Lower Shabelle won't end today, this month, this year. It will be 2 generations before 'Hawiye' (4.5 group) surrenders.

[Gubbet]

Mogadishu was lost to Darod 4.5 group the same day Lower Shabelle was lost to Hawiye 4.5 group. S


The destination is the same; it doesn't matter how long or many detours until you get there.

Even a Hawiye President signing 3 States of Southwest including Lower Shabelle was inevitable and it is predictable regarding trajectory.

Lower Shabelle = Somalia's "real" Kashmir or part Pakistani, legally Indian. It is Bosnia's Srpska Republika part Serb, legally Bosnia. It is Guantanamo Bay, part America, legally Cuban.

It is even like Crimea and the Donbas, part Russian, legally Ukraine.

Jubbaland and Kismaayo is finished. It is settled. It is Darod.

Mogadishu is finished. It is settled. It is Hawiye.

Lower Shabelle will be Digil and Mirifle and is in fact Digil and Mirifle---

---but it is not finished nor settled and it will not be easily or quickly.

If the war since modern Somalia has been Darod vs. Hawiye.

The war in post-modern Somalia will be Hawiye vs Digila and Mirifle + Others + southern Dir.

Write this down and save it.

Both sides will be competing heavily for Darod support and to a much lesser extent, Isaaq support.

The Civil War of Somalia has now finally transitioned to what I outlined years ago---

The War Between the Rivers.

HAG and Hassan Sheekh hate us because we succeeded in fertilizing the Reewin Sultan shockingly and incomparably.

And we did it because they dared to legitimize Interim Jubba Authority in 2013.

Actions Have Consequences.

[Kees70]

Who cares, focus on your gedo being divided up and conquered by the ogadens.

S/hoose is not gedo.

[Gubbet]

Who cares, focus on your gedo being divided up and conquered by the ogadens.

Kees, keep your anger in check and do not impose it on people expressing their thoughts.

[ReturnOfMariixmaan]

Mogadishu was lost to Darod 4.5 group the same day Lower Shabelle was lost to Hawiye 4.5 group. S


The destination is the same; it doesn't matter how long or many detours until you get there.

Even a Hawiye President signing 3 States of Southwest including Lower Shabelle was inevitable and it is predictable regarding trajectory.

Lower Shabelle = Somalia's "real" Kashmir or part Pakistani, legally Indian. It is Bosnia's Srpska Republika part Serb, legally Bosnia. It is Guantanamo Bay, part America, legally Cuban.

It is even like Crimea and the Donbas, part Russian, legally Ukraine.

Jubbaland and Kismaayo is finished. It is settled. It is Darod.

Mogadishu is finished. It is settled. It is Hawiye.

Lower Shabelle will be Digil and Mirifle and is in fact Digil and Mirifle---

---but it is not finished nor settled and it will not be easily or quickly.

If the war since modern Somalia has been Darod vs. Hawiye.

The war in post-modern Somalia will be Hawiye vs Digila and Mirifle + Others + southern Dir.

Write this down and save it.

Both sides will be competing heavily for Darod support and to a much lesser extent, Isaaq support.

The Civil War of Somalia has now finally transitioned to what I outlined years ago---

The War Between the Rivers.

HAG and Hassan Sheekh hate us because we succeeded in fertilizing the Reewin Sultan shockingly and incomparably.

And we did it because they dared to legitimize Interim Jubba Authority in 2013.

Actions Have Consequences.

Rag tag lama dhago ee wuxuu ku tago ayaa la tusiya.

[GuleedWarsame]

This just naked robbery of the port city and control of the oil rich blocks outside Barawe. Rer Gedo should support reer Barawe and SouthWest State in any capacity. South West people is our people and our neighbours and injustice like this cant be accepted.

