2 Abgal clans have a "biblical" type musiibo & HSM jets off to UN meeting where he is SINGLE attending head of state.

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2 Abgal clans have a "biblical" type musiibo & HSM jets off to UN meeting where he is SINGLE attending head of state.

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Every single succeeding day, he gets to a new low when you thought his trainwreck 2nd 'disaster' couldn't get any worse. :dwill:

This is the Somali Marie Antoinette.

He is Marie Antoinette.
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Where is my bro Abkoow?

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Ustaad, a hasty referee may be tempted to reach for his flag and penalize you 15 yards for unsportsmanlike conduct (taunting).
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Xaashalilaah awoowe! The man who thinks to taunt on this subject Eebaa na lehe nin qawl iyo xeer intuba wax ka yaqaan walle maaha. I want Abkoow to have the strength to be able to criticize HSM for some of his gross derelictions of responsibility and this is a supremely disappointing moment of it. Ilaahay baa inoo jeede Barboow imisa jeer ayaan Farmaajo dhaliilay when I felt he had erred in judgement!
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Re: 2 Abgal clans have a "biblical" type musiibo & HSM jets off to UN meeting where he is SINGLE attending head of state

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Salaam gubbet.





Secondly HSM sent Sh shariif, Ugaas and the Imam to the conflict zone. They made a HQ on the border land of Abdalla aroone and Yusuf Galmaax. HSM himself is scheduled to go there when he comes back.
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AbkoowDhiblaawe wrote: Wed Jul 26, 2023 4:31 am Salaam gubbet.





Secondly HSM sent Sh shariif, Ugaas and the Imam to the conflict zone. They made a HQ on the border land of Abdalla aroone and Yusuf Galmaax. HSM himself is scheduled to go there when he comes back.
CORRELATION NOT CAUSATION.

HSM didn't fly to Italy for a "Horn of Africa meeting" as there was none scheduled.

He flew there for " UN Food Systems Summit +2 Stocktaking Moment " a ministerial level bureaucratic meeting where no head of state was required and NONE OTHER THAN HSM are attending. Do you see the Kenyan and Djiboutian no one knows who are in the middle? They were the "ministers" attending the MINISTERIAL UN meeting HSM flew for to Italy.

Abiy was in Italy as a " specially invited keynote speaker" at the "International Conference on Development and Migration."

Because voila HSM chose to randomly and queerly fly there for no reason, his being there gave Italy the chance to ask Abiy for a group impromptu with the Italian PM.

This is not a "1 off" with HSM; this is a PATTERN.

The question still stands why is this man so derelict with his duties as head of state of a burning country?
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And why is it when he flies out that all the big political and security "hits" take place?






In other words, is there something sinister to his lackadaisical flying out? We know there was nothing positive for Somalia meant by naming Mahad Salaad to NISA and Fiqi to Interior Secretary.

Is this a "do what you have to do while I am out so I don't have to address it." 🤔
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The oversea trips are unecessary agreed. But to blame him for inter Abgaal reer baadiye wars looma baahno. He sent the Imam, Ugaas, Sh shariif and other heavyweight elders. They managed to stop the conflict.

However i wonder why do inter qabiil clan start whenever there is a liberation effort? We saw the same shid in October 2022 btwn Agoonyar and Abdalla aroone. When Masaajid Ali Gudud campaign was ongoing. HSM promised in Nuur dugle he will fight clan warriors the way he fights Shabab.

Waxa ugu fadhinaa inuu tiirka geeyo whoever is involved in the conflict. I also find it strange it is the same subclan Abdalla aroone involved in every conflict. :!:
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I did not at all blame him for the two clan's vicious state of enmity which I understand emanates from historical event approximately +-150 years ago regarding infighting about the Abgaal Imamship's dynastic succession. In fact, I came across that history through the contemporaneous recording of Robecchi Brichetti who was traveling around Somalis close to that timeframe. Even more, I wrote about it empathetically here highlighting it as a social problem with comparison to events in other clans using my own Marehan as a comparison;

https://www.somalinet.com/forums/viewto ... 0&t=410138

So no I could never "blame" HSM for it but one cannot disregard the fact he has not shown the capability nor even political capital to bring to bear a level of interference his office is capable of particularly as a man from the clan in question.

Really when you compare him to the level of capability and political capital Farmaajo brought to bear within his own clan vis-a-vis even bringing compulsion to bear curtailing Janan's warlordism in Beled-Xaawo and Gedo, HSM looks even more disappointing and unsuited to capable leadership among Somalis.

That is the criticism towards HSM; dereliction of duty and lack of capability even desire to assert leadership required AND needed.
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Re: 2 Abgal clans have a "biblical" type musiibo & HSM jets off to UN meeting where he is SINGLE attending head of state

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Voltage the conflict has nothing to do with imamship succesion. Imamship is reserved for the Yacqoub dynasty from the Suul Harti, Awbakar Gaabane subclan. Abdalla Caroone is a Suul harti Subclan. While Yusuf Galmaax is a wacbudhan subclan. I myself is from the Omar Galmaax Subclan.

Abdalla Aroone feels sidelined in Harti powersharing. As Agoonyar Gaabane and Awbakar Gaabane part of the Maxamed Caroone subclan took the 2 Suul harti MP kuraas.
So Abdalla view agoonyar and Awbakar as "Macaan jecel" sorta like how reer diini are seen by reer guri.

Hassan sheikh sent ergo to the conflict zone. Non other than a former president from the Suul harti subclan whom Abdalla even have tabasho against. He sent the Imam with Abdalla Caroone reer abtiyaal. He sent the Ugaas who is Wacbuudhan. Dowladda HSM did it's part. They made their HQ in Buursha Sheikh/ Ceel Xarar border currently resolving the issues.
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I don't recall the details very well but the Imam died but either his sons were too young and so a brother was crowned Imam who following his death led to a succession war between th the brother's sons or the Imam died and a succession war broke out between the eldest (who was ultimately killed) and the 3 other boys with the youngest andosy conniving liquidating the other two where in both cases the defeated (the sons of one of the brothers in first story and the sons of the eldest killed in the second story) then sought allies from out the family to continue a state of perpetual enmity. I have been under the impression the Abdalla Caroone were the allies from out the Imam's family who continued their perpetual war. Is that not Cabdalla Caroone. Really the story was juicy contemporaneously vividly recorded by Robecchi I believe (or Cerulli)---one of the Italian travelors.
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I don't know about that. However Abdalla have nothing to do with Reer Imaam other than being Suul Harti.
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