Our 18th and 19th centuries leader Uleex Faarax and exchanging poetry with Raage Ugaas

[sahal80]

This is for informative purposes not for clan bashing and off topics



"INTA UU ULEEX FAARAX NOOLYAHAY IYO NIMANKA REER IIDLE ISAAQAAS HA JOOGTEE INTII HARO OGAADEENA NINKII GEEL ARDAA U DHIG LAHOOW KUU AHAAN MEEYSO. RAAGE UGAAS.




This is an interesting history of Hawadle when the majority of them were stationed south of Shilaabo in 18th century there was a constant conflict with Ugaadeen and by late that century they began to spread in the mountains of eastern Hiiraan due to its abundance of rain and water this led to a decrease in the numbers of the clan in Ceelgaabta but our leader Uleex Faarax remained behind near ceelka Shilaabo after the migration of majority of the clan to Hiiraan still at war with OG and some times reaching out to them for peace. This is why i like OG wax kaste oo na dhexmarey we had more shared history with them specially as Cabdi Yuusuf Hawadle .

The maps have changed but still we have direct border with Bahgari OG at Kudur-Higlooley south of Shilaabo we had border with Makaahiil too before at ceelka Shilaabo . GALAYAX HA DHINTEE GEELII MA KACABAY CEELKA SHILAABO.



Travelling through our border with Bahgari OG. Its called dhulka qaaxada the hinterland of the feerfeer district not the HG side east of Shilaabo.

[MandalorianDuulaya]

Ulaax Faraax heard alot of the man but what is also interesting is that reer iidle despite being a Sub-sub-clan have produced alot of legends. Also happen to be natural Ogaden worst nightmare. Abdi Usman and Faraax Kuubedleey comes to mind. May Allah forgive Faraax Kuubedleey he was little bit over the top.

In my opinion Reer iidle might actully be the most intellectually potent sub-sub tribe in all of Somalia. They masterminded USC, the fall of former gov't and everything in between. Including the fall of Caydiid. For the last 60 odd years all the happenings in the country

[sahal80]

Ulaax Faraax heard alot of the man but what is also interesting is that reer iidle despite being a Sub-sub-clan have produced alot of legends. Also happen to be natural Ogaden nightmare. Abdi Usman and Faraax Kuubedleey comes to mind. May Allah forgive Faraax Kuubedleey he was little bit over the top.

In my opinion Reer iidle might actully be the most intellectually potent sub-sub tribe in all of Somalia. They masterminded USC, the fall of former gov't and everything in between. Including the fall of Caydiid. For the last 60 odd years all the happenings in the country

Interesting. Farah Gubadleys mother and wife was OG and before the USC enter Baladweyne he asked ina Sayid who was the SNA commander in Hiiraan to get out of it without a fight because he could not fight his uncles. Ina sayid is the grandson of Sayid Mohamed last time i heard about him he was JL's Daraawiish commander 10 years ago . We need to move on now Cagjar and DDS are our biggest ally in the war against Khawaarijta i like to see direct highway from feefeer to Shilaabo for trade with Ethiopia, PL and SL.

[MandalorianDuulaya]

Ulaax Faraax heard alot of the man but what is also interesting is that reer iidle despite being a Sub-sub-clan have produced alot of legends. Also happen to be natural Ogaden nightmare. Abdi Usman and Faraax Kuubedleey comes to mind. May Allah forgive Faraax Kuubedleey he was little bit over the top.

In my opinion Reer iidle might actully be the most intellectually potent sub-sub tribe in all of Somalia. They masterminded USC, the fall of former gov't and everything in between. Including the fall of Caydiid. For the last 60 odd years all the happenings in the country

Interesting. Farah Gubadleys mother and wife was OG and before the USC enter Baladweyne he asked ina Sayid who was the SNA commander in Hiiraan to get out of it without a fight because he could not fight his uncles. Ina sayid is the grandson of Sayid Mohamed last time i heard about him he was JL's Daraawiish commander 10 years ago . We need to move on now Cagjar and DDS are our biggest ally in the war against Khawaarijta i like to see direct highway from feefeer to Shilaabo for trade with Ethiopia, PL and SL.

The same here.. My families mother side is OG, Bahgari. Dadkaasi waa tool.

By Allah sooner or later we will join their war in Ethiopia we first need to fix couple of things in Somalia. One-way ticket of ethiopia conquest is my only dream and Ogaden happen to be there hence our interests converge

[sahal80]

Ulaax Faraax heard alot of the man but what is also interesting is that reer iidle despite being a Sub-sub-clan have produced alot of legends. Also happen to be natural Ogaden nightmare. Abdi Usman and Faraax Kuubedleey comes to mind. May Allah forgive Faraax Kuubedleey he was little bit over the top.