[theyuusuf143]

1 day haduu hawiye Kala saaro alla Ka cabsiga iyo rag iska celinta iga walaanu nafar raxanwayn ahi shabeelaha hoose Ku hadhayn, dhamaantood xeryaha qaxoontigay u yaacayan. Eeelaygu gebigiisuba badar buu u mool yahay. Shabeelaha hoose waa Dhul biyomaal iyo hawiye , yagaa SNA iyo alshabaab taba xukuma, raxanwayn waa iska adhi ilaahay . afgooye Ilaa iyo kismayo dusheeda anaga iska leh.

[grandpakhalif]

Rahanweyn Manifesto has begun they will no longer be bullied by USC

[theyuusuf143]

They will no longer claim shabeele , in fact shabeele and half of jubaland will be an independent federal state , bal ninkii shabeele state hor istaagi kara hala arko. Dadka masaakinta ah mareexaanaw ha waalina walaalayal.

[theyuusuf143]

They will no longer claim shabeele , in fact shabeele and half of jubaland will be an independent federal state , bal ninkii shabeele state hor istaagi kara hala arko. Dadka masaakinta ah mareexaanaw ha waalina walaalayal.

[AbkoowDhiblaawe]

I noticed Gubbet writes fictions based on what he wishes.

[GuleedWarsame]

[SadSayyid]

While I don't support dulmi I do not think Darod should be this pro-RX in this conflict.

If any Marehan has the time you should go watch the Shantasoomaaliya1 guy and his views on Marehan. He was calaacaling about Konfuur Galbeed having a Marehan general a few months ago as well.

I remember he even said once he would support Hawiye in their (re-)conquest of MJ land (Mudug), just leave RX alone.

One of the disagreements I've had with your analysis on our relations with Rahanweyn is the nature of their support for MX. When that female MP was speaking out against the El-Waaq MP's one of the things she said was "these lands were once ruled from Baidoa" (I'm paraphrasing, it was a while ago). They haven't given up on the 6 star flag.

I support them in their actions of self-defense, I don't think we should go further than that. They don't just claim the lands between the rivers but Garbaharey, Beled Xaawo, Doolow and Afmadow.

Our beef with HG is one of livelihood. If HG were offered a path of co-existence he would take it. HG has no choice but to fight for water and grazing. RX would not take that deal and would deal with us in the same way the Han Chinese dealt with their nomadic civilisational adversaries like the Xiognu.

The Rahanweyn are in for a tough time, HG even claim Jilib. The more HG born in Afgooye and Merka the better it is for me. Let them all go south.

[GuleedWarsame]

While I don't support dulmi I do not think Darod should be this pro-RX in this conflict.

If any Marehan has the time you should go watch the Shantasoomaaliya1 guy and his views on Marehan. He was calaacaling about Konfuur Galbeed having a Marehan general a few months ago as well.

I remember he even said once he would support Hawiye in their (re-)conquest of MJ land (Mudug), just leave RX alone.

One of the disagreements I've had with your analysis on our relations with Rahanweyn is the nature of their support for MX. When that female MP was speaking out against the El-Waaq MP's one of the things she said was "these lands were once ruled from Baidoa" (I'm paraphrasing, it was a while ago). They haven't given up on the 6 star flag.

I support them in their actions of self-defense, I don't think we should go further than that. They don't just claim the lands between the rivers but Garbaharey, Beled Xaawo, Doolow and Afmadow.

Our beef with HG is one of livelihood. If HG were offered a path of co-existence he would take it. HG has no choice but to fight for water and grazing. RX would not take that deal and would deal with us in the same way the Han Chinese dealt with their nomadic civilisational adversaries like the Xiognu.

The Rahanweyn are in for a tough time, HG even claim Jilib. The more HG born in Afgooye and Merka the better it is for me. Let them all go south.

You are probably not from Gedo and does not understand the fact that Rahanweyn have historical rights in Gedo, and they live peacefully there now from the royalty Gasarguude in Luuq to Macalinweyne in Baardhere and gabaweyn. One of the lessons learned in Gedo is that being from that place is a mindset. It does not matter if you are Sade Mareexaan or Rahanweyn or Dir or any other clan. The simple fact that you are from Gedo makes you closer to me than someone from hundreds of miles away that does not care for the region or soil or its improvement it is an identity of its own. You are stuck on the Darood/Hawiye operative system and if we analys that fairly we can say that Darood politicians have done more damage to Gedo than any other block. Level up from this primitive mindset saaxib, also I dont think a 6 star Jubbaland would have done Gedo dirty like Madoobes jubbaland either for the record.

