The creation of Banadir state - It has to be a special state with different rules

[GameChanger]

The creation of Banaadir state is basically a formality but it needs to be a special state with different rules to make it more attractive.

Shabelle hoose, Banadir, iyo North Jubba should become one state Called Banadir state but with each side having it's own economic sector and rulers. Meaning Shabelle hoose will be independent of Banadir and North Jubba will also be independent of the other two.

1. Banadir = It is own president, Mayor
2. Lower Shabelle = It's own president, mayors
3. North Jubba = It's own president, Mayors (Goodweyn, Jamamae, Jilib, Dujuma and everything 5 kilos north of Afmadow)

The only thing co-shared is the military forces of the state which will be controlled one selected by each state and they can circulate each 4 years between them as for the police forces each micro state will have their own police forces

[theyuusuf143]

if hawiye has other plans for lower shabeele and north jubba you need to consider the demographics and prepare war with the Raxanwayn +alshabaab and the daarod admin of South jubaland , all These groups Will gang up against you all at the same time . I Would suggest North jubaland should be liberated first and incorporated into the KGS . In the future the structure can be changed if it's needed.

The most important task is to liberate North jubaland before the cagdheer liberates their side of the river. This mission needs full participation of eelay and jareer macawisley , these are the indigenous people of the land you need them by your side.

[GameChanger]

if hawiye has other plans for lower shabeele and north jubba you need to consider the demographics and prepare war with the Raxanwayn +alshabaab and the daarod admin of South jubaland , all These groups Will gang up against you all at the same time . I Would suggest North jubaland should be liberated first and incorporated into the KGS . In the future the structure can be changed if it's needed.

The most important task is to liberate North jubaland before the cagdheer liberates their side of the river. This mission needs full participation of eelay and jareer macawisley , these are the indigenous people of the land you need them by your side.

No bro. You don't understand the dynamics of these areas.. There is no overlapping with Cagdheere lands. with Raxanweyne yes but very little amount. The Raxanweyn are a minority in Shabelle hoose and live on the border areas between Sh hose and bay. All the military power in shabelle hoose is HAG and the state is basically under HAG defacto. Marka you have Biimaal city, Bararwe is the same. Jamame, Jilib, and the others Dujuma and the north of Afmadow is the same case. Cagdheer settle south of Afmadow there is nothing overlapping here. Raxanweynta settle on the fringes villages bordering between Shabelle hoose and Bay. They don't have one major city in Shabelle hoose. It is Garre, Biimaal, Gaaljecel, Xawaadle, Abgaal and HG in the farmlands. Marka cadey, Jamaame is Biimaal cities, While Jilib and Goobweyn is Sheehkhal. Dujuma has Ajuuran and the Jareer is on the otherside of the Buaale there is west and east Buaale.

There will be no ganging upon anyone here. Everyone knows where he lives in this areas unless someone wants to attack Biimaal, Garre in there lands these are powerful tribes in the areas and armed to the teeth.

Who do you think is gonna attack Jamame, Jilib or Marka Cadey these are very large cities?

The south is very simple and not complicated as Sool iyo Sanaag demarcation issues

[theyuusuf143]

I think you are underestimating the number of jareer and raxanwayn in lower shabeele and mothern jubaland. I know cagdheer or daaroods has little to do with this side of jubaland. But I am sure the jareer are the majority more than any one else. Underestimating these peaple will eventually backfire the Somali faradheer.

[GameChanger]

I think you are underestimating the number of jareer and raxanwayn in lower shabeele and mothern jubaland. I know cagdheer or daaroods has little to do with this side of jubaland. But I am sure the jareer are the majority more than any one else. Underestimating these peaple will eventually backfire the Somali faradheer.

jareer waa madhibaan NOT as in midgaan but the literal word madhibaan (harmless) Besides they are insignificiant minority less then 2% in all of Somalia. You will find more Jareer bordering between Bay and Gedo including the Jubboyinka closer to Saakow and lower jubboyinka closer to the Kenyan borders and these seem to be more recent jareer the ones south of Afmadow. I guess the Ogaden and Degodiya farmers have shipped them in less then 100 years ago it is some what of an scandal and it is kept hush hush because nobody was admitting to slavery 100 years ago or keeping slaves at that period it was taboo or heck for the last 500 years it was taboo to use slaves in somalia for religious reasons while these on the outskirts of Buaale have been brought in by the Ajuuraan era for plantation works. You will also find small tiny communities in Hiraan, Jowhar and Puntland these were brought in by local farmers during the Ajuuran/Imamate era.

