Fiqishini garaad turned against SSC

[theyuusuf143]

War is business guys , this guy was against somaliland because he was not recognised by somaliland. Know he is empowered by somaliland. And he is brought to challenge the other pro SSC fiqishini sultan. Gues who is going to win. Of course the pro somaliland one. Because fiqishini have no rights in puntland. And SSC is just a condom of puntland. This war is not going to finish any time soon.

[LaY-D_LicK]

Fiqishini are Somalilanders

[original dervish]

The iidoors are a day late and a Dollar short in the propaganda war.

Our propaganda was aimed at the international community. We successfully shaped the narrative to our advantage.

Now it's all about the battlefield. Who care about some Fiqishini hustler?

[theyuusuf143]

The iidoors are a day late and a Dollar short in the propaganda war.

Our propaganda was aimed at the international community. We successfully shaped the narrative to our advantage.

Now it's all about the battlefield. Who care about some Fiqishini hustler?

The entire world countries are dealing with Their own crisis, even America is under attack by the brics , Europe is dealing with the Ukraine problem. Ethiopia is getting weaker because of the civil wars , there is a tension in Kenya. What international community are you talking about ? You stupid dadkaaga meesha haku madhin , dagaalkan waxad jabtay maalintay majeerteen vlogs Ka bilaaben. Nafta dhulmahante qiimahedu wuxu marayey in dawladu dhahdo dadkii mudaharadka Ku dhintay oo dhan magtooda waa iska bixinayna. imika nafta dhulmahante qiimahedu waxay maraysa halkii ugu hoosaysay taariikh da .

[original dervish]

The international community that has cut off your begging bowlvand rejected forever your 35 year recognition project........that international community you buffoon.

[Khalid Ali]

And what makes u think we need money from the west to demolish ur skull how many have we killed the past two months. Five hundred and ur moving close of dislodging us from ur land

[original dervish]

Whatever we've lost.....you have lost more than twice that number.

You lost so many men that they had to be buried by bulldozer in mass graves.......except the Sacad Muuse. They were taken to Hargeisa.

Of course you need money and legitimacy from the west. You've been sucking up to them for decades.

We have defeated you militarily and politically.
You are like the Ukrainians.......the east has been totally lost forever.

[LaY-D_LicK]

We have lost nothing the international community you speak of are demanding recognition for Somaliland due to the instability the war caused it worked in our favour and it's not me in refugee camps thats you. You lost everything and we gained attention from the eu and un to recognise us. What have you gained nothing
It went all the way to the un security council and no mention of ssc just that recognition would help solve the insecurity

[Gubbet]

Fake News: Fiqi Shinni has a single universally recognized "Suldaan" affirmed by their wider kin of Reer Ayaanle, Cayr, and Habar Gidir.

This is an illegitimate pretender the sort of nonsense learned from British colonialism and it's "Caaqil" system of creating salaried chiefs implicated in imperialism.

[Moderately2Wise]

Fake News: Fiqi Shinni has a single universally recognized "Suldaan" affirmed by their wider kin of Reer Ayaanle, Cayr, and Habar Gidir.

This is an illegitimate pretender the sort of nonsense learned from British colonialism and it's "Caaqil" system of creating salaried chiefs implicated in imperialism.

Nowadays Garaads, Suldans and Ugaas all of them have become business venture and sometimes multiple of them claim the title while they don't have the title hence you can see conflicting stuff and many of them go out there confusing people

[theyuusuf143]

Fake News: Fiqi Shinni has a single universally recognized "Suldaan" affirmed by their wider kin of Reer Ayaanle, Cayr, and Habar Gidir.

This is an illegitimate pretender the sort of nonsense learned from British colonialism and it's "Caaqil" system of creating salaried chiefs implicated in imperialism.

We are notoriously anti dhaqan, if the elder don't follow our orders we just empower his rival. Simple and it works. Isaaq and gadabursi has no legitimate salaadiin. We corrupted all of them and they are power less. Garaad jaamac ismaaciil beriguu naga soo horjeedaay walaalkii baanu cumaamad nay , marku soo laabtayna walaalkii baanu erinay . Somaliland dhexdeeda odayal dhaqameed Ku waa kubad aanu dhankaanu doono u laadno.

