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Birmade HSM
Posted: Thu Apr 13, 2023 3:28 pm
by AbkoowDhiblaawe
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Ramadan aan ku jirnaa walaalayal waliba the last 10 days.HSM promised before he was elected the wouldn't do revenge on NN loyalists.
Gen Biixi and General Odawaa are busy being part of the liberation efforts. Last week Taliye shub was appointed the same man that shot at HSM vehicle in 2021.
He promised to fight Al shabab. And we have seen massive results within a year.
Ilaahay hada ka cabsaneyno HSM ballantii waa fuliyay.
Re: Birmade HSM
Posted: Thu Apr 13, 2023 3:29 pm
by Gubbet
Yaahuu
Re: Birmade HSM
Posted: Thu Apr 13, 2023 3:31 pm
by AbkoowDhiblaawe
Gubbet wrote: Thu Apr 13, 2023 3:29 pmYaahuu
Yaahyy mahane wax la imow. HSM is doing everything he promised isha macalin ah.
The same Farmaajo u supported made alot of promises like finishing of shabab within 2 years.
Gubbet wallahi billahi without being biased Isha macalin ah.
Re: Birmade HSM
Posted: Thu Apr 13, 2023 3:38 pm
by Kees70
Birmade HSM Hanoolato
Re: Birmade HSM
Posted: Thu Apr 13, 2023 3:43 pm
by Gubbet
AbkoowDhiblaawe wrote: Thu Apr 13, 2023 3:31 pm
Gubbet wrote: Thu Apr 13, 2023 3:29 pmYaahuu
Yaahyy mahane wax la imow. HSM is doing everything he promised isha macalin ah.
The same Farmaajo u supported made alot of promises like finishing of shabab within 2 years.
Gubbet wallahi billahi without being biased Isha macalin ah.
I love history. History will be the final judge.
Re: Birmade HSM
Posted: Thu Apr 13, 2023 3:46 pm
by Sbashi
Abkoow I want you to be honest too. When farmaajo took the presidency in 2017 did he have such professional army? Did the soldiers receive their pay on time?
HSM got the presidency and got 10,000 professional soldiers built the last 5 years. Yet we see how difficult it is for him to liberate galgaaduud and even middle shabelle.
Farmaajo fought shabab, he didn't fight them by needlessly capturing new towns so AS can recapture them next week. He fought them by building capabilities. He fought to HOLD all land captured. Let this nonsense of farmaajo wasted 5 years die.
Taliye shub didn't shoot at HSM btw. Soldiers at checkpoints shot at teknikos that forcefully passed a checkpoint. Taliye shub just defended the soldiers on the news.
Re: Birmade HSM
Posted: Thu Apr 13, 2023 3:58 pm
by Gubbet
All of what HSM tenure is will be defined by the "Arms Embargo."
Since his inauguration, it was one created narrative after the other about finally ending the "Arms Embargo."
They spinned and spinned and spinned---and in the end the Arms Embargo was extended.
All of what HSM is involved in with is like that----a lot of spinning but when the goose gets down to lay, there is nothing laid underneath her.
Re: Birmade HSM
Posted: Thu Apr 13, 2023 4:01 pm
by AbkoowDhiblaawe
Sbashi wrote: Thu Apr 13, 2023 3:46 pm
Abkoow I want you to be honest too. When farmaajo took the presidency in 2017 did he have such professional army? Did the soldiers receive their pay on time?
HSM got the presidency and got 10,000 professional soldiers built the last 5 years. Yet we see how difficult it is for him to liberate galgaaduud and even middle shabelle.
Farmaajo fought shabab, he didn't fight them by needlessly capturing new towns so AS can recapture them next week. He fought them by building capabilities. He fought to HOLD all land captured. Let this nonsense of farmaajo wasted 5 years die.
Taliye shub didn't shoot at HSM btw. Soldiers at checkpoints shot at teknikos that forcefully passed a checkpoint. Taliye shub just defended the soldiers on the news.
I don't buy that argument bro.How many cities or districts did HSM capture between 2012-2016. Farmaajo did improve the military been alla caaye. But he flopped on the war against shabab. All the towns below was liberated under HSM'a first term.
Baraawe
Kismaayo
Buulo Mareer
Qoryooley
Kurtun wareey
wanlaweyn
Warsheekh
Cadale
Merca
Mahadaay
Xudur
Jowhar
Buulo mareer
Raage ceelle
Janaale
Diinsoor
Buulo burde
Buur Hakaba
Re: Birmade HSM
Posted: Thu Apr 13, 2023 4:01 pm
by AbkoowDhiblaawe
Gubbet wrote: Thu Apr 13, 2023 3:43 pm
AbkoowDhiblaawe wrote: Thu Apr 13, 2023 3:31 pm
Gubbet wrote: Thu Apr 13, 2023 3:29 pmYaahuu
Yaahyy mahane wax la imow. HSM is doing everything he promised isha macalin ah.
