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Reer Ciyoow Vs Xawadle, as Xawadle are being cleansed from Northern Hiiraan.
Posted: Thu Apr 27, 2023 8:02 am
by Kees70
These are some of the Xawadle militia boys who came from Beledweyne and Beergadiid who got killed this morning by Reer Ciyoow.
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so far 11 Xawadle were send to an early grave by Ceyr sub-clan Reer Ciyoow
Re: Reer Ciyoow Vs Xawadle, as Xawadle are being cleansed from Northern Hiiraan.
Posted: Thu Apr 27, 2023 8:51 am
by Gubbet
Without 'spin' Kees, can you list what is the Habar Gidir argument concerning what is going on in Matabaan and "why" Xawaadle has decided to start targeting "baraago" of Cayr. As you know, destroying baraago is fundamentally a sign that the issue is no longer about "politics" but "land settlement," "my" land vs. "your" land.
Re: Reer Ciyoow Vs Xawadle, as Xawadle are being cleansed from Northern Hiiraan.
Posted: Thu Apr 27, 2023 9:28 am
by GeoSeven
The Matabaan clashes are an annual affair for 60 years. Be that as it may, this one is not organic. It has the hallmarks of political intrigue.
It is not a Xawaadle weyne issue. This is solely Cigale Xaaji a subclan of Agoon vs Ceyr in Matabaan. Kees, apart from Maxamed Cali of Cali Madaxweyne, not a single one of the other 15 Xawaadle subclans are/have ever been involved in the Matabaan issues because they do not border HG.
RIP to the dead.
Re: Reer Ciyoow Vs Xawadle, as Xawadle are being cleansed from Northern Hiiraan.
Posted: Thu Apr 27, 2023 9:34 am
by Kees70
Gubbet wrote: Thu Apr 27, 2023 8:51 am
Without 'spin' Kees, can you list what is the Habar Gidir argument concerning what is going on in Matabaan and "why" Xawaadle has decided to start targeting "baraago" of Cayr. As you know, destroying baraago is fundamentally a sign that the issue is no longer about "politics" but "land settlement," "my" land vs. "your" land.
Xawaadle nomads have been trying to graze in to reer Ciyoow Ayaanle Dhul and after two boys got killed they tried to bury the well of a man called Cabdi Xiirey and Ina Dhagoole, instead they got karbaashed.
In summary, it’s Xawadle trying to graze forcefully and were shown a bit of brute force that lead to todays fight.
Re: Reer Ciyoow Vs Xawadle, as Xawadle are being cleansed from Northern Hiiraan.
Posted: Thu Apr 27, 2023 9:40 am
by Gubbet
GeoSeven wrote: Thu Apr 27, 2023 9:28 am
The Matabaan clashes are an annual affair for 60 years. Be that as it may, this one is not organic. It has the hallmarks of political intrigue.
It is not a Xawaadle weyne issue. This is solely Cigale Xaaji a subclan of Agoon vs Ceyr in Matabaan. Kees, apart from Maxamed Cali of Cali Madaxweyne, not a single one of the other 15 Xawaadle subclans are/have ever been involved in the Matabaan issues because they do not border HG.
RIP to the dead.
The point of Clan is a "contract" for security assurance even before resource sharing. The base of the Clan as an institution is the Weregild (Blood Price). In other words, were 1 Xawaadle is implicated in blood, either his shed or having shed it, then all Xawaadle everywhere are implicated.
Re: Reer Ciyoow Vs Xawadle, as Xawadle are being cleansed from Northern Hiiraan.
Posted: Thu Apr 27, 2023 9:43 am
by Gubbet
Kees70 wrote: Thu Apr 27, 2023 9:34 am
Gubbet wrote: Thu Apr 27, 2023 8:51 am
Without 'spin' Kees, can you list what is the Habar Gidir argument concerning what is going on in Matabaan and "why" Xawaadle has decided to start targeting "baraago" of Cayr. As you know, destroying baraago is fundamentally a sign that the issue is no longer about "politics" but "land settlement," "my" land vs. "your" land.
Xawaadle nomads have been trying to graze in to reer Ciyoow Ayaanle Dhul and after two boys got killed they tried to bury the well of a man called Cabdi Xiirey and Ina Dhagoole, instead they got karbaashed.
I understand the HG point of view on this issue now.
Re: Reer Ciyoow Vs Xawadle, as Xawadle are being cleansed from Northern Hiiraan.
Posted: Thu Apr 27, 2023 2:08 pm
by Hulkujir