In my opinion Reer iidle might actully be the most intellectually potent sub-sub tribe in all of Somalia. They masterminded USC, the fall of former gov't and everything in between. Including the fall of Caydiid. For the last 60 odd years all the happenings in the country

Interesting. Farah Gubadleys mother and wife was OG and before the USC enter Baladweyne he asked ina Sayid who was the SNA commander in Hiiraan to get out of it without a fight because he could not fight his uncles. Ina sayid is the grandson of Sayid Mohamed last time i heard about him he was JL's Daraawiish commander 10 years ago . We need to move on now Cagjar and DDS are our biggest ally in the war against Khawaarijta i like to see direct highway from feefeer to Shilaabo for trade with Ethiopia, PL and SL.

The same here.. My families mother side is OG, Bahgari. Dadkaasi waa tool.

By Allah sooner or later we will join their war in Ethiopia we first need to fix couple of things in Somalia. One-way ticket of ethiopia conquest is my only dream and Ogaden happen to be there hence our interests converge

Dhuubo the mother of Raage Ugaas warfaa was Reer Ugaas Hawadle. Ugaaska ayaa bixiyay that shows our two Sultanate friendship.

[Gubbet]

Ah, this must be what Sad Sayyid was talking about.

Well, in that case---see the point about correcting misinformation.

https://www.somalinet.com/forums/viewto ... 6#p5045018

I don't care about what Sahal is writing about neighboring HG in Shilaabo? He is not even "in" Shilabo? Sahal asked me to leave him alone and I obliged and asked him for forgiveness to which he responded graciously. That's it. It doesn't mean I am then censored and cannot talk about being anti-HAG as a political philosophy or that he cannot talk about being pro-HAG as a political philosophy.

However, it is incumbent upon you to "correct" misinformation.

There is no Hawadle in Shilabo or really even any of the Hiiraan Hawiye clans. There is only really "Ciyoow" of Ayaanle Cayr from Galgaduud in Lababar having gotten there first because they were "allowed" to graze with Reer Siyaad under terms of "magangalyo" agreement (not necessarily "clients" but this was following Dabodheer famine in the 70's when Ciyoow were almost decimated and Reer Siyaad specifically gave them "humanitarian" oriented wide access to any of their grazing territory) when Menguste and the 1982 harrying of Marehan specifically took place in Ceelgaab. Really btw everyone in the entire landscape relaxed their rules for them, they just chose Reer Siyaad as Ayaanle has had a mind boggling love/hate relationship with us since time immemorial.

But in any case when the Marehan vs Menguste/Kulmis war begin starting 1979 to climax in 1982, they were left alone by both sides and through providential luck being right place at right time have been in Lababar ever since

It is really quite an extraordinary occurrence of chance.

Until recently of course when Marehan has started looking back at "all" his historical land.

But in any case, Ciyoow, Ayaanle, and really ALL "Non-Darod" are in about 5% of Shilabo.

Marehan is today singularly the largest community of Shilabo being in over 2/3 of the land.

Bah Geri are in about 15-20% and Ismaaciil Gumcadle in about 5%.

The rest of the land +-5% is an "active warzone" in the old Ceel Habreed grounds where Marehan has had a strict "reconquista" mindset demolishing more than a dozen hamlets and birkas (baraago) and really having pushed back the Matabaan community and any other non-Darod groups from Hiiraan who have been utilizing it.

Hawadle, Aw-Hassan, Udedjeen and the rest from Hiiraan are in "Shabelle" State which is where Ferfer kabele comes under part of "Gode" woreda.

They are not in Shilaabo.



We need to learn our geography sxb.

Shilaabo which is today back to being 2/3 under Marehan control, and especially historical Shilaabo valley which was 100% Marehan territory until the 1933 Italo-Abysinnian war---seems to be an extremely misunderstood term.

Historically Shilaabo territory ends at the "road" between Shilabo town today that goes into Somalia.

What is between that road and Khelaafo is history "Dobaweyn" or Faf territory.

It is not Shilaabo. Shilaabo is Marehan land overwhelmingly even today.

And it had nothing to do with Ogaadeen either and especially with people on the Shabelle River or whatever had to do between them.

This term "Shilaabo" needs to be understood properly.

[Gubbet]

The maps have changed but still we have direct border with Bahgari OG at Kudur-Higlooley south of Shilaabo we had border with Makaahiil too before at ceelka Shilaabo . GALAYAX HA DHINTEE GEELII MA KACABAY CEELKA SHILAABO.

