Hawiye Figured Out A Permanent Power Sharing Strategy Say Congrats

[Murax]

Ilmo Hiiraab alliance.

HG take a backseat, support Abgal Presidential candidates
While in return Abgal award all the lucrative money making positions to HG even over Abgal. This is the real gentleman’s agreement. Aniga as a Darood I will tip my hat to them be a ragg, and say congrats.


It’s why our former Ustaadh Sahal after decades of preaching HAG Gospel finally realized this, and has resorted to the most vicious insults against Abgal, HG, even negative posts about Isaaq while being a lackey for MJ

[original dervish]

I don't begrudge any southern group from forming an alliance.

My only concern is if that alliance can successfully stabilise the country and govern effectively.

Abgaal and hg could have come to an understanding 30 years ago. However, better late than never.

[Murax]

I don't begrudge any southern group from forming an alliance.

My only concern is if that alliance can successfully stabilise the country and govern effectively.

Abgaal and hg could have come to an understanding 30 years ago. However, better late than never.

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[theyuusuf143]

I don't think abgaal differentiate between habagidir and xawaadle. They can both eat good. Laakiin xawaadlaha qaarbaa daarod Ku dhegta wax ugu sheega , waxa la odhan karaa waxay noqon rabaan cadawga gudaha ee hawiye , hadaan imika hogaan kooda wax laga bedelin. Xasan sheekh ha eryo all anti HAG xawaadles and he should bring new xawaadles HAG nimada sharaabsan.

[BigBreak]

The presidency of Somalia should be rotated between Abgaal and HG only, no one else

[Khalid Ali]

Ilmo Hiiraab alliance.

HG take a backseat, support Abgal Presidential candidates
While in return Abgal award all the lucrative money making positions to HG even over Abgal. This is the real gentleman’s agreement. Aniga as a Darood I will tip my hat to them be a ragg, and say congrats.


It’s why our former Ustaadh Sahal after decades of preaching HAG Gospel finally realized this, and has resorted to the most vicious insults against Abgal, HG, even negative posts about Isaaq while being a lackey for MJ

i understand he is angry with habargedir for getting all of those projects investments and positions i can even understand why he dislikes abgaal for snatching hiirshabelle from him and awarding habargedir instead of xawaadle
what i dont understand is what have we done to him

and why does he have to become a majeerteen prostitute this is hilarious waligay ismaan lahayn sahal would become a majeerteen love

there are some clans that marka ama somalida ba sidoodaba hada laga xanaaajiyo something happens to them they prostute them selves really
just inspite to their own people for example. u as a reer ali xusseen has a beef with reer dini and then, suddenly u become a prostute for ogaden in jubbaland and kismayo, just to stick it to reer diini.. now that is a weird strange behaviour somalis do

[Kees70]

This whole thread has got the Hawiye perception wrong.

One must first understand Hawiyes history and it's standing today in Somalia to fully understand what's going on in Hawiyes inner politics.

In Somalia as we all know there is no such thing as Hawiye but there is Hiiraab that has always existed since Ajuuraan was overthrown centuries ago.

In Somalia as we speak (not including the nfd and DDSI) its an Hiiraab territory and not Hawiye collectively, murursade which is closest to us Hiiraab is himself non-native that have been imported from Ethiopia, the story is well known that when Madarkicis Maxamed (HG) married Gidir Karanle in Babile DDSI, the day after the marriage when Madarkicis tried to return to his ancestral Hiiraab territory the wife gidirs uncle Murusade followed the married couple all the way back to Hiiraabs ancestral lands hence why murursade are called herradiid (refused to stop following) for following the married couple to their Hiiraab lands, and it's Madarkicis who named his children after his wife Gidir hence the name Habar Gidir.


As for Xawadle, Galjecel and Sheikhal they are all langaabta ilmo Samaale who have all joined Hiiraabs protection under Hawiyes umbrella.

So whenever shisheeye clans like Daroods and Isaaq talk about why Abgaals and HG fight each others or supporting each others it's because they are ilmo Hiiraab siblings who will forever be intertwined in Somalia.

Its Hiiraab per Father's dying wish that Mudolood to be the Political Head and HG the Military Head, and this is what we see today.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hiraab

[Kees70]

Kkkk I already see our brother Sahal disgracefully cry about HGs on that dirty cancerous mjspot,

I'm gonna entertain him by answering why HGs are the way they are,

HGs don't see allies and enemies the way Xawadles do, it's in our nature to fight and expand for our interests and our current interests lies in entrenching and expanding ourselves in Hiiraan, and if Xawadle is crying about that, than they can kick rock or fight back which i doubt anyways.

Kkkkk it seems HGs latest 3rd district Gerijir has indeed riled up Xawadles, but none the less HGs will continue to expand in Hiiraan, our next districts in Hiiraan will be Degmada Qodqod iyo Degmada Cilmi Joowle.





Guul HGs and let crybabies keep crying from afar.

[Ghiklo]

Sahal is a noble son of E-Y18637. His lineage is the MOST laandheere in Somalia by far. Hiiraabs are no match for the rest of E-Y18637.

[Miles8]

Kkkk I already see our brother Sahal disgracefully cry about HGs on that dirty cancerous mjspot,

I'm gonna entertain him by answering why HGs are the way they are,

HGs don't see allies and enemies the way Xawadles do, it's in our nature to fight and expand for our interests and our current interests lies in entrenching and expanding ourselves in Hiiraan, and if Xawadle is crying about that, than they can kick rock or fight back which i doubt anyways.

Kkkkk it seems HGs latest 3rd district Gerijir has indeed riled up Xawadles, but none the less HGs will continue to expand in Hiiraan, our next districts in Hiiraan will be Degmada Qodqod iyo Degmada Cilmi Joowle.





Guul HGs and let crybabies keep crying from afar.

Hiraab is illegally occupying the throne or even accepting the rule of a protector is out of xeer the throne was for Xamare Samaale and Hiraab was suppose to be the xoog military muscle which they have decided to betray that agreement by dethroning and chasing away the son elected by our samaale forefathers.. Hiraab usurping Xamare Samaale in the late 1700s was an act of heresy..

Even calling the noble kids such as Xawaadle iyo Gaaljecel as laangaabta ilmo samaale is heretic..

Calling geesiga Hawiye oo dhan Murusade herradiid

[original dervish]

Typical Somali faan.
If your so strong and heroic......stabilise the South and open up the country to investment.....instead of this perpetual begging merry-go-round masquerading as a government.

[Miles8]

Kees is a blasphemous hagite

[Miles8]

Kkkk I already see our brother Sahal disgracefully cry about HGs on that dirty cancerous mjspot,

I'm gonna entertain him by answering why HGs are the way they are,

If I see you entering Deynille, Ceelbuur or anywhere near in my areas in Galagaduud iyo the districts of Mogadishu under us I will gun your ass down


I will also communicate to Sahal to gun you down if spotted anywhere in Hiraan besides Hirshabelle is XL Maamul.


I have also seen you trash talking Cali Jeyte the man who defeated AS

[Miles8]

I don't begrudge any southern group from forming an alliance.

Insha-Allah not only them but All somalis will form an alliance. You seem noble OD