North South integration starts as south’s elders land in hargeisa

[mahoka]

North South integration process has started as southern elders land in hargeisa. The elders were welcomed by muuse biixi allies elders such as the suldan of Sacad muse tribe.

This marks the much talked about North South integration process, something that was being planned by the western sponsors of Somalia (and Somaliland) - particularly the U.K., US and EU. Russia and China also agree to this integration process - as do the neighbouring African nations such as Djibouti, Ethiopia and Kenya





This is a new dawn for the Somali people and nation, after 30 years of conflict, poverty, suffering, humiliation, colonisation and molestation by the rest of the planet, we can move forward, the Chinese left behind their century of humiliation and it’s about time we do so too.


The questions going forward are several - in this thread we should seek to answer the following questions

1- what is going to happen to the federal system
2- what is the power sharing settlement (Including capital city) going to include
3- what system of governance are we looking at?
4- what will happen to the 4.5 system, elections/selections

5- how will security concerns be addressed
6- natural resource extraction and resource sharing

[mahoka]

One thing that is very important going forward is that every man must bring something useful to the table in order to have a say. The days of different regions/communities not contributing anything useful and eating off the backs of others are gone- if we are to avoid conflict and bickering we must hold this rule to the extreme


If a region/community is struggling then they should be given charity/aid but state resources/the fruits of others must never be ‘shared equally’ - this has always been the cause of problems.

[Khalid Ali]

what a load nonsense these elders are just visiting they are not politicians this is not the first time the walanweyns elders have arrived in Somaliland during siilaanyo and ina rayaale they have arrived there even during cigaal elders can always visit each other in any part of the Somali peninsula.. What we have an issue is with politicians when mps poltiicians from Somalia will be arrested on sight if they arrive in Hargeisa that is the difference there is no sharing and all of that with Somalia. Somaliland and Somalia will never ever share a country a government ever haku riyoon

by the way this is not about the talks this is about laascanood they are here to mediate between the terrorists qurjiiles and the Somaliland army thats why they are here they are not here for the said somalia and somaliland talks, the somalia and somaliland talks have died long time ago back in 2015 they are not going to restart those talks any time soon unless there are mediators from the international community


As for suldaan hassan he is not the sacad muse sultan

Suldan hassan is the Habarawal Sultan the most powerful Clan in the region his sultanate dates back at least 350 years

Sultan hassan
Sultan abdulahi
Suldan abduramana
Sultaan Diirye
Garaad Ali
Garad abdale

[original dervish]

We welcome the intervention of the elders.
Tyrant Bixi's criminal regime has perpetrated a genocide against peaceful Dhulbahante......this regime must be held accountable.

Mahoka is right...... the entire international community have affirmed the inviolable territorial integrity of Somalia. This will never change. There will be no referendum on secession.

Somalia has Dhulbahante to thank.
Once again we have rescued Somalia from the iidoors.

[Khalid Ali]

od there is no genoicide against ur qurjiile peoplle but the terriotrial integrtity of Somaliland is sacrosacnt and there is nothing u can do about it to stop it . Biixi is doing a good job 37 qurjjiles have met their maker yesterday and allah is asking them why they opposed the blessed sadaat nation all for bunker of uganda . independence already happened for the somaliland people . referendum is a must whether u like it or not the stalemate cant go on for ever somalia will respect our wishes. one way or the other

[theyuusuf143]

We welcome the intervention of the elders.
Tyrant Bixi's criminal regime has perpetrated a genocide against peaceful Dhulbahante......this regime must be held accountable.

Mahoka is right...... the entire international community have affirmed the inviolable territorial integrity of Somalia. This will never change. There will be no referendum on secession.

Somalia has Dhulbahante to thank.
Once again we have rescued Somalia from the iidoors.

To sum it up for you

Goojacade is mine
Isaaq and dhulbahante will never be together
Somalia won't pay your bills
Somalia won't defend your ass from me
Irir Samaale will always exist against daarod
Somaliland won't be recognised by Somalis
Somaliland will always be the strongest de facto state in the world.

I am fine with that , the only thing that matters to me is isaaq Unity .

[skywalker25]

One thing that is very important going forward is that every man must bring something useful to the table in order to have a say. The days of different regions/communities not contributing anything useful and eating off the backs of others are gone- if we are to avoid conflict and bickering we must hold this rule to the extreme


If a region/community is struggling then they should be given charity/aid but state resources/the fruits of others must never be ‘shared equally’ - this has always been the cause of problems.

You finally showed your true colours. You hid behind the "Somaliland elites are the enemy" to now advocating for Somali/Somaliland integration. clearly, judging from your post you've obviously harboured these thought a long time.

Inan yar o nux ismail baad tahay e Darod ma taqanid.

They are like OD if not worse, who only understand one language, the language of strength. You have to be more powerful for them to respect you like a dog.
Change your tone sxb, this is the horn of africa. Nobody gives up peace and stability to pursue some idealistic nonsense about unity and equality. Specially if these same people are plotting day and night to put you under 5 feet.

[BigBreak]

Spot on Skywalker, this rat Mahoka is a sheegato pretending to be Isaaq when he is a bloody Zoomalian

[theyuusuf143]

Mudane sky Ka waran if we increase the property tax in hargeisa , and put some tariff on irbada macaanka. Nuux ismaaciil Ku waa pussies badan koodu waxay quutaan hantidii awaawyaashood tabceen beri samaadkii , intooda badana cuduray qabaan
Inactivity ga la xidhiidha. They are not like the reer samatar or reer daahir. Inagu gaajo Ku kor baynu nahay aan waxba Ka naxayn oo qiiqaya , nin aabihii wax uga dhintay inaguma jiro we are too competent for this shit .

[Gubbet]

Welcome back home Yusuf.

[theyuusuf143]

Welcome back home Yusuf.

We are family here , same like the Galti . Nuux ismaaciil ku waa reer gurigiina oo kale , nin luuq jooga oo sagaal hectare oo webiga kulaalaya lehba baa waxa u talinaya nin caabudwaaq Ka yimi.

Dunidan marwalba ninka ooman baa belaayada jecel

[Gubbet]

Welcome back home Yusuf.

We are family here , same like the Galti . Nuux ismaaciil ku waa reer gurigiina oo kale , nin luuq jooga oo sagaal hectare oo webiga kulaalaya lehba baa waxa u talinaya nin caabudwaaq Ka yimi.

Dunidan marwalba ninka ooman baa belaayada jecel

Gudoomiyaha degmada Luuq, Gudoomiyaha Gobolka Gedo, Madaxwayne ku xigeenka Jubbaland, intuba waaw wada Saddam-Mariixmaan (Reer Hassan from Luuq who are Guri). Malaha idinkeey waxaas idin dhex taal, Mareexaan waa mid qura

[theyuusuf143]

Do you think I am stupid , I have studied jubaland 100 times more than somaliland. Wax uu gaal dhulkaas Ka qoray oo aanan akhrin ma jiro. Idinka iska dhaafe jareer taan kuu abtirin karaa inta juffiyood ee ay u kala baxaan.

[LeJusticier]

Bolshit topic created BY Mohoka
Visitors from Hawiye? so what? What does Suldaan guud aka Suldaan loser can do? nada.
Hooyadiin Yusuf F. GE.....

[Gubbet]

Kolayba welcome back home inkastaad dhibaato iyo colaad nala maagantahay midhaha Daarood Ismaaciil