The "Gentleman's Agreement" that was forming btw Marehan & Harti re: Darod "Somalia"---before even NCC betrayal.

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The "Gentleman's Agreement" that was forming btw Marehan & Harti re: Darod "Somalia"---before even NCC betrayal.

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Before the year is out, I expect a seriously affirmed, elucidated, well argued and defined, "common sets of principles" about what implicates Darod "Somalia" foundationally at the national level.

Something has changed. It is not even difficult to explain, but almost no one really understands substantively at the base what caused it.

The following earlier thoughts somewhat attempted to explain it and so I will repost it;
Murax-

If the fight against Muuse Biixi ever goes wrong, the only people Majeerteen expect to get help from---the ONLY people Majeerteen 100% believe will be their only lifeline--is Marehan. They will implicate the "Darod" name, use "Kablalax" against MX, they will even in that moment send ergo to both MX and OG, but every single Majerten 15 year old, forget their 50 year old, knows if it came to that point, it is either MX will come to them or they will perish. Wallahi.

Majerten dhaqluu ku jiray.

Look @ the way Yusuf is talking.

There was a sleeping, Irir giant that was dormant now interested in nothing but interfering in Somalia not even against "Darod" per see or even MJ but "Mohamuud Saleebaan."

That's with the Irir giant towards Mogadishu who seems to despise MJ more viciously and purposefully than even the MX of Darod or anyone else who daily sheds their blood.

MJ dhaqluu ku jiray and the absolutely selfishly unbothered and starkly "alien" stranger Madoobe has shown himself to be after what they did for him particularly when they have had to reface a long reality had sobered their political elite more than even their own layman know.

For the truth is "OG" in Somalia is like Digil and Mirifle in Irir v "Darod."

He is a "spectator."

OG is a "nominal" Darod where "Somalia" is concerned.

Mogadishu doesn't concern him, Mudug doesn't concern him, SSC and Hargeisa doesn't concern him, Gaalkacyo and Gelaadi grazing doesn't concern him, in fact HG, Hiraab, HAG, Isaaq, Irir bordering them, national equity infringements in Somalia btw Irir-Darod---none of that fundamentally concerns him whereas the Marehan boy near Nageyle on the Liibaan plains and the MJ boy in Baargaal looking down on Indian Ocean and the Dhulbahante boy in Widhwidh looking across the Cayn valley all equally and sharply look up and think the same thing whether the Hawiye on the coastal plains at Dhusamareb or the Isaaq at Caynabo are brought up and all equally internalize that border with Hawiye at Dhusamareb or that border with Isaaq at Caynaba is "their" border as Darod Somalia.

It is even not surprising that Cumar Jees and SPM were the ones who betrayed Darod in 1991 to "switch" to Caydiid.

Such a luxury.

Do you think Marehan could just frivolously "jump" to switch to Caydiid or Irir in 1991? Could the Majerteen? Could the Dhulbahante?


Cumar Jees didn't matter to Darod vs Irir in Somalia. His decision was HIM stating that! The whole fight was a 'video game' to him, even play acting. He had nothing substantively at stake. It was ''political' theatrics.

The Marehan was fighting for his home, his grazing, his life. The MJ the same. The Dhulbahante the same. They were fighting for Caabudwaaq and Baardheere, Luuq and Balanbale, Garacad and Gaalkacyo, Beyra and Dudub, Buuhoodle and Horufadhi, Xudun and Yagoori
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And so MJ knows if things ever go bad and Muuse gobbles them up, MX will shortly thereafter be gobbled up by Irir.

And so MJ knows MX will come to their aid and they are the only ones whom they can plan for backup in case it were required.

And so there is a very, very, very sober conversation taking place in which there is not just "regret" for what they did in Kismaayo and Madoobe, but acidic "disgust."

The nonsense that has been stated in this topic by the MX laymen, very similar to the MJ laymen, is nothing more than the unaware oo "dhaqlo ku jiro."

There is a very, very, very similarly "sober" conversation taking place in the Marehan elite that is just as evocative and nuanced about the frivolity of the old 'rivalry' btw them and MJ that looks more "childlike" and "juvenile" than anything else.
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Some examples of public opinion on this issue from canvassing social media. Abdirizak Ayub is the commentator known as 'Kaptan Ayub'
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Chief of "Ceel-Waaq MPs" made possible by Madoobe and congratulated by HSM as the only presidential candidate to do so calls their NCC edict "dead on arrival"




Libaax Haduu Hilib Dhexmaro Waysku Maagaane Macmacaanka Iyo Kuruska Waysku Laayaane
Weyse Heshiin Markuu Dhidar* Umuuqdaaye
Inaan Muxubo Ka Maqnayn Waa Mid Kaa Maqane
Waw Miraha Aw Jabarti Iyo Miidaas Haashimehe



*'DHIDAR' /DH-IE-THER/ (noun): a hyena; also known in the Somali language as a 'dhurwaa' or 'waraabe.'
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Adam Aw-Hirsi, former 'Justice Minister' under Madoobe cabal in Kismaayo, current cabinet member under HSM incumbent administration, probably the signal personally uncivil person to President Farmaajo and his most personal detractor who helped make possible both Ceel-Waaq elections as well as top lobbyist for 2nd HSM come back in last elections eerily writes "87 Days #BottomLine" in response to this NCC edict.

