Let's recall in 1850, Burton identified Marehan as Harar community; not Ise, Samaron, Dir, nor even Isaq or OG, but MX.

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Let's recall in 1850, Burton identified Marehan as Harar community; not Ise, Samaron, Dir, nor even Isaq or OG, but MX.

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Richard Burton was the first modern European to access Harar as we all know. So it is fascinating to see some folks' love of resorting to Marehan and Harar settlement in the modern era as a way of disputing Marehan history when HISTORY RECORDS IN THE PEN OF RICHARD BURTON HIMSELF HIS EYES OBSERVING MAREHAN AS A COMMUNITY OF HARAR AS LATE AS 1850!

Marehan has been a migrating clan. We know that. Just yesterday they were in Warder, today they are in Luuq. So this context of Marehan migration should not even have to be brought up establishing on its own the irrelevance of where Marehan might have been as a point of contention.

What is so interesting about Burton's observation regarding Harar is he does not identify Ciise, Gudabiirsi, Dir, nor even does he identify Isaaq, nor Habar Awal (hi Khalid), nor Ogaden, etc as communities of Harar.

Harar was a small city-state Emirate by the time Burton was there and famously closed off and reclusive. The city state occupied a number of Hills in which all the folks settled inside the city at night barring the gates. During morning prayer, the gates were opened and the people of Harar trailed out to their fields, livelihood, or went about their trade connecting with the trade lines.

Marehan not only lived in Harar but by 1850 were still relevant enough there to be identified as a "community" among Harar Emirate communities of Somali background.

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By the time Burton was walking there obviously Marehan were already partly on the Jubba River, as he identifies himself, so it is hugely important that he documented Marehan still had residual leftover in Harar of a continuing community by 1850 who, as he says, were in "defense agreement" with the most powerful of their next of Darod kin (Geri Koombe). These two points are hugely important reinforcing the connective continuance of a long trajectory relevant to the storyline of Marehan and Harar famously situated of course by the records of the Futuh Al Habasha/Conquest of Abyssinia.

There is an historically continuing complimentation to this past as even right now in this very era, UNHCR records establish the confirmation of residual Marehan "vestigial" communities in the Jigjiga-Harar area identified @ Kebri Bayah.


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Re: Let's recall in 1850, Burton identified Marehan as Harar community; not Ise, Samaron, Dir, nor even Isaq or OG, but

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The troll Hangool came here, read this topic, and wrote this subsequently;



That's what you have come down to Hangool?

I would encourage you to go back to activating for the well-being of the communities you allegedly care about considering they truly do have need of advocacy in these times.

Karanle requires allies helping defend the serious attacks on their lives, properties, and livelihood as a community that has been under very real and serious threats for over a decade now.

They do not need people working against their interests, superficially trolling displaying "going down the rabbit hole" social media pathologies sullying their name to potential allies and supporters.

It is also a disservice to yourself that you are now at the point of irrelevantly trolling.

Yazak. Yazakler.
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Re: Let's recall in 1850, Burton identified Marehan as Harar community; not Ise, Samaron, Dir, nor even Isaq or OG, but

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You see, that's exactly how it works. I knew you were reading and I have noticed for some time anytime I allude to Karanle "deserving" of support and display even fellowship/sympathy/concern towards them (as that is what I feel towards them) you get more psycho-emotionally discombobulated even resentful.

I have thought for a while now you were most likely not Karanle but of the "Oromo" perspective. I just couldn't decide if you were a northern assimilated Oromo in northern Somali group (a Qotti) or if you were really a very Somalized multi-identity hybrid Oromo who chose Oromo loyalties.

I would most likely point to the earlier barring any evidence against it from this point out.

Your Amir Nur nonsense is so fantastically irrelevant I only need to point out that no, Karanle and Gudabirsi do not claim Nur and Nur is not a claim of any others. Nur is understood universally to be of Marehan disposition. I would wager even your "reason" for wasting time making up non-existent claims probably results from my topic long ago in which I said Nur is not even like Ahmed Gurey because "only" Marehan identifies him as kin. I know how these things work. ;)

My piece of advice to affiliated readership: Simply identify this individual's most likely reason for this behavioral malacculturation exhibited and categorically state he is probably"not" Karanle going by the evidence.

The reason behind the behavioral malacculturation of course being low-level ethnic resentment evinced through "subversion."


Hangool person is most likely of a background similar to, if not of, either Afran Qallo and/or Jaarso Oromo base with Somali hybridity features.

They are not Karanle is my humble opinion.
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