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Abkowdhiblaawe What Happened Here?

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What time of anshax xumo were these folks doing @ Liido? Were you one of the people whopped? :mrgreen:


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Its common to see such things when ruled by uneducated and uncultured. I am sure he is proud of his assault on youth and causing actual bodily harm.....
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Xitaa Sheikh Hassan seems to be proud of his ignorance.
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Haha waaliga wilaayada Banadir Sheikh Yusuf Madaale. :mrgreen:
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In addition to being the mayor of Mogadisho, madaale, happens to be the head of the city's Vice Squad oo hayad ahaan loo yaqaano luuqada carabiga, "al amru bi macruuf wa nahyi canil munkar".
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Its funny how is abusing some miskiin kids having fun while in the very same city there are some darod people buried in the garden while the house is occupied
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AbkoowDhiblaawe wrote: Mon Apr 24, 2023 4:06 am Haha waaliga wilaayada Banadir Sheikh Yusuf Madaale. :mrgreen:
barbarossa wrote: In addition to being the mayor of Mogadisho, madaale, happens to be the head of the city's Vice Squad oo hayad ahaan loo yaqaano luuqada carabiga, "al amru bi macruuf wa nahyi canil munkar".

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Everything wrong with Somalis is in that video.

-Lack of law and order
-No accountability in politics
-Authoritarianism
-Impunity by powerful people
-arbitrary justice
-Extrajudicial punishment

That man is the "State."

Those folks are the "People."

What you see is the "People" are accountable to the "State" rather than the "State" being accountable to the "People."

The first is the most extreme expression of tyranny and oppression.

The second is the highest aspiration of freedom and Liberty.

Mr. Madaale or the "State" in that video is the Judge, the Jury, and the Executioner over a helpless People.

What is missing is the LAW or rather JUSTICE.

JUSTICE mediates between them. It says "State" bring your "charge," but do not forget to bring your "evidence". It then turns to "People" and says "come forward little one, you have the right to DEFEND" yourself. Both of you sit before me and I, Justice, will fairly and equally, without bias or prejudice, judge between you two.


What you see in that video is simply and egregiously the definition of "Injustice."
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Gubbet wrote: Mon Apr 24, 2023 10:47 am Everything wrong with Somalis is in that video.

-Lack of law and order
-No accountability in politics
-Authoritarianism
-Impunity by powerful people
-arbitrary justice
-Extrajudicial punishment

That man is the "State."

Those folks are the "People."

What you see is the "People" are accountable to the "State" rather than the "State" being accountable to the "People."

The first is the most extreme expression of tyranny and oppression.

The second is the highest aspiration of freedom and Liberty.

Mr. Madaale or the "State" in that video is the Judge, the Jury, and the Executioner over a helpless People.

What is missing is the LAW or rather JUSTICE.

JUSTICE mediates between them. It says "State" bring your "charge," but do not forget to bring your "evidence". It then turns to "People" and says "come forward little one, you have the right to DEFEND" yourself. Both of you sit before me and I, Justice, will fairly and equally, without bias or prejudice, judge between you two.


What you see in that video is simply and egregiously the definition of "Injustice."

I don’t wanna hear it. They overthrew a popular president. Let Democrats deal with the consequences of electing HSM. They no power on the ground.
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Gubbet wrote: Mon Apr 24, 2023 10:47 am Everything wrong with Somalis is in that video.

-Lack of law and order
-No accountability in politics
-Authoritarianism
-Impunity by powerful people
-arbitrary justice
-Extrajudicial punishment

That man is the "State."

Those folks are the "People."

What you see is the "People" are accountable to the "State" rather than the "State" being accountable to the "People."

The first is the most extreme expression of tyranny and oppression.

The second is the highest aspiration of freedom and Liberty.

Mr. Madaale or the "State" in that video is the Judge, the Jury, and the Executioner over a helpless People.

What is missing is the LAW or rather JUSTICE.

JUSTICE mediates between them. It says "State" bring your "charge," but do not forget to bring your "evidence". It then turns to "People" and says "come forward little one, you have the right to DEFEND" yourself. Both of you sit before me and I, Justice, will fairly and equally, without bias or prejudice, judge between you two.


What you see in that video is simply and egregiously the definition of "Injustice."

Inadeer is a lot of this not the moral high ground pedestal universal pluralism of Western Values mindset? Societies determine what is socially acceptable, and what’s not. Somalia by any metric you can imagine is not only a very conservative society, but a closed society. Many of the values found reprehensible in Muslim Majority countries are found just as equally reprehensible in reverse in Muslim countries. Heck forget Somalia I’ve friggin heard of nightclub parties being forcibly ended by Religious folks in Birmingham, frigging ENGLAND! :dead:


Even the US State Department will warn all travelers of dos and don’ts when traveling to any country. If you asked the State Dept if grinding on females, female twerking, getting turnt in Liido beach is advisable they’d say otherwise.


I come across many Somalis straight from Somalia, and majority of Somalis are in support of what this mayor did. So I say Al Ameer Wilaaya Al Maqdishu Al Madaale Tafadhal! :dead:
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Inadeer is a lot of this not the moral high ground pedestal universal pluralism of Western Values mindset?
No, this is the "basic" understanding of justice the world over and even Islam and even paganism.

Every single human culture recognizes the "judge" and the "executioner" not only have to be different but co-equal.

Basic Somali Xeer customary law formed in the desert bush by nomads not even united in a system establishes "gar qaad" or adjudication and establishes the need for difference between judge and executioner.

When a charge/allegation/claim is made, both sides sit in a gogal with a mutually accepted arbitrator who then caries out justice "garqaad/xukum."

Murax, I am going to fundamentally constructively criticize something about you.

You unwittingly seem to display the bias that in fact everyone else is a barbarian and uncivilized and only the West has civilization and is basically "human."

3rd world societies recognize the judge and executioner must be different.

Non-State implicated Xeer customary law recognizes the judge and executioner must be different.

Pygmies who are hunter gatherers remote to outside world recognize the judge and executioner must be different.

Human essences recognizes what Madaale did is wrong even inspite of the "religious paternalism" that some want to espouse.

In fact that "religious paternalism" is an "innovation" that has to be defended by the people wrongly espousing it because it is so "unnatural" to what is innately human.

No human soul feels, believes, or supports the idea that some "other" has a "right" to abuse you just because they have more "power" over you.
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First of all that place is a nightclub that is number 1.. And second of all they are playing loud music and neighbours not far away and I believe due to complaints they are caught red-handed and the flogging was for displining them.. That is the definition of somalinimo and they took it well themselves it is like a parent flogging his kids.

Nothing major really.. People should first assess the situation before they open their mouth.

Ahki what if you daughter was there nightclubbing? Too many illegal nightclubs in Mogadishu some of them too loud hence some of them are closed down with police complaints if they sit too close to districts or a place where people live who raising their children, taking care of their parents etc etc.. Nobody wants such a shxt show besides them on the next door.. Ciyaal from the west keep opening nightclubs everywhere for business proposes but some of them are closed by neighbour complaints via the police who then shouts them down due to noise
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