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If the current politicians don't agree nuux baasto and dabagale must step in and put muse biixi in house arrest. They have to dismantle all political parties including the new organisations and develop a New stable system , the army must have this plan in their mind , always. It's easy and effective way to save a nation from stupid Politicians.

I dont think the army institution is mature enough to be able to stand alone as a single organ without breaking down into tribal segments when the politicians pull the tribal card. Muse needs to go but how and who replaces him is the million dollar question.

Biixi is a result of deep problems, to get rid of men like biixi you got to do few things including not doing the below points.

1- tribal politics
2- cultural disposition to corruption
3- culture of never asking questions/ calling people who ask hard needed question an enemy or faqash etc
4- holding your leadership (political, tribal or religious) accountable
5- using emotions to make decisions


Biixi is just a product of his environment, we all knew he was a mooryan from day 1.

Can someone tell me what brought Yusuf to this stage?

Trust me guys, this is no poking fun. We have about 1 month before we see Marehan hanging a couple of Marehan "leaders" in the middle of Gedo streets and Jubbaland.

Somalis seem to be cursed in the form of "leadership."

What these emotional qabiil-crazed ciyaal qaldaamiin fail to realize, is that Muuse Biixi is a war time president, and that very fact alone entitles him to have his term extended indefinitely.

skywalker25 wrote: Tue Jul 18, 2023 5:37 am I dont think the army institution is mature enough to be able to stand alone as a single organ without breaking down into tribal segments when the politicians pull the tribal card. Muse needs to go but how and who replaces him is the million dollar question.

I think you are under estimating the capabilities of our armed forces. First and foremost these Politicians are broke they don't have the financial capacity to form their own militias . And our clans are already disarmed. If taani backs up his son dabagale to be in charge of the military council , all habro Will bow down before him including his agitated habar. We have to first understand our main issue is tolkeen garxajis oo yara haraaday fursado badana iska beer darreeyey, muusena wuu la yara meeraystay. Intan hadaynu xalino dhibaato kale ma jirto. Cudurkan habarjeclo ba wuu kusoo dhacay. Laakiin samir baynu kusoo dhaafnay. Yagana waa inaynu Ka dawayno oo ay markooda shaashada iska arkaan.

Ciidamada qalabka sidaa haday talada la wareegan , wax iska bedelaya hawl maalmeedka dawladu ma jirto, goobaha revenues Ku kasoo baxo uunbay la wareegayan. Keliya waxan kasoo horjeeda inay amarada handaraab si indho la,aana u qaatan. Dalkeena iyo handaraab , labada handaraab baa fudud . Waxan kaadideena baynu usoo cabnay oo kubka iyo bawdada baynu uga soo jabnay. Anigu waxan aaminsanahay in 100% shacabku taageersan yihiin ciidamada.

Gubbet wrote: Tue Jul 18, 2023 9:44 am Can someone tell me what brought Yusuf to this stage?

Trust me guys, this is no poking fun. We have about 1 month before we see Marehan hanging a couple of Marehan "leaders" in the middle of Gedo streets and Jubbaland.

Somalis seem to be cursed in the form of "leadership."

It's hypothetical in case Politicians fail to agree. We have to rely on our army. I always had the vision that our army should have their independent sources of income. They can have their farms, construction companies , import and export companies etc. Any military leader who can't save his country from a little politician is a cuck.

Isaaq waxan usoo jeedinaya , nimanyaw muuse biixi waa eyga miinada let's use him in this war , 18 months Ka la siiyey Aynu la shaqayno oo gumaadno cadawga in his name. Weliba hadaynu beelaha bariga nahay muse biixi is our best president. Ninkani nin naxaya maaha kuu dhaluu front geeyey. Laakiin marku dalkeena kusoo Kala qabto sida condom Ka xoora. Waxan farriintan u diraya isaaq oo dhan oo islaantiisu Ku jirto iyo ilmahiisuba . Cid muuse jecel ma jirto , laakiin waa nayla wasi lahaa hadaanu ey ey dhalay ahayn. Markaynu Ku Dan gaadhno aynu meel daran iyo haadaan Ka tuurno. Waxba yaan la dhibsan joogitaan kiisa.

You gave up. That is what every guy who surrenders after a setback says.

barbarossa wrote: Tue Jul 18, 2023 9:47 am What these emotional qabiil-crazed ciyaal qaldaamiin fail to realize, is that Muuse Biixi is a war time president, and that very fact alone entitles him to have his term extended indefinitely.

ODM test. Passed. We are apes to them no sambo

Thé war is going good the laasscaanood fiasco will be over by October the somaliland army has now fully established in eastern and northern part of laascanood in the next coming days and weeks the central and the hardest part the southern part of laascanood wil also fall. The galbeed part will be the easiest
Today we have lost only 9 soldiers the enemy have lost over 40
There two kaares have been burned to the ground

Thé ururada elections will be held in December
And there will be two isaaq parties and one for darafyada as how it always was nuf and snl and usp in the 1960s

And the presidential elections will be held end 2024

Not sure if biixi is going to run again if he feels like he might but for certain he will pass the torch Abdikarim a young energetic isaaaq garxajis man from an esteemed family of somaliland the the mooges also
What we need to understand interesting time is ahead of us
Oil drilling which is a big project and the rebuild of the sl airforce and a somaliland airliner jet to be established this year and ofcourse the Ictraaf campaign spearheaded by the British parliament end this year things are going well