[Gubbet]

While I don't support dulmi I do not think Darod should be this pro-RX in this conflict.

If any Marehan has the time you should go watch the Shantasoomaaliya1 guy and his views on Marehan. He was calaacaling about Konfuur Galbeed having a Marehan general a few months ago as well.

I remember he even said once he would support Hawiye in their (re-)conquest of MJ land (Mudug), just leave RX alone.

One of the disagreements I've had with your analysis on our relations with Rahanweyn is the nature of their support for MX. When that female MP was speaking out against the El-Waaq MP's one of the things she said was "these lands were once ruled from Baidoa" (I'm paraphrasing, it was a while ago). They haven't given up on the 6 star flag.

I support them in their actions of self-defense, I don't think we should go further than that. They don't just claim the lands between the rivers but Garbaharey, Beled Xaawo, Doolow and Afmadow.

Our beef with HG is one of livelihood. If HG were offered a path of co-existence he would take it. HG has no choice but to fight for water and grazing. RX would not take that deal and would deal with us in the same way the Han Chinese dealt with their nomadic civilisational adversaries like the Xiognu.

The Rahanweyn are in for a tough time, HG even claim Jilib. The more HG born in Afgooye and Merka the better it is for me. Let them all go south.

If you had read the trajectory of my evolution on Rahanweyn and Gedo and, let alone Jubbaland you would have realized I am one of the most critical MX people you will ever find about MX's unfulfilled inability to yet realize the most perfect aspiration of justice he can implicate under his control and authority particularly in the 3 districts of Ceel-Waaq, Baardheere, and Luuq but generally all over the region "WITHIN" Marehan vertically and "WITH" other Gedo clans/groups who aren't Marehan horizontally.

The absolute foundation of that criticism has been expressed in profound dissent with the unachieved equitable representation due Digil and Mirifle country men, neighbors, and even relatives and friends who live among us, within us, and with us in every district Gedo Region.

You are what you think.

If you think justice justly due another human is a loss to you, than Justice is a nightmare.

But if you internalize the justice of being just towards that human, than Justice is paradise.

[SadSayyid]

You are probably not from Gedo and does not understand the fact that Rahanweyn have historical rights in Gedo, and they live peacefully there now from the royalty Gasarguude in Luuq to Macalinweyne in Baardhere and gabaweyn. One of the lessons learned in Gedo is that being from that place is a mindset. It does not matter if you are Sade Mareexaan or Rahanweyn or Dir or any other clan. The simple fact that you are from Gedo makes you closer to me than someone from hundreds of miles away that does not care for the region or soil or its improvement it is an identity of its own. You are stuck on the Darood/Hawiye operative system and if we analys that fairly we can say that Darood politicians have done more than damage to Gedo than any other block. Level up from this primitive mindset saaxib, also I dont think a 6 star Jubbaland would have done Gedo dirty like Madoobes jubbaland either for the record.

Primitive mindset kulala, ethnic cleansing is currently taking place all over the HOA. From Sudan, through Ethiopia all the way Somalia. From Eritrea all the way down to South Sudan. It's your mindset that needs changing here. This culture of identity based on deegan and not qabiil no longer exists in Somalia.

I'm not from Gedo, I was born in Europe. I do not know what this "Gedo mindset" is but insha'allah I'll live to see it.

I'm not going after peaceful RX in Luuq or Baardheere. l'm explaining that supporting RX consolidate Lower Shabelle has nothing to do with us. These were the same people who were fighting for Kismaayo not that long ago. They still claim it today.

"There are no permament friends or permanent allies, only permament interest". What you want and what they want are not the same. They do not claim the ex Geledi Sultanate-Jubaland 1926 border but all of Jubaland. I'm not talking about their rights to Luuq or Baardheere.