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Let's just be clear;

1. You have no border
2. You have no actual socio-political or cultural links
3. Youu have no deegaan or relevance to Ethiopia as Sacad and their only relevance to Somalia is Badhaadhe bordering Waboni in Lamu County as Muqaabul meaning no relevance to each other as Somalia or Ethiopia

The only reason why you ever meet is because of 'Marehan."

But here is the thing----this isn't the past and the same ole isn't the same ole now, it has consequences to your detriment.

1. Marehan has ended all problems with Saleebaan. As late as last week, Saleebaan without being asked or implicated out of their own accord came to Marehan and said 'my border with you is Biyoguduud." That's 8 months after the Saleebaan and Wagardhac peace treaty which means it worked. As of last week, Marehan told Saleebaan you are free to graze to "Labagale." Labagale is where the battle of "Godka" happened that led to Saleebaan asking for peace last fall. Isn't it amazing what humans can achieve through peace and good will? :)

2. Marehan has succeeded in reaching an understanding with Cagjar's Reer Isaaq wing of Mohamed Zuber. This has implications for both what a MX run Jubbaland implicates (Madoobe the fart doesn't even consider anybody but Rer Warfa as OG) as well as what MX in their corner as new/more allies within Somali Region participation does for their competitiveness vs Rer Abdille. Now the next time the proposal for Marehan district is put up before the regional government in Jigjiga, it will not just be Cagjar arguing for MX district to be rebuffed by a surprised gole which is only hearing from Makaahiil and their grievance. We have made allies and supporters out of 1/2 of the most powerful section of Ogaden who happen to be the State president's group. They will be speaking up co-signing.


You would think logically both of you would be very smart about how you move around Marehan considering exactly 1/2 of the burden that was on Marehan facing both of you is now arrested (Saleebaan facing you and Jigjiga face Makaahiil)

This week, Wagardhac/Reer Gediid bought a Zuug off of my sub-clan the Reer Siyaad in Balanbale. They took that Zuug to a place. Reer Dalal has also called in almost all of Bah-Ogaadeen's armaments to take it to a place.

Beesha Sade is gearing up for historically relevant hostilities implicating their historical boundary to the east with a place and to the west with a place.

There is nothing you can do for each other and even this is counterproductive because it only puts "ficil" in MX.

One would think you would be smarter, but if that were the case, you wouldn't even be having hostilities with Marehan anymore like Saleebaan.
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Gubbet wrote: Fri May 26, 2023 3:57 am Let's just be clear;

1. You have no border
2. You have no actual socio-political or cultural links
3. Youu have no deegaan or relevance to Ethiopia as Sacad and their only relevance to Somalia is Badhaadhe bordering Waboni in Lamu County as Muqaabul meaning no relevance to each other as Somalia or Ethiopia

The only reason why you ever meet is because of 'Marehan."

But here is the thing----this isn't the past and the same ole isn't the same ole now, it has consequences to your detriment.

1. Marehan has ended all problems with Saleebaan. As late as last week, Saleebaan without being asked or implicated out of their own accord came to Marehan and said 'my border with you is Biyoguduud." That's 8 months after the Saleebaan and Wagardhac peace treaty which means it worked. As of last week, Marehan told Saleebaan you are free to graze to "Labagale." Labagale is where the battle of "Godka" happened that led to Saleebaan asking for peace last fall. Isn't it amazing what humans can achieve through peace and good will? :)

2. Marehan has succeeded in reaching an understanding with Cagjar's Reer Isaaq wing of Mohamed Zuber. Now the next time the proposal for Marehan district is put up before the bloated unrepresentative current regional government in Jigjiga, it will not just be Cagjar arguing for MX district to be rebuffed by a surprised gole which only is hearing from Makaahiil and their grievance. We have made allies and supporters out of 1/2 of the most powerful section of Ogaden who happen to be the State president's group.


You would think logically both of you would be very smart about how you move around Marehan considering exactly 1/2 of the burden that was on Marehan facing both of you is now arrested.

This week, Wagardhac/Reer Gediid bought a Zuug off of my sub-clan the Reer Siyaad in Balanbale. They took that Zuug to Higlotiriye. Reer Dalal has always called in almost all of Bah-Ogaadeen's armaments to take it to Miirkhaliifo near the Gumcadle Durwa Hararf border.

