This is the 1st time I think beesha Hawiye truly & starkly realizes the gravity of Mogadishu unresolved injustice.

[Gubbet]

Sambaloolshe gets up and makes wise crackery about "HAG should lead Somalia because HAG has Mogadishu."

Mahad Salaad goes and donates camels to Badbaado Qaran with "1991" written on it.

In the middle of their protest with main Madasha group there, their crowd hype man starts screaming "Farmaajo waa Mareexaan" and the crowd starts chanting it;



What ties all these things together?

• HAG has Mogadishu = Darod was expelled from Mogadishu
• 1991 = The year Darod Somalis were forced from their homes
• Farmaajo waa Mareexaan= Mareexaan is Darood so Farmaajo doesn't belong in Mogadishu

Yet, Farmaajo was born in Mogadishu before Siad Barre's government. His father was a businessman and owned their property before the Kacaan narrative. He grew up in Waberi. He is "ciyaalka xaafadda."

So implicated in injustice, these people never even stopped for a second to realize "my God, this is the worst expression of injustice possible, I wonder what must the targets of this injustice possibly be thinking about
it..."

Wax baa "bakh" yiri after they finally got an opportunity to see what they thought about it.

[Gubbet]

Somalia needs a Truth and Reconciliation Commission.

I think that is clear to me as daylight.

We are all an injured group of people. We need closure.

[theyuusuf143]

I don't think we need reconciliation, let everyone seek his own soulmate. Reconciliation between HG and your community is a waste of time, it won't work, but you can reconcile with MJ or cagdheer if you want. Ninka aan tolkii la heshiin somalida kalena waxba Ku kordhin maayo. Charity begins at home.

[Nomand]

Fatman deni financed "farmaajo waa mareexaan" chant then founded the badbaado qaran movement. So this darod narrative is bullshit.

What unites all these laangaabs is when the oppose marehan.

[Gubbet]

Fatman deni financed "farmaajo waa mareexaan" chant then founded the badbaado qaran movement. So this darod narrative is bullshit.

What unites all these laangaabs is when the oppose marehan.

Nomand, walal don't take this the wrong way because I say it without any emotionality at all---even if 98% of society were to reach agreement on something that moves the country beyond an assue just like every other society on earth, there are about 2% of society (maybe 5% even) that are default vetos. Nothing that I have ever observed of your shared thoughts have implicated that you are prepared to move "forward" on practically any issue that I have seen in existence socio-politically concerning Marehan. Wallahi if I said otherwise, I would be lying to you. I am not even criticizing it, I am stating it. I don't even think crticism would change anything so it would be irrelevant. This is a "perspectives" issue because you "see" things differently.

[Nomand]

What about the points I made. Are they wrong? Why hold culusow accountable for "farmaajo waa mareexaan" and absolve and try to whitewash deni's involvement. When he funded the whole thing.

Deni also the only man to question mareexaan kids getting high grades in exams. No hutu politician of caliber even went close to that.

So why support one enemy over another? When a smart person would stoke the fire inorder to position themselves in a better political situation. Aka how madoobe survived for 12 years.

But the truth of the matter is both their sugar daddy UAE will either bring them together or further stoke the fire to make sure somalia never recovers either way you need to look out for your interest.

Let your two enemies fight each other bloody and watch the show.

[Gubbet]

Deni has nothing to do with "Farmaajo waa Mareexaan" just like you have consistently said "Deni armed Galmudug HG to attack Mareexaan."

Really Nomand, points? They are not even allegations substantively as allegations at least lean on something situating it whatever it is.

They are "conspiracy theories" Nomand like my saying Saadaq John was "under cover" except I did not actually believe he was undercover but knowing how closely they followed my writing since my prediction regarding who would win both Galmudug Pres & VP, I was doing what I can, if anything really, to at least try sowing discord among them & help Farmaajo.

But really, I can even expect the Deni position.

Deni was a nefarious political hack who was out of control----he didn't make and he has not even required for HAG to chant "Farmaajo waa Mareexaan" or take MX lives.

Do you have any proof or something implicating evidence of any kind that I can look at to reconsider my doubt?

[Murax]

Okay sure maybe Deni himself may not have been directly responsible for Farmaajo was Marexaan chant in Mogadishu but does that matter? This reminds me of those court cases where someone has been found guilty of 200 counts of the most heinous offenses but one is thrown out leaving all the others leaving them on death row still.



So in essence okay so he wasn’t responsible for chants but also agree with Nomand he, and the institution of Puntland (Because he is the face) showed more enmity, hate, Cuqdad to MX than Hawiye ever could.

