Cali Yare is the only man in the world I believed could improve the relationship between his Reer Ayaanle and Marehan.

[Gubbet]

This is Robecchi's map from the 1890's coming at a point in the circular seasonal migration where Rer Ayaanle behind Marehan territory afforded privilege to graze by Marehan;



This is my own map identifying substantive moments of involuntary land movement in western Galmudug the last half century;



There are 3 sub-clans in Hawiye whose basic self-interest and evolutionary survival interests are seriously impacted/affected/depend on/are influenced by their 'relationship' to their immediate Marehan neighbor.

Two of them are the Reer Muuse of Saleebaan and the Reer Wardheere Galbeyte Jalaf of Sacad.

But more than those two, the single most "vulnerable" Hawiye clan to the consequences/effect of their relationship with Marehan Darod is the Reer Ayaanle of Cayr.

I have already talked at length about this so I do not want to regurgitate anything, but the mistake that Reer Ayaanle are making through guys who have have evinced the behavior of Mahad Salaad is something so extraordinarily harmful to their self-interest, I call it 'intentional' self-harm.

Yes I am Marehan, but I have gained a substantive and holistic understanding of this history, I still offer that point of view purely on the merits.

Cali Yare is Reer Ayaanle and he is Ciyoow even within Ayaanle.who are the most vulnerable to their relationship with Marehan even among Ayaanle.

For quite sometime I have believed he intrinsically understood what I understood regarding the importance of improving the relationship pure on the basis of self-interest and survival.
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I am not so sure I sustain confidence in that belief anymore.

It is more than probable both he and the relationship between Ayaanle and MX were in the end supposed to follow the predictable Somali storyline after all---

---no redemption; more hatred, more moving apart, and a completely separated and distinct, alien group of people with no memory of different times.

[theyuusuf143]

Ustaad gubbet in my humble opinion , "intentional self harming" is the trend now, all over the Somali peninsula. mareexaan and habar gidir are like dhulbahante and habarjeclo. Or ciise and samaroon.

I have learned each Somali qabiil hates the one next to him , and the weaker one is always the aggressor or the instigator of the initial conflict. More powerful clans are generally less offensive. If for example you believe ayaannle is in vulnerable position for mareexaan. Never expect peace from them. The more vulnerable they feel the more aggressive they react to any thing.

[Hulkujir]

Ustaad gubbet in my humble opinion , "intentional self harming" is the trend now, all over the Somali peninsula. mareexaan and habar gidir are like dhulbahante and habarjeclo. Or ciise and samaroon.

I have learned each Somali qabiil hates the one next to him , and the weaker one is always the aggressor or the instigator of the initial conflict. More powerful clans are generally less offensive. If for example you believe ayaannle is in vulnerable position for mareexaan. Never expect peace from them. The more vulnerable they feel the more aggressive they react to any thing.

There is MX vs Habar Gidir yes that is correct, but there is no such thing as Ayaanle vs MX Ayaanle only neighbour some Rer Diini specifically Bah Hawadle and Bah Darandoole, they have nothing to do with rest of Rer Diini at all forget about rest of MX.

Also no MX who is going to put their fate in the hands of a Hutu dhabodilif like Cali Yarre, and what makes it worse is Cali Yarre is Rer Ayaanle from the opposing clan of Bah Hawadle, Gubbets clan.

[theyuusuf143]

There will always be conflict between the whole habagidir and mareexaan. Why r you Putin your brother Cali jeeb Ku jire under the bus there is nothing he can do about Clan issues older than him. You guys are too quick to expel your horgals . I feel sorry for Cali jeeb Ku jire he ended up hasha labada geed jecele midna gaadhi wayday. The hutu Extremists don't trust him Either.

[barbarossa]

Ever noticed how when it comes to qabiil-engendered enmity, the nearer, in terms of sub subclan, the feuding parties are, the more the intense/venomous their naceeb for each other. For anyone interested out there, such is the pernicious nature of cancerous qabyaalad, wey bilaabaata ee ma dhamaato.

[Hulkujir]

There will always be conflict between the whole habagidir and mareexaan. Why r you Putin your brother Cali jeeb Ku jire under the bus there is nothing he can do about Clan issues older than him. You guys are too quick to expel your horgals . I feel sorry for Cali jeeb Ku jire he ended up hasha labada geed jecele midna gaadhi wayday. The hutu Extremists don't trust him Either.

when it comes to deegaan cali jeeb ku jire is habar gidir and I am mx. Isbahaysi siyaasaded wee jirta but deegaan iyo siyaasada kala saar.

ceelgaab a territory rich in resources belonged to mx specifically the subclan gubbet claims, it need to be saved from him on this forum, there can be no concessions given to iljeex on a public forum.

How can we as mx karbash ayax cune iljeex when we have threads like this he has made millions of post about this.. Back in the day he use to be even worse, today all mx know he is shisheeye kalkaal but there is nothing we can do it's public forum freedom of speech, but back in the day they viewed him as normal guy. He has improved so much now he has embraced he is bah hutu back in the day he would fight me for just calling him that, gubaabo and me saying faca iska dhici he would label me subclannist. We are all learning and growing and he has done alot of growing and has lot more growing to do.

[Nomand]

There will always be conflict between the whole habagidir and mareexaan. Why r you Putin your brother Cali jeeb Ku jire under the bus there is nothing he can do about Clan issues older than him. You guys are too quick to expel your horgals . I feel sorry for Cali jeeb Ku jire he ended up hasha labada geed jecele midna gaadhi wayday. The hutu Extremists don't trust him Either.

There is no such thing as whole mx vs hg.

Huge mx subclans like reer talxe, reer ahmed, reer Hassan have never seen a hg. As they live in jubbaland.

Even bah xawaadle I would say majority live in jubbaland. In places like garbahaarey, baardheere, buurdhuubo and kismayo.

Mx in galnus fought and see all hg subclan. But hg do not even see 25 percent of mx.