Beesha Sade is gearing up for historically relevant hostilities implicating Gelinsoor with Sacad and Lahelow with Gumcadle.

There is nothing you can do for each other and even this is counterproductive because it only puts "ficil" in MX.

One would think you would be smarter, but if that were the case, you wouldn't even be having hostilities with Marehan anymore like Saleebaan.
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Meh.
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Manshallah Sacad Makaahiil Absame community :clap:
Btw Makaahiil has 2 Sacad clans. 1 in Qubbi who are said to be the founders of the Walashama Dynasty and the other Sacad clan got lost with HG. The HG Sacad they are originally Ogaden. Welcome back family 8-)
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Gubbet don’t confuse the original Sacad Makaahiil to the current Sacad who became HG. These Sacad are our long lost sons.
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Sacad waa Irir nacala aabihin Ku yaale dad boob baad nagu haysan. Kkkkkkkk. Cawro maleh baanu idiin daynay imikana sacad baad na leedihiin waa cagdheer. Waa hadaanu idinka yeelno. #SacadISnotforsale
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Rebelxx222 wrote: Fri May 26, 2023 5:54 am Manshallah Sacad Makaahiil Absame community :clap:
Btw Makaahiil has 2 Sacad clans. 1 in Qubbi who are said to be the founders of the Walashama Dynasty and the other Sacad clan got lost with HG. The HG Sacad they are originally Ogaden. Welcome back family 8-)
Both 2 Sacad communities have long ago been reinstituted as 1 laf amongst the Sacads in Somalia, by example aniga im the Sacad from Wardheere under Makahiil, almost half of Sacad lafs are from there, even the Sacad MPs is shared like that.
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Hadii "shirka wada tashiga" lagu xumeynayo qabiil soomaaliyeed, ilaahey ha fashilo, laakiin hadii wanaag looga talinayo, all the best.
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theyuusuf143 wrote: Fri May 26, 2023 6:15 am Sacad waa Irir nacala aabihin Ku yaale dad boob baad nagu haysan. Kkkkkkkk. Cawro maleh baanu idiin daynay imikana sacad baad na leedihiin waa cagdheer. Waa hadaanu idinka yeelno. #SacadISnotforsale
Politically it's every men for himself, alliances are made for ones to reach its interests, just as you call yourselves Reer Qureish Arab or sometimes Irir Samaale that showes that different alliances serves us just as every other isbaheysi serves our interests.

As for us Sacads we know our lineage and where our interests lies and that is an prosperous Galmudug that Sacad have successfully created, this huge state will in the future be it's own country insha'Allahi, no bad for 1 laf called Sacad who created Galmudug.
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barbarossa wrote: Fri May 26, 2023 7:03 am Hadii "shirka wada tashiga" lagu xumeynayo qabiil soomaaliyeed, ilaahey ha fashilo, laakiin hadii wanaag looga talinayo, all the best.
Sacad the Hawiye isn't even the problem. Waa iska Suufi reerkaan like Kees's innocence on display.

100% of the time if you see this random topic implicated---it means 'Gumcadle' (almost 95% Ismaaciil Gumcadle) started nonsense with Marehan/Bah Ogaadeen particularly "Reer Dalal" and fear the consequences.

Just right this week as of 2 days ago, Rer Dalal got done telling Ismaaciil Gumcadle they 'restarted' conflict.

And what do you see...

To he honest I understand Gumcadle, what I don't understand is the Sacad HW. For a clan with their leadership history from Abdullahi Ciise to Gen Caydiid, the Sacad alive today minda dadkii hore wax kama noola. War dagaalada miyeey ku wada le'deen? Waa yaab the level of order, strategy, raganimmo, tallo, iyo go'aan the Saleebaan who were all sheep herders in 1999 today display and the regression by Sacad. Waa headless chickens hadba cida doonto wadan karto. Waa yaab.
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Kees70 wrote: Fri May 26, 2023 7:09 am
theyuusuf143 wrote: Fri May 26, 2023 6:15 am Sacad waa Irir nacala aabihin Ku yaale dad boob baad nagu haysan. Kkkkkkkk. Cawro maleh baanu idiin daynay imikana sacad baad na leedihiin waa cagdheer. Waa hadaanu idinka yeelno. #SacadISnotforsale
Politically it's every men for himself, alliances are made for ones to reach its interests, just as you call yourselves Reer Qureish Arab or sometimes Irir Samaale that showes that different alliances serves us just as every other isbaheysi serves our interests.