The only Galayax I know is also one of the most famous names of Marehan and in Shilaabo---namely the great Cabdi Aw-Muxumud aka CABDI GALAYAX, warrior and poet extraordinare whom even Guhad here called one of his topic picks of most important Somali poets in history.
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His piece Geelaa Hiraab laga dhacoo hogorka waa wayn leh, Oo Uunkii Qolodii hoshaba lagu hor maalayo is one of the top 3 poems in Mudug history known by Dir iyo Daarood iyo Hawiye alike.

He was MX/Rer Diini/Rer Warsame

I wonder if there is another Galayax synonymous with Shilaabo.

[sahal80]

Voltage

I did not say that Hawadle lives in Shilaabo but historically our camels used to drink from the well of Shilaabo and Galayax the son of Uleex Faarax am talking about was killed in the well of Shilaabo by Ogaaden. Now our border with Bahgari is right after the last village in Feefeer district wich is called Kudur and they are in Gadhcilaan. Till Gadhcilaan, Our eastern border is HG not MX that why i called them being in east of Shilaabo up to Garasle and us in south of Shilaabo up Gadhcilaan Higooley so pls don't hijack my thread wth your maps its about Hawadle and OG

Lastly Reerow hassan are scattered between feerfeer and Mustahil wich is different direction and Udjeen are too in different direction in baarmagoog at our border with HG.
Thank you.


Here is our villages to gadhcilaan Higlooley Shilaabo bahgari side

Farjano, fadhiyare, doonka, galhaaroole Kudur after kudur gadhcilaan, higlooey shilaabo.

[Gubbet]

Awoowe, this land is my heritage and even within Marehan specifically as a Reer Mudug Reer Siyaad, I am among those implicated disproportionately in what it means and what is going on there. Specifically there is a work order underway affecting me in personally. Hay i xodxodin, online or on the ground, ninka Shilaabo soo hadal qaado and us dagaal baa naga dhaxeeya and we have our guns unlocked and daily firing on Ogaadeen iyo Hawiyaba. Hal mar baan idhi Beled-Weyne, niman Sade ah baa mar ag maray and you know how you attacked me and though I do not wish to bring that memory back, any mention of Shilaabo will elicit the same growl from me as Beled-Weyne did you. Odayaashaas u sheeg dhoobaweyn iyo khelaafo iyo shabelle baa lagu qalday Shilaabo since 1933. Shilaabo hadaan cidi ka maqlo walle iyo bille kama fogi saa maanta xataa 2/3 of it anigaa ku fadhiyo from Laasacaanood to Fadhigaraadle to Garasle to Axmed Gureey to Goohwayne to Booraancad to Balanbal Oomane. Shilabo unukaa leh and we have sworn to touch back every corner of it by the next 10 years inshallah.

P.S. I didn't deny you do not live in Somali Region but folks waxay isku qaldaan dhoobawayn iyo shilaabo. Remember the Ogaadeen themselves targeted the historical Marehan terminologies to try to unlink them from Marehan. Shilaabo game ku ciyaarin just like Buuro "Doh iyo Doolo" bay ku duugeen. 80 year attack baa nalagu qaaday.

[sahal80]

Waa gardarantahay sxb i border with OG in south Shilaabo not MX and i will trade with PL via North Shilaabo with Makaahiil. If ellaay says he borders with Gugundhabe and goes to their side of Baladweyne xaa iga galay aniga? Same way Shilaabo is a Shared town. Worry about HG in Garasle we are not dealing with you



I dont need to trade with PL through HG and MX only OG via Wardheer./Galaadi .
HG are now in the east of Shilaabo no border between mx and Xl now
https://www.somalispot.com/threads/a-co ... al.118977/

[Gubbet]

Is there another Garasle I am not aware of because that is the 2nd time you have mentioned HG and Garasle?

This is the Garasle of Shilaabo,



This is an actual news report of that same well known Garasle settlement in Shilaabo where the Ugas of Sade convened the community of Garasle staying with them as his people/subjects for 3 days according to the video:



1:53: "This is Garasle; we, Mareexaan, are the community here."

Is there another Garasle of Shilaabo I am not aware of?

And understand---I am not talking about random mix of random photos from random anywhere ala TikTok video style with random music from "Lababar Media" on Facebook who reads these discussions and youngishly responds reactionarily.