The same Farmaajo u supported made alot of promises like finishing of shabab within 2 years.
Gubbet wallahi billahi without being biased Isha macalin ah.
I love history. History will be the final judge.
Re: Birmade HSM
Posted: Thu Apr 13, 2023 4:22 pm
by Sbashi
AbkoowDhiblaawe wrote: Thu Apr 13, 2023 4:01 pm
Sbashi wrote: Thu Apr 13, 2023 3:46 pm
Abkoow I want you to be honest too. When farmaajo took the presidency in 2017 did he have such professional army? Did the soldiers receive their pay on time?
HSM got the presidency and got 10,000 professional soldiers built the last 5 years. Yet we see how difficult it is for him to liberate galgaaduud and even middle shabelle.
Farmaajo fought shabab, he didn't fight them by needlessly capturing new towns so AS can recapture them next week. He fought them by building capabilities. He fought to HOLD all land captured. Let this nonsense of farmaajo wasted 5 years die.
Taliye shub didn't shoot at HSM btw. Soldiers at checkpoints shot at teknikos that forcefully passed a checkpoint. Taliye shub just defended the soldiers on the news.
I don't buy that argument bro.How many cities or districts did HSM capture between 2012-2016. Farmaajo did improve the military been alla caaye. But he flopped on the war against shabab. All the towns below was liberated under HSM'a first term.
Baraawe
Kismaayo
Buulo Mareer
Qoryooley
Kurtun wareey
wanlaweyn
Warsheekh
Cadale
Merca
Mahadaay
Xudur
Jowhar
Buulo mareer
Raage ceelle
Janaale
Diinsoor
Buulo burde
Buur Hakaba
Yes true. However, this was back when amisom actually went out with the SNA instead of sitting in their bases.
Even now HSM unlike his first term isn't getting supported by atmis who sit in their bases. He's completely reliant on SNA plus macawiisleey. Even the soldiers farmaajo built are not enough, we need more soldiers to properly hold captured land. How many times did government troops withdraw from galcad?
I don't think even you believe farmaajo should have just foughr a war where he couldn't hold captured land without amisom. Where there's no proper sna he couldn't rely on. It would be just needlessly killing troops.
Re: Birmade HSM
Posted: Fri Apr 14, 2023 2:38 am
by AbkoowDhiblaawe
Sbashi wrote: Thu Apr 13, 2023 4:22 pm
AbkoowDhiblaawe wrote: Thu Apr 13, 2023 4:01 pm
Sbashi wrote: Thu Apr 13, 2023 3:46 pm
Abkoow I want you to be honest too. When farmaajo took the presidency in 2017 did he have such professional army? Did the soldiers receive their pay on time?
HSM got the presidency and got 10,000 professional soldiers built the last 5 years. Yet we see how difficult it is for him to liberate galgaaduud and even middle shabelle.
Farmaajo fought shabab, he didn't fight them by needlessly capturing new towns so AS can recapture them next week. He fought them by building capabilities. He fought to HOLD all land captured. Let this nonsense of farmaajo wasted 5 years die.
Taliye shub didn't shoot at HSM btw. Soldiers at checkpoints shot at teknikos that forcefully passed a checkpoint. Taliye shub just defended the soldiers on the news.
I don't buy that argument bro.How many cities or districts did HSM capture between 2012-2016. Farmaajo did improve the military been alla caaye. But he flopped on the war against shabab. All the towns below was liberated under HSM'a first term.
Baraawe
Kismaayo
Buulo Mareer
Qoryooley
Kurtun wareey
wanlaweyn
Warsheekh
Cadale
Merca
Mahadaay
Xudur
Jowhar
Buulo mareer
Raage ceelle
Janaale
Diinsoor
Buulo burde
Buur Hakaba
Yes true. However, this was back when amisom actually went out with the SNA instead of sitting in their bases.
Even now HSM unlike his first term isn't getting supported by atmis who sit in their bases. He's completely reliant on SNA plus macawiisleey. Even the soldiers farmaajo built are not enough, we need more soldiers to properly hold captured land. How many times did government troops withdraw from galcad?
I don't think even you believe farmaajo should have just foughr a war where he couldn't hold captured land without amisom. Where there's no proper sna he couldn't rely on. It would be just needlessly killing troops.
You make some valid points. However i still believe he could've atleast secured Afgooye-Xamar-Balcad triangle.
Re: Birmade HSM
Posted: Fri Apr 14, 2023 5:29 am
by GameChanger
Bay, Bakool, Gedo, Jubboyinka is completely under shabaab now that is the second pace