As for us Sacads we know our lineage and where our interests lies and that is an prosperous Galmudug that Sacad have successfully created, this huge state will in the future be it's own country insha'Allahi, no bad for 1 laf called Sacad who created Galmudug.

Makaahiil iyo iyo sacadaw hada ma xin mareexaan baad u midawden. Ninkii gubbet ahaa waakaa didsane. Sidaa bababrosa sheegay. Masiibo ilaahay haydinku Ku rido hadaad mareexaan u tashaten. :lol:
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theyuusuf143 wrote: Fri May 26, 2023 9:10 am
Kees70 wrote: Fri May 26, 2023 7:09 am
theyuusuf143 wrote: Fri May 26, 2023 6:15 am Sacad waa Irir nacala aabihin Ku yaale dad boob baad nagu haysan. Kkkkkkkk. Cawro maleh baanu idiin daynay imikana sacad baad na leedihiin waa cagdheer. Waa hadaanu idinka yeelno. #SacadISnotforsale
Politically it's every men for himself, alliances are made for ones to reach its interests, just as you call yourselves Reer Qureish Arab or sometimes Irir Samaale that showes that different alliances serves us just as every other isbaheysi serves our interests.

As for us Sacads we know our lineage and where our interests lies and that is an prosperous Galmudug that Sacad have successfully created, this huge state will in the future be it's own country insha'Allahi, no bad for 1 laf called Sacad who created Galmudug.

Makaahiil iyo iyo sacadaw hada ma xin mareexaan baad u midawden. Ninkii gubbet ahaa waakaa didsane. Sidaa bababrosa sheegay. Masiibo ilaahay haydinku Ku rido hadaad mareexaan u tashaten. :lol:
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Kees,

There are only 3 Darod clans that should concern you;

-Marehan
-Majerten
-Layl Kase

Those three in no particular order xataa I will say as they all equally could be relevant to some aspect of your business.

Do you see Marehan in clan sit downs with Wacaysele and Murursade even Saruur who are HG?

Imagine then Murursade using Marehan to ignite hostilities on the back of Cayr as a neighbor to them as a strategy for their own hostilities with Cayr at Ceelbuur?

That's how Gumcadle has played you not that it has ever really mattered to MX or achieved anything against them. (You only fight Wagardhac and they only fight Reer Diini/bah-Ogaden or Reer Cusmaan).

The relationship between Sacad and MX is very, very, very cold today and I will even tell you any day now I am expecting serious fireworks. Sacad is like a big little village meaning you are cosplaying/pretend acting you are Aideed hosting talks with the UN Secretary General when your priorities today should be about saving your humble roof from catching fire. It is really "unfocused" even ", decadent." These types of implications for you is like the heir of the deposed Shah of Iran from decades ago traveling around and to Israel even as the current Shah. Salebasn is today grazing between Cadaado to Labagale ka waran where they lost 30 young boys before fleeing and they are grazing without even even asking MX. MX who opposed them being at Labagale to the tune of dozens of humans followed by decisive victory today offered Saleebaan the rights to graze there and they did it willing and even entirely from a place of good faith. Because they appreciated the maturity, goaan, raganimo, and desire Saleebaan ahowed. People will treat someone with respect when they see them implicating it. This nonsense does not make anyone respect your conduct. It inspires desire to treat you to a can of whoop a.... :lol:

Ilaahay amarkiis mucjisada reerkaan Gumcadle waxeey tahay during even that same clash between Saleebaan and Wagardhac at Labagale just talked about, they chose that exact moment to attack Fadhigaradle then. God knows what happened to them. It was even the first significant livestock rustling by Marehan in 80 years with camels and goats around Caleen taken as 'booty' and 30 year old berkads they built between Caleen and Fadhigaradle seized after they were defeated. Conflict btw Hawiye and MX kicking off has always been their moment for attacking us from back.

The war 'booty' then;




Mire Iro of Gumcadle one of their biggest social speakers declaring last week conflict had restarted between Makaahiil and Reer Dalal/Rer Cusmaan;

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So yes, this is not 'random.'
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