It is not even a "shared" settlement. Marehan do not "share" a settlement with any group in centeal plateau. They don't share Caabudwaaq town, or Balanbale town or Dhabad or Saaxo ..or Garasle. You would even laughingly get those Ogaden kids in thos topics say "we share Laasacaaano and Fadhigaraadle"----no, no one lives with Marehan in Fadhigaraadle and Laasacaano. No one there or Garasle or Goohwayne or Axmed Gureey to Xassan Cawl! And Marehan does not live in Caleen with Ogaadeen or Lababaar with Hawiye.

Yes, I read those Somalispot discussions and yes, I know, through Cow, you have been made completely aware that Garasle is a Marehan settlement---only.

The fact that you even have the nerves to say what you said and 2X tells me--dhibaato badanoo hor leh baa adigu iyo aniga nagu soo socoto halkagan. Wagareey Wagar!

And finally, once again,

HG are now in the east of Shilaabo no border between mx and Xl now

You don't even live in Shilaabo and HW altogether are in less than 5% of Shilaabo. So if you neighbor each other you neighbor each other in land that doesn't have anything to do with Shilaabo!

P.S. Who you trade with is your business. Good luck.

[Sbashi]

Is there another Garasle I am not aware of because that is the 2nd time you have mentioned HG and Garasle?

This is the Garasle of Shilaabo,



This is an actual news report of that same well known Garasle settlement in Shilaabo where the Ugas of Sade convened the community of Garasle staying with them as his people/subjects for 3 days according to the video:



1:53: "This is Garasle; we, Mareexaan, are the community here."

Is there another Garasle of Shilaabo I am not aware of?

And understand---I am not talking about random mix of random photos from random anywhere ala TikTok video style with random music from "Lababar Media" on Facebook who reads these discussions and youngishly responds reactionarily.

It is not even a "shared" settlement. Marehan do not "share" a settlement with any group in centeal plateau. They don't share Caabudwaaq town, or Balanbale town or Dhabad or Saaxo ..or Garasle. You would even laughingly get those Ogaden kids in thos topics say "we share Laasacaaano and Fadhigaraadle"----no, no one lives with Marehan in Fadhigaraadle and Laasacaano. No one there or Garasle or Goohwayne or Axmed Gureey to Xassan Cawl! And Marehan does not live in Caleen with Ogaadeen or Lababaar with Hawiye.

Yes, I read those Somalispot discussions and yes, I know, through Cow, you have been made completely aware that Garasle is a Marehan settlement---only.

The fact that you even have the nerves to say what you said and 2X tells me--dhibaato badanoo hor leh baa adigu iyo aniga nagu soo socoto halkagan. Wagareey Wagar!

And finally, once again,

HG are now in the east of Shilaabo no border between mx and Xl now

You don't even live in Shilaabo and HW altogether are in less than 5% of Shilaabo. So if you neighbor each other you neighbor each other in land that doesn't have anything to do with Shilaabo!

P.S. Who you trade with is your business. Good luck.

Yes, there is. It's in lababaar. HG have a habit of naming tuulos after other people's towns. Sacad do this with mj, and cayr do this with mx. Just search garasle lababaar on facebook and you'd see it's a totally different garasle. It's closer to the hiraan border and ismadhaqo which you have mentioned before.

[Gubbet]

Yes, there is. It's in lababaar. HG have a habit of naming tuulos after other people's towns. Sacad do this with mj, and cayr do this with mx. Just search garasle lababaar on facebook and you'd see it's a totally different garasle. It's closer to the hiraan border and ismadhaqo which you have mentioned before.

Waa yaab. So the Hiiraan-Mataban border has a "Garasle" renaming somewhere in the 5% of Shilaabo they are in and this gentlemen is purposely goading me knowing all of this?

"Barar" on the first map of Shilaabo I posted they renamed "Biyocade" after the Marehan Bio Ado. They high jacked Cali Xassan to make a new "Tuulo Cali Xassan", they plagiarized the Marehan Qayder above Ceel Nuur north of Balanbale to rename a pit stop "Qeydar," they have also done the same to Booraancad, Haraale, and Shillan renaming new places Booraancadka, Haraalayaal, and Shillinta. They have even taken Goronyohor to make a new "Jora Jowhar" near Guriceel spelled that way because the Somali person behind the renaming didn't understand what the Italian "Goragiohar" meant. In Italian the "y" is written with silen g/j so old styles wrote "Goragiohar" for the Somali "GORO-YO-HOR ." The Guriceelians thought it meant "GORA-JOWHAR." So the case with the Balanbale famous locality Goronyohor (later English maps Garanio Hor/Garanio Horre) having a misspelled but intriguingly understandable "double" near Guriceel identifies a victim of "identity theft" with the renaming fail of "Jora Jowhar" near Guriceel.