'87' days is of course until the end of this August---when Madoobe's current 'term' is considered to expire claiming Jubbaland leadership.

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Mareexaan Dhigiis Laysma Tuso

I am afraid HAG and HSM are looking like they triggered a "kraken."

HSM wanted to be a reincarnated Siad II heralding an HAG 'Kacaan,' but it looks like he there is only Aidid & Salbalaar looking back at him.

The Kacaan is the longest ruling system in Somali history---

---Salbalaar was destroyed before take off.
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Gubbet instead of posting an long thesis in your threads, please tell me what benefits does Marehan bring to the table for this alliance with the Hartis?

As we all know Marehan live in the most obscure irrelevant corners of Somalia, so I wonder what kind of Gentleman agreement can be formed in this alliance you seek with the Hartis, perhaps you meant that Hartis will now favour Marehan over their kablalax brothers Ogadens in Kismaayo, which is highly unlikely.
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Kees70 wrote: Mon May 29, 2023 12:39 am Gubbet instead of posting an long thesis in your threads, please tell me what benefits does Marehan bring to the table for this alliance with the Hartis?

As we all know Marehan live in the most obscure corners of Somalia, so I wonder what kind of Gentleman agreement can be formed in this alliance you seek with the Hartis, perhaps you meant that Hartis will now favour Marehan over their kablalax brothers Ogadens in Kismaayo, which is highly unlikely.
The only important factor in Kismaayo that Madoobe has had going for him materially and consequentially are Kenyan troop presence.

"Obscure." You literally are the 'anus' of Somalia from the Shabelle River to just south of Gaalkacyo on the coastal sandy plains that are the heart of Hiraab. You produce nothing, you have no industry, you have no rivers, farms, or even livestock anymore. You have no relevance to an "economy" the only 'sicir barar' or 'inflation' is something being labeled "degmo-barar" or ballooning of beneficiaries as handout recipients. You are the bum on the street accusing pedestrians of 'uncleanliness.'

As for your answer, here are Harti ergo implicating what is happening within a forming historic Darod 'Somalia' framework/agreement.



There is no alliance or interest based bases for any of this.

MX and Harti want to permanently enshrine they only trust each other to check you. about Darod Somalia equity.
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Gubbet wrote: Mon May 29, 2023 1:05 am
Kees70 wrote: Mon May 29, 2023 12:39 am Gubbet instead of posting an long thesis in your threads, please tell me what benefits does Marehan bring to the table for this alliance with the Hartis?

As we all know Marehan live in the most obscure corners of Somalia, so I wonder what kind of Gentleman agreement can be formed in this alliance you seek with the Hartis, perhaps you meant that Hartis will now favour Marehan over their kablalax brothers Ogadens in Kismaayo, which is highly unlikely.
The only important factor in Kismaayo that Madoobe has had going for him materially and consequentially are Kenyan troop presence.

"Obscure." You literally are the 'anus' of Somalia from the Shabelle River to just south of Gaalkacyo on the coastal sandy plains that are the heart of Hiraab. You produce nothing, you have no industry, you have no rivers, farms, or even livestock anymore. You have no relevance to an "economy" the only 'sicir barar' or 'inflation' is something being labeled "degmo-barar" or ballooning of beneficiaries as handout recipients. You are the bum on the street accusing pedestrians of 'uncleanliness.'

As for your answer, here are Harti ergo implicating what is happening within a forming historic Darod 'Somalia' framework/agreement.



There is no alliance or interest based bases for any of this.

MX and Harti want to permanently enshrine they only trust each other to check you. about Darod Somalia equity.
Ok Gubbet thanks for the reply albeit the calacaal, I do hope the Hartis look kindly to the alliances you so beg from them, although I wouldn't hold my breath on them to even consider you folks worth the look much less an alliance.

Anyhow, good luck sxb screaming for alliances from the wildness.

P,s thanks for the laugh sxb, Mx & Harti alliance :lol:
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Kees70 wrote: Mon May 29, 2023 1:15 am
Gubbet wrote: Mon May 29, 2023 1:05 am
Kees70 wrote: Mon May 29, 2023 12:39 am Gubbet instead of posting an long thesis in your threads, please tell me what benefits does Marehan bring to the table for this alliance with the Hartis?