Deni was more than a nefarious hack, but a true vile enemy.

[Murax]

Okay sure maybe Deni himself may not have been directly responsible for Farmaajo was Marexaan chant in Mogadishu but does that matter? This reminds me of those court cases where someone has been found guilty of 200 counts of the most heinous offenses but one minor one has is thrown out leaving all the others leaving them on death row still.



So in essence okay so he wasn’t responsible for chants but also agree with Nomand he, and the institution of Puntland (Because he is the face) showed more enmity, hate, Cuqdad to MX than Hawiye ever could.

Deni was more than a nefarious hack, but a true vile enemy.

[Gubbet]

As for your question

So why support one enemy over another? When a smart person would stoke the fire inorder to position themselves in a better political situation. Aka how madoobe survived for 12 years.

Yaa salaam! Yaa salaam, ya salaam!

Madoobe is like going to a water well (ceel) and with a water holding contraption (haan, pail, bucket, whatever) with a gigantic hole in the bottom trying to fill your contraption up.

You will sit there all day and even night if you haven't already left without water.

Madoobe is my very definition of everything I see as loss.

Do you know what the lowest stage in development is?

Survival.

It is the lowest stage of existence.

Survival -> Vulnerable-> Stability -> Security -> Assurance

Puntland is at #3 Stability.

Madoobe Jubbaland is at #1.
.
Madoobe was supposed to have passed #1 during his 1st term.

Abdullahi Yusuf is today Father of a Nation---Puntland. He is George Washington.

Madoobe is the British Governor General during the Colonial US.

He is the definition of "khaatumo xumo." His very seat holding is like that bottomless 🪣. He is the definition of failure.

[Gubbet]

Deni was more than a nefarious hack, but a true vile enemy.

I agree.

But what is his relevance to this topic for Nomand to have imposed him in it?

Is Deni the man who expelled and then disenfrenchised, appropriating millions of Darod from their equity in Mogadishu???

[Murax]

Gubbet,

No absolutely not. In terms of that no foul. This is coming from someone who if I told you the amount of equity in the name of HAGnimo you wouldn’t believe me. I say all that to say F Xamar, as a MX my focus is from Doolow to Kismaayo. To me Culusow is USC, and today is 1991. With that being the case under the current structure the President is mayor of Benadir shughul ku malaha the Federal States. Alhamdulilah we have independence in Gedo next step is independence for rest of Jubbaland which takes all my focus. Hawiye could Unuka Leh Xamar all they want.

[AbkoowDhiblaawe]

Gubbet,

No absolutely not. In terms of that no foul. This is coming from someone who if I told you the amount of equity in the name of HAGnimo you wouldn’t believe me. I say all that to say F Xamar, as a MX my focus is from Doolow to Kismaayo. To me Culusow is USC, and today is 1991. With that being the case under the current structure the President is mayor of Benadir shughul ku malaha the Federal States. Alhamdulilah we have independence in Gedo next step is independence for rest of Jubbaland which takes all my focus. Hawiye could Unuka Leh Xamar all they want.

Smart man. Your a realist compared to Gubbet who only sees things from his own perspective he talks about lost equity from his own community. But never the things that led to "Daarod getting expelled"....

[Murax]

Gubbet,

No absolutely not. In terms of that no foul. This is coming from someone who if I told you the amount of equity in the name of HAGnimo you wouldn’t believe me. I say all that to say F Xamar, as a MX my focus is from Doolow to Kismaayo. To me Culusow is USC, and today is 1991. With that being the case under the current structure the President is mayor of Benadir shughul ku malaha the Federal States. Alhamdulilah we have independence in Gedo next step is independence for rest of Jubbaland which takes all my focus. Hawiye could Unuka Leh Xamar all they want.

Smart man. Your a realist compared to Gubbet who only sees things from his own perspective he talks about lost equity from his own community. But never the things that led to "Daarod getting expelled"....

Darood were expelled because of Dulmi, Xaqdarro, and Qablaayad. Culusow orginized Farmaajo was Marexaan protests due to mooryanimo qablaayad. Gubbet is 100% right from the morality standpoint in my opinion but the difference is he believes there is a way for this to be rectified while I don’t. I’ve made my peace F Xamar.

[Kees70]

Nobody gives a fock about so called injustices done on the daroods, in Somalia you fock with HGs than don't cry about injustices later.

This mj oday understands the whole gameplan that Farmaajo was supposed to play in Somalia instead of antagonizing HGs that was being ordered by his handler that super langaab landless 0.5 aw xasan Fahad yasiin.

You fock with fire than don't cry about being burned, as simple as that.

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