. Take your own advice by storming Kismayo. You’ve been crying on this forum for god knows how long.

The international community saved Dhulbahnte. Muse can carry on this conflict till end of time.

You are the one attacking Las Anod!

[Gubbet]

Sky has the galls to say "who 'dead' litter the streets of Laascaanood" then has the nerve to accuse anyone of wanting "death and destruction!"

War af iyo addin miyeey is maqlaan!

[eliteSomali]

Easy for you to say since you've got no dog in the fight.
Peace is always good. isaqs should withdraw as the locals clearly do not want them there, and dhulbahante should give peace a chance.

[ReturnOfMariixmaan]

Easy for you to say since you've got no dog in the fight.
Peace is always good. isaqs should withdraw as the locals clearly do not want them there, and dhulbahante should give peace a chance.

[Gubbet]

Wallahi I have seen that guy give response after response to me since I blocked him and after reading this post of Saddam quoting him, I am glad I no longer come across his ridiculous, discombobulated inanity. "Easy for you to say...malaf malaf"---good bye with your irrelevant nonsense predicted on nothing but "responding" to me. If a bird shat, he would turn to me with "[insert nonsensical muttering]...malaf malaf"🥴

[original dervish]

Dhulbahante will go the extra mile to achieve a peaceful solution. However, we have a duty to protect our civilians and property from death and destruction.

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[Gubbet]

OD, I know Somali conflicts very, very well.

"Peace" is never established, only armistice.

My father said to me a very long time ago "if you ever hear "cidaada" fighting (our clan, i.e. MX), I don't ever want to hear you say 'ilaahayoow kala qabooji;' say only 'ilaahayoow kala bixi!'"

"Peace" is never really established in Somali conflicts, only an armstice and "armstice" can only be established by deterrence.

Only deterrence. Only

So you do everything possible to "prevent" fighting, everything thing possible (i.e. Wadaad), but once fighting starts you must be victorious in such a way there is no ambiguity about having established deterrence (i.e. Waranle).

I have said from the moment the first shell firing was ordered by Muuse that Dhulbahante must establish deterrence. Even specifically argued against Darood gurmad or interjection until there should be no mistake about the deterrence established singularly by Dhulbahante for himself.

Otherwise, remembering my father's wisdom shared with me at such a young age, a disrupted trajectory in implicating deterrence while in defense---is more deadly, costly, and debilitating long-term.

Muuse was allowed to come out of Goojacade and even allowed to drag some of his heavy weapons unmolested through SSC territory.

Since then, he has attacked.

Countless SSC lives will succumb to his aggression over a long debilitating chronic low-level state of hostilities unless a definitive "deterrence" is established now capable of birthing a real, viable armstice.

[Gubbet]

Recall;

5. Fighting a DEFENSIVE WAR is not just about victory in the "moment." That is not even more than half of the "victory." The other half is DETERRENCE. You must be victorious on the battle field in such a way to establish a deterrence for the future.

6. Some of the most emotionally invested people in the Darod story at this time with the results of the battlefields so far are responding to the strategic threat posed by Dhulbahante instituting that "DETERRENCE." I would even argue this is emotionally unpalatable and existentially threatening for some.

7. Dhulbahante has been challenged. He has spectacularly prosecuted that challenge in such a way that so far leaves no doubt about the relevance of the "deterrence" he has implicated himself in putting down.

8. THIS IS ABSOLUTELY IMPORTANT AND VITAL FOR HIM TO DO SO SINGULARLY AND INDEPENDENTLY.


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[Sbashi]

Exactly. This little ceasefire is bad for SSC military goals. I have no idea why the garaads didn't demand 24 hours or 48 hours for muuse biixi to leave or resume fighting. It's now 4th day and goojacade is still occupied.

Muuse biixi is now conscripting thousands to train them for a month or two and send them to laascaanood. He took away damaged artillery to repair, he's been given time to regroup, recall commanders and send new commanders to replace. He's been given time to resolve issues within somaliland military and restablish the broken chain of command. As you mentioned, they had goojacade cut off and about to surrender, they've been stopped when total victory was in sight. All military advantages are being eroded.

[Gubbet]

Sbashi-

I have told Yusuf before and I will say it now, I imagine there will be 3 phases to this conflict barring any some providential interjection arresting Muuse's desire for conflict;

1. First phase ended---SSC will repulse Muuse
2. Second phase will be what Muuse is preparing now--SSC will break Muuse
3. Third phase will be how far SSC advances (if they will stop at Oog, if they will implicate hostilities in northern Buuhoodle district or Caynaba district, etc)---SSC will either be humbled if they go beyond their clan territory or wisely ascendent if they stop at their own clan boundary

Muuse hubkiisa hada waa in la furto inta taal SSC territory. Trust me, they have to do it now.