As we all know Marehan live in the most obscure corners of Somalia, so I wonder what kind of Gentleman agreement can be formed in this alliance you seek with the Hartis, perhaps you meant that Hartis will now favour Marehan over their kablalax brothers Ogadens in Kismaayo, which is highly unlikely.
The only important factor in Kismaayo that Madoobe has had going for him materially and consequentially are Kenyan troop presence.

"Obscure." You literally are the 'anus' of Somalia from the Shabelle River to just south of Gaalkacyo on the coastal sandy plains that are the heart of Hiraab. You produce nothing, you have no industry, you have no rivers, farms, or even livestock anymore. You have no relevance to an "economy" the only 'sicir barar' or 'inflation' is something being labeled "degmo-barar" or ballooning of beneficiaries as handout recipients. You are the bum on the street accusing pedestrians of 'uncleanliness.'

As for your answer, here are Harti ergo implicating what is happening within a forming historic Darod 'Somalia' framework/agreement.



There is no alliance or interest based bases for any of this.

MX and Harti want to permanently enshrine they only trust each other to check you. about Darod Somalia equity.
Ok Gubbet thanks for the reply albeit the calacaal, I do hope the Hartis look kindly to the alliances you so beg from them, although I wouldn't hold my breath on them to even consider you folks worth the look much less an alliance.

Anyhow, good luck sxb screaming for alliances from the wildness.

P,s thanks for the laugh sxb, Mx & Harti alliance :lol:
Cackle all you want jackal---you are on the dinner table. :damn:
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Gubbet wrote: Mon May 29, 2023 1:19 am
Kees70 wrote: Mon May 29, 2023 1:15 am
Gubbet wrote: Mon May 29, 2023 1:05 am

The only important factor in Kismaayo that Madoobe has had going for him materially and consequentially are Kenyan troop presence.

"Obscure." You literally are the 'anus' of Somalia from the Shabelle River to just south of Gaalkacyo on the coastal sandy plains that are the heart of Hiraab. You produce nothing, you have no industry, you have no rivers, farms, or even livestock anymore. You have no relevance to an "economy" the only 'sicir barar' or 'inflation' is something being labeled "degmo-barar" or ballooning of beneficiaries as handout recipients. You are the bum on the street accusing pedestrians of 'uncleanliness.'

As for your answer, here are Harti ergo implicating what is happening within a forming historic Darod 'Somalia' framework/agreement.



There is no alliance or interest based bases for any of this.

MX and Harti want to permanently enshrine they only trust each other to check you. about Darod Somalia equity.
Ok Gubbet thanks for the reply albeit the calacaal, I do hope the Hartis look kindly to the alliances you so beg from them, although I wouldn't hold my breath on them to even consider you folks worth the look much less an alliance.

Anyhow, good luck sxb screaming for alliances from the wildness.

P,s thanks for the laugh sxb, Mx & Harti alliance :lol:
Cackle all you want jackal---you are on the dinner table. :damn:

It's good to dream sxb :pac:
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It was a joke, now butt out Kees. I don't interfere in your Hawiye in-group discussions. Rag dhexdood tashanaya ceeb maaha loomana dhawaado oo waxaasu waa gunnimo.
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Gubbet wrote: Mon May 29, 2023 2:10 am It was a joke, now butt out Kees. I don't interfere in your Hawiye in-group discussions. Rag dhexdood tashanaya ceeb maaha loomana dhawaado oo waxaasu waa gunnimo.
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It really truly was a joke. FYI.
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Gubbet wrote: Mon May 29, 2023 2:32 am It really truly was a joke. FYI.
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Runti the only true alliance for Mx historically were always HGs.

Just look at how GM VP is treated compared to JL VP.
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Even if you put together all your power including the cagdheer you cant much the Irir alliance. It's absolutely impossible. And the More you attack culusaw and muuse biixi the more Irir Will grow stronger. Majority of culusaw biixi supporters are Irirists .

Irir is really really bad for daarood. Xisbiyadan la leeyahay waa la samaynaya marka la sameeyo bay idiinku sii daran tahay. Sanadkii ilaahay soo Godaba hawiyaanu u codaynayna, daarod heer waxaanu gaadhsiinayna ay yidhaahdaan dirku soomali maahee golaha halaga saaro. Wixii majeerteen diidaanba anaga saxeexayna , :lol:

macaal dayn cafinta , dawlada somaliland way taageersantahay. Daynta cusube ee lasoo qaadayana qaybtayaadaanu boobayna . High wayga burco to hargeisa , egal airport terminal iyo mashriic badan baanu soo qoraynanayna. Adigu isku soo xooriyoo horgalayal hawiye inaanu noqono baa noo qorshaysan. Mareexanaw idinku horgalayaal majeerteen inaad noqotaan diyaar ma u tihiin :lol:
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All this calaacal just because Hawiye made ogaden the pm lol
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