The Raxanweyn however do live there but on the fringes bordering cities on Shabelle hoose. The entire coastal cities and major cities is none Raxanweyne lands. You will never see a Raxanweyn claiming Merka Cadey, Barawe, Qorooleey, Afgooyi, Walaweyn district. As for The jareer in all of somalia they are below 2%.. Waa dad Maskiin ah who doesn't do duulmi or anything they themselves are diaspora in the country and foreigners.

[bashe19]

Banaadir should have counsil lkn waa ineysan jirin Guri qofkii lahaa xoog looga heystaaa. This must be clear.

[theyuusuf143]

I think you are underestimating the number of jareer and raxanwayn in lower shabeele and mothern jubaland. I know cagdheer or daaroods has little to do with this side of jubaland. But I am sure the jareer are the majority more than any one else. Underestimating these peaple will eventually backfire the Somali faradheer.

jareer waa madhibaan NOT as in midgaan but the literal word madhibaan (harmless) Besides they are insignificiant minority less then 2% in all of Somalia. You will find more Jareer bordering between Bay and Gedo including the Jubboyinka closer to Saakow and lower jubboyinka closer to the Kenyan borders and these seem to be more recent jareer the ones south of Afmadow. I guess the Ogaden and Degodiya farmers have shipped them in less then 100 years ago it is some what of an scandal and it is kept hush hush because nobody was admitting to slavery 100 years ago or keeping slaves at that period it was taboo or heck for the last 500 years it was taboo to use slaves in somalia for religious reasons while these on the outskirts of Buaale have been brought in by the Ajuuraan era for plantation works. You will also find small tiny communities in Hiraan, Jowhar and Puntland these were brought in by local farmers during the Ajuuran/Imamate era.

The Raxanweyn however do live there but on the fringes bordering cities on Shabelle hoose. The entire coastal cities and major cities is none Raxanweyne lands. You will never see a Raxanweyn claiming Merka Cadey, Barawe, Qorooleey, Afgooyi, Walaweyn district. As for The jareer in all of somalia they are below 2%.. Waa dad Maskiin ah who doesn't do duulmi or anything they themselves are diaspora in the country and foreigners.

Brother I have studied every district of this region and I am telling you the truth wallaahi jareer are the majority followed by eelaay . Swallow your ego we need These peaple . As a Dir even in jamaame they own half of it , meel kasta oo biyo leh jareer baa degan. Dadkan hadii kenya iyo Tanzania soo hubeeyan we have no chance. We better make them kamasle hawiye.

[GameChanger]

I think you are underestimating the number of jareer and raxanwayn in lower shabeele and mothern jubaland. I know cagdheer or daaroods has little to do with this side of jubaland. But I am sure the jareer are the majority more than any one else. Underestimating these peaple will eventually backfire the Somali faradheer.

jareer waa madhibaan NOT as in midgaan but the literal word madhibaan (harmless) Besides they are insignificiant minority less then 2% in all of Somalia. You will find more Jareer bordering between Bay and Gedo including the Jubboyinka closer to Saakow and lower jubboyinka closer to the Kenyan borders and these seem to be more recent jareer the ones south of Afmadow. I guess the Ogaden and Degodiya farmers have shipped them in less then 100 years ago it is some what of an scandal and it is kept hush hush because nobody was admitting to slavery 100 years ago or keeping slaves at that period it was taboo or heck for the last 500 years it was taboo to use slaves in somalia for religious reasons while these on the outskirts of Buaale have been brought in by the Ajuuraan era for plantation works. You will also find small tiny communities in Hiraan, Jowhar and Puntland these were brought in by local farmers during the Ajuuran/Imamate era.

The Raxanweyn however do live there but on the fringes bordering cities on Shabelle hoose. The entire coastal cities and major cities is none Raxanweyne lands. You will never see a Raxanweyn claiming Merka Cadey, Barawe, Qorooleey, Afgooyi, Walaweyn district. As for The jareer in all of somalia they are below 2%.. Waa dad Maskiin ah who doesn't do duulmi or anything they themselves are diaspora in the country and foreigners.

Brother I have studied every district of this region and I am telling you the truth wallaahi jareer are the majority followed by eelaay . Swallow your ego we need These peaple . As a Dir even in jamaame they own half of it , meel kasta oo biyo leh jareer baa degan. Dadkan hadii kenya iyo Tanzania soo hubeeyan we have no chance. We better make them kamasle hawiye.

I know the region myself and I can tell you that this is not the case.. They are less then 2% in the country and minority group within somalia waa Madhibaan.. Waa dad maskiin aa iska daaf

[theyuusuf143]

Good lucky to you then as a Dir every jareer resident in our jamaame district is a biimaal . We don't tolerate discrimination.