Khalid Ali wrote: Tue Jul 18, 2023 3:28 pm Thé war is going good the laasscaanood fiasco will be over by October the somaliland army has now fully established in eastern and northern part of laascanood in the next coming days and weeks the central and the hardest part the southern part of laascanood wil also fall. The galbeed part will be the easiest
Today we have lost only 9 soldiers the enemy have lost over 40
There two kaares have been burned to the ground

Thé ururada elections will be held in December
And there will be two isaaq parties and one for darafyada as how it always was nuf and snl and usp in the 1960s

And the presidential elections will be held end 2024

Not sure if biixi is going to run again if he feels like he might but for certain he will pass the torch Abdikarim a young energetic isaaaq garxajis man from an esteemed family of somaliland the the mooges also
What we need to understand interesting time is ahead of us
Oil drilling which is a big project and the rebuild of the sl airforce and a somaliland airliner jet to be established this year and ofcourse the Ictraaf campaign spearheaded by the British parliament end this year things are going well

Are you ok these days dude? I'm concerned about your grasp of reality.

Laas Caanood is gone dude. You never captured it by force to begin with ever in history so it shouldn't even be surprising.

We are clans. You just saw Harti mobilize when you never imagined they would. The entire Darod from Sool to Timbuktu will mobilize if it ever reached the impossible chance that Las Canood could be forcefully captured by you over Harti.

That is not me being a "tribaliist" or expressing "enmity" to you--- that's me reiterating a statement of "fact" regarding Somali people.

Waa yaab to still be under this warmongering delusion.

We are clans. You just saw Harti mobilize when you never imagined they would. The entire Darod from Sool to Timbuktu will mobilize if it ever reached the impossible chance that Las Canood could be forcefully captured by you over Harti.

haye, I thought 500 elite boon super soldiers were already present in the battlefield?

Wallahi Qurjile meesha wuu ku dhamaadey, what a massive L for the beesha doofar.

Sauron wrote: Tue Jul 18, 2023 4:50 pm

We are clans. You just saw Harti mobilize when you never imagined they would. The entire Darod from Sool to Timbuktu will mobilize if it ever reached the impossible chance that Las Canood could be forcefully captured by you over Harti.

haye, I thought 500 elite boon super soldiers were already present in the battlefield?

Wallahi Qurjile meesha wuu ku dhamaadey, what a massive L for the beesha doofar.

Wars of Aggression are demoralizing to Cultists who were manipulated once lost but in time you will come to accept you lost and even regret the folly.

Before you had even started lobbying shells at Las Anod imagining within no greater than couple days time you would just march back in, I said this is Isaaq's "Afgooye" moment.

Marehan and Daroods had simply withdrawn from Mogadishu to Kismayo, Gedo, and Galkacyo and Caabudwaaq. They had not been ejected through a conventional battle, they simply withdrew when they realized they were in the stomach of a hostile camp.

They had weapons, men, and resources.

That is when Morgan is on video talking about the Gedo SNF who were with the ability to move from Baidoa to "Leego" (Baledogle in Lower Shabelle) after the USC in Mogadishu dared approach it.

Imagine Marehan SNF dispatched a quick threatening convoy to scare back USC ("Hawiye") from approaching a short distance past Afgooye!

What happened?

Drunk on arrogance and high on kibir, they decided to would "retake" Mogadishu.

Mogadishu---the heart of Hawiye where even the homeless street wanderer and housewife would be fighting against them.

They thought they could "take" Mogadishu and even worse, "hold" it as an enemy clan occupying force.

You think "Goojacadde" is close to Laas Caanood?

Try "Afgooye" separated from Mogadishu city lines by a mere street!

They had moved from Kismaayo and Gedo to Afgooye!

The was the power they had.

The fantastical Aidid and USC hulabuloo you hear wasn't so much their strength as Darood's sheer lunacy at that time. Caydid and USC received Mogadishu because Darood had withdrawn due to hostile population (just like Muuse and Las Anod) not because they were ejected out. The Darod were with the ability to base themselves in Afgooye while the USC was holed up in Mogadishu and this was months after Siad Barre moved out of Mogadishu to make base in Burdubo, Gedo.

They were defeated at Afgooye.

Every Hawiye male above adolescence, city boy or country nomad from Hobyo to Marka, Ceelbuur to Cadale had picked up his rifle and swarmed the Darod aggressors who until then reserved the power to still make Afgooye their battle base.

The defeat in Afgooye led to even Beled-Xaawo, Kismaayo and Gaalkacyo being captured by USC.

Of course the Hawiye like the Darod before them were typical Somalis and did not understand what made them "win" in Afgooye is what would in return wreck them in Kismaayo, Galkacyo, and Beled-Hawa.

And nor did you understand it recently either.

Laascaanood is your Afgooye.

If history is something to go by, having already strategically lost your "Afgooye" what is next is after these minor unimportant details such as now---Burco and Hargeisa becoming victim to conflict.

Odaygaan waalan isn't protecting you from nothing as Yusuf messages his capitulation with---

---odaygaan waalan destroyed your 30 year dream with his horrible judgement and bad leadership and he is about to start an Isaaq civil war next because though you guys like to pretend is not happening, you are careening for an Isaaq civil war started by Muuse's lunacy and Garxajis's bitterness toward him.

man, I am not reading that.

long story short, Somaliland will prevail.