Wallahi waa mucjiso!

If I can't have Place X, rename my backyard Place X! Naga Cilmi badanaa.

[Sbashi]

Yes, there is. It's in lababaar. HG have a habit of naming tuulos after other people's towns. Sacad do this with mj, and cayr do this with mx. Just search garasle lababaar on facebook and you'd see it's a totally different garasle. It's closer to the hiraan border and ismadhaqo which you have mentioned before.

Waa yaab. So the Hiiraan-Mataban border has a "Garasle" renaming somewhere in the 5% of Shilaabo they are in and this gentlemen is purposely goading me knowing all of this?

"Barar" on the first map of Shilaabo I posted they renamed "Biyocade" after the Marehan Bio Ado. They high jacked Cali Xassan to make a new "Tuulo Cali Xassan", they plagiarized the Marehan Qayder above Ceel Nuur north of Balanbale to rename a pit stop "Qeydar," they have also done the same to Booraancad, Haraale, and Shillan renaming new places Booraancadka, Haraalayaal, and Shillinta. They have even taken Goronyohor to make a new "Jora Jowhar" near Guriceel spelled that way because the Somali person behind the renaming didn't understand what the Italian "Goragiohar" meant. In Italian the "y" is written with silen g/j so old styles wrote "Goragiohar" for the Somali "GORO-YO-HOR ." The Guriceelians thought it meant "GORA-JOWHAR." So the case with the Balanbale famous locality Goronyohor (later English maps Garanio Hor/Garanio Horre) having a misspelled but intriguingly understandable "double" near Guriceel identifies a victim of "identity theft" with the renaming fail of "Jora Jowhar" near Guriceel.

Wallahi waa mucjiso!

If I can't have Place X, rename my backyard Place X! Naga Cilmi badanaa.

A serious issue. This means they peddle fake news and maps online claiming the real garasle. Which sahal is doing right now. Even with video evidence showing garasle is mx they still claim it because they also have video evidence of their "garasle". Or if both are claiming it, it must be "disputed". Just like daabjr alasow famous visit to gaxandhaale. I reread that topic of yours where you posted about the un scams . In the beginning I didn't find it serious, thought it was funny how these grief stricken folks were acting. But now I realize it's serious and a dirty strategy that needs to be stopped. Which is why I appreciate how good the mx solution was. Now we should see more mainstream mx news mentioning this issue.

[Kees70]

Is there another Garasle I am not aware of because that is the 2nd time you have mentioned HG and Garasle?

This is the Garasle of Shilaabo,



This is an actual news report of that same well known Garasle settlement in Shilaabo where the Ugas of Sade convened the community of Garasle staying with them as his people/subjects for 3 days according to the video:



1:53: "This is Garasle; we, Mareexaan, are the community here."

Is there another Garasle of Shilaabo I am not aware of?

And understand---I am not talking about random mix of random photos from random anywhere ala TikTok video style with random music from "Lababar Media" on Facebook who reads these discussions and youngishly responds reactionarily.

It is not even a "shared" settlement. Marehan do not "share" a settlement with any group in centeal plateau. They don't share Caabudwaaq town, or Balanbale town or Dhabad or Saaxo ..or Garasle. You would even laughingly get those Ogaden kids in thos topics say "we share Laasacaaano and Fadhigaraadle"----no, no one lives with Marehan in Fadhigaraadle and Laasacaano. No one there or Garasle or Goohwayne or Axmed Gureey to Xassan Cawl! And Marehan does not live in Caleen with Ogaadeen or Lababaar with Hawiye.

Yes, I read those Somalispot discussions and yes, I know, through Cow, you have been made completely aware that Garasle is a Marehan settlement---only.

The fact that you even have the nerves to say what you said and 2X tells me--dhibaato badanoo hor leh baa adigu iyo aniga nagu soo socoto halkagan. Wagareey Wagar!

And finally, once again,

HG are now in the east of Shilaabo no border between mx and Xl now

You don't even live in Shilaabo and HW altogether are in less than 5% of Shilaabo. So if you neighbor each other you neighbor each other in land that doesn't have anything to do with Shilaabo!

P.S. Who you trade with is your business. Good luck.

Yes, there is. It's in lababaar. HG have a habit of naming tuulos after other people's towns. Sacad do this with mj, and cayr do this with mx. Just search garasle lababaar on facebook and you'd see it's a totally different garasle. It's closer to the hiraan border and ismadhaqo which you have mentioned before.

habit kulaha, we all know this excuse is an darood cope after they lost a vast lands to HGs.

Garasle belongs to Habar gidirs