Wasaarada arimahan guduhu shaqo kaleba ma qabato , odayaal bay maamusha. Kuwa dalka iyo dawlada u daacada ah , lacag , dhul iyo qandaraasba waa la siiya. Kuwa dawlada diidan sida buurmadaw na , harrasment baa lagu sameeya. Diinta iyo dhaqan kaba waa la dagaalana wixii naga soo horjeeda. Wadaadada laba qolo uunbaanu ogolnahay , suufiyaasha , iyo qolada islaaxa ee ulul amriga u niikisa. Yagana qandaraas yada timirta iyo waxbaa la siiya.

[Gubbet]

It is different Yusuf, and I revert back here to Salaried chiefs once again with the British directly implicated caaqil system.

The Isaaq Caaqil system (and their counterpart the Rahanwayn Malaaq system) were the two traditional systems that saw the most "farogelin" or "imposition" by colobial authorities, in fact even "coopted" by them.

They are not created out of a vacuum though.

We do have "diya" groups or mag groups as for example my primary diya group is "Rer Mohamed Siyaad." That's my lowest level mag group. Then the next level is Siyaad then Diini.

I haven't done a count of how many mag groups there are in MX, but using just that there are 8 mag groups in Siyaad who is 1/12 of Diini.

Obviously at the time of the British my dia group would have been 'Siyaad' so take out all the 8 groups which have developed from Siyaad and other Diini groups ans it would have just been the 12 Diini of their group.

What the British did with the Caaqil system is creat an institutional body created with the office name Caaqil which was naturally organized but politically institutionalized. [Along with the Rahanwayn Malaaq system pegged not to mag groups but Italian organizing of village units]

This had two fundamental distinctions which are sort of interrelated;

1. The Caqil was essentially a Somali chief + English Ealdorman = 'Somaliland' Alderman. Essentially, his order is "natural" but his authority is "invested." He represents you to government, but government gives him the legitimacy to 'represent' you. He is an officer of state, but he is your counsel to State

2. Conversely, he is 'implicated" within State and is 'inconsequential' outside of state. When tribal affairs are thr purview of a 'state system' the Caaqil, as an Officer of State, is a highly relevant administering agent but when tribal affairs are independent to 'statr system' the Caqil is a highly irrelevant symbolic title.

Again, the Caqil's order is natural, but his 'authority' is invested by "state."

This is different to the normal Somali traditional chief whose order is natural and his 'authority ' is invested by "society."

This is why Isaaq are very good at forming a "Guurti," but their actual elders cannot even dream of the supra-governmental power, authority, and relevance of the Dhulbahante Garaadship.

In this manner, the Dhulbahante Garaadship is more representative of the continuing Somali traditional system while the Somaliland Caaqil system is a modern creation.

The problem for Isaaq clans is they are just like other Somali clans in essence so their elder system is an absent or even disadvantaged vulnerability in such situations like this when "Xeer" needs to be implicated in the very breakdown of "state legitimacy" as Somalis are ever susceptible to.

On the other hand, it is beneficial strength that they are able to more readily and easily implicate acceptance of "state authority" in the interest of birthing modern 'state' implicated law and order.

-Two huge drawbacks are;

1. The Caaqil system can easily become puppets for nefarious political authority or agent
1. The traditional Chiefs can easily become obstacles and stumbling blocks to legitimate state authority and governance

[theyuusuf143]

-Two huge drawbacks are;

1. The Caaqil system can easily become puppets for nefarious political authority or agent
1. The traditional Chiefs can easily become obstacles and stumbling blocks to legitimate state authority and governance

Totally agree with you. That's why we introduced too many fake salaadiin to undermine the power of the traditional cheifs. Our only legitimate sultan is the president and our real representatives are the parliament . The cuqaal are still useful that's why they are paid by the government. But the introduction of the insurance system and increased number of the police force minimised their role.

Clan leaders in somaliland are all puppets , and none them have any armed militias , they can't even have their own private security. How ever they have the rights to open Their mouth widely. Dhulmahante elders didn't went through this process because of their self imposed exile. Only the jaamac siyaad garaad is groomed by somaliland .