Saalax Sanaag's Hargeisa wedding; Isaaq waa Gob, Daaroodoow Isaaq yaan lagu fogaan

[Gubbet]

Muuse Biixi the war criminal waa xaq muqadas ah in layska celiyo oo dhidhibadda loo aaso, but as a person with recent opportunity to travel among Isaaq and spent time in Hargeisa, the fact that Saalax Sanaag chose to have his wedding in Hargeisa or for that matter for it to take place as it did perfectly peacefully even spectacularly hosted as it was by the people of Hargeisa does not surprise me given my experience among the Isaaq people.


What is even more profound is Saalax Sanaag of Dhulbahante was marrying a bride not of Hargeisa, but of Caabudwaaq and a Marehan (Wagardhac) from his own Darod.

Wallahi waa Gob reerkaan taasna Allaa marqaati iiga ah in ay ka turjumayso from the depth of my soul.

No other part of Somali territory especially the south would this have happened.

Yaan lagu fogaan Isaaq the people, my good folks from Darodoow! Waa Gob dadkaas Muusana maamulkiisa ka turjumi mayso xaqiiqda gobonimmadooda

[Smile-LiKe-SuN-RiSE]

[mahoka]

That’s not gobnimo, that’s called doqoniimo. If a man is stupid enough to allow you to eat from his house and enjoy his water after you declared war on him then you must take advantage of his stupidity.


The fact Darod is still walking around isaaq cities, living with isaaq etc tells you all you need to know about the soft isaaq of today (somaliland worshippers)

[Gubbet]

That’s not gobnimo, that’s called doqoniimo. If a man is stupid enough to allow you to eat from his house and enjoy his water after you declared war on him then you must take advantage of his stupidity.


The fact Darod is still walking around isaaq cities, living with isaaq etc tells you all you need to know about the soft isaaq of today (somaliland worshippers)

The folly of youth. Your relationship to "wisdom" should now be "disciple."

[mahoka]

That’s not gobnimo, that’s called doqoniimo. If a man is stupid enough to allow you to eat from his house and enjoy his water after you declared war on him then you must take advantage of his stupidity.


The fact Darod is still walking around isaaq cities, living with isaaq etc tells you all you need to know about the soft isaaq of today (somaliland worshippers)

The folly of youth. Your relationship to "wisdom" should now be "disciple."

Sxb you seem to be conflicted in your thoughts. I am honest individual. Pro darod and want darods in lascanood and west gedo to have anything to do with hargeisa or Mogadishu or madobe yet you expect to keep enjoying the fruits of isaaq - there is a famous somali saying - “I am crazy or can I hear signing in Aden (city in Yemen)”

For the same reason you don’t want me to have a stake in lascanood or canudwaaq or bosaso is the same reason I don’t want you in my regions enjoying my fruit and honey.


I am a complete advocate for total separation between the two ethnic groups of isaaq and darod due to our history



I got nothing against the Darod people, I just believe that darod and isaaq are like water and oil/fire and ice etc we have nothing to do with each other.


That’s why I advocate for SL to leave darod lands and at the same time also advocate for isaaq people to cut all ties to darod - we need this so we don’t keep going around in circles.

[Gubbet]

I have never had a problem with you even as my next door neighbor. Forced induction and compulsion =/= harmonious exchange and interaction. What is the difference between consummation and rape? After all they are both penetration using the same organs? One is force and compulsion the other is harmonious exchange and interaction. Young man apply your capabilities of reason whose gift you have shown on many an occasion.

[barbarossa]

That’s not gobnimo, that’s called doqoniimo. If a man is stupid enough to allow you to eat from his house and enjoy his water after you declared war on him then you must take advantage of his stupidity.


The fact Darod is still walking around isaaq cities, living with isaaq etc tells you all you need to know about the soft isaaq of today (somaliland worshippers)

The folly of youth. Your relationship to "wisdom" should now be "disciple."

Sxb you seem to be conflicted in your thoughts. I am honest individual. Pro darod and want darods in lascanood and west gedo to have anything to do with hargeisa or Mogadishu or madobe yet you expect to keep enjoying the fruits of isaaq - there is a famous somali saying - “I am crazy or can I hear signing in Aden (city in Yemen)”

For the same reason you don’t want me to have a stake in lascanood or canudwaaq or bosaso is the same reason I don’t want you in my regions enjoying my fruit and honey.


I am a complete advocate for total separation between the two ethnic groups of isaaq and darod due to our history



I got nothing against the Darod people, I just believe that darod and isaaq are like water and oil/fire and ice etc we have nothing to do with each other.


That’s why I advocate for SL to leave darod lands and at the same time also advocate for isaaq people to cut all ties to darod - we need this so we don’t keep going around in circles.

In conformity with a request put forth by the chief of isamada isaaq ee SomNet, the honorable ustaad Mahoka, the sizable iidoor émigrés living in major faqash towns, including Cabudwaaq, Boosaaso, Garowe, Garbahaarey, Gaalkacyo, Kismaayo, among others, are soon to be airlifted, en masse, back to their ancestral home, Qaldaanland.

[original dervish]

That’s not gobnimo, that’s called doqoniimo. If a man is stupid enough to allow you to eat from his house and enjoy his water after you declared war on him then you must take advantage of his stupidity.


The fact Darod is still walking around isaaq cities, living with isaaq etc tells you all you need to know about the soft isaaq of today (somaliland worshippers)

The folly of youth. Your relationship to "wisdom" should now be "disciple."

Sxb you seem to be conflicted in your thoughts. I am honest individual. Pro darod and want darods in lascanood and west gedo to have anything to do with hargeisa or Mogadishu or madobe yet you expect to keep enjoying the fruits of isaaq - there is a famous somali saying - “I am crazy or can I hear signing in Aden (city in Yemen)”

For the same reason you don’t want me to have a stake in lascanood or canudwaaq or bosaso is the same reason I don’t want you in my regions enjoying my fruit and honey.


I am a complete advocate for total separation between the two ethnic groups of isaaq and darod due to our history



I got nothing against the Darod people, I just believe that darod and isaaq are like water and oil/fire and ice etc we have nothing to do with each other.


That’s why I advocate for SL to leave darod lands and at the same time also advocate for isaaq people to cut all ties to darod - we need this so we don’t keep going around in circles.

We don't have a problem with separation.......its your folks who are trying to oppress and dominate us.

Eventually you will have to withdraw to your lands.
We will then develop our SSC state .
Buhoodle will be our Wajaale.
Lascaanood will be our Hargeisa.
Garacad will be our Berbera.

We don't need anything from SL.

[mahoka]

I have never had a problem with you even as my next door neighbor. Forced induction and compulsion =/= harmonious exchange and interaction. What is the difference between consummation and rape? After all they are both penetration using the same organs? One is force and compulsion the other is harmonious exchange and interaction. Young man apply your capabilities of reason whose gift you have shown on many an occasion.

I agree there shouldn’t be forced compulsions but at the same time also there shouldn’t be harmonious interactions. Time for a complete removal of each community from the other community, good luck to both communities in their future endeavours.

But this idea that we got to share anything must go. That way darod don’t feel forced or coerced into doing things and isaaq doesn’t feel cheated or swindled.


The fact you are very reluctant with this idea I present indicates maybe there is more to the story.

[mahoka]

The folly of youth. Your relationship to "wisdom" should now be "disciple."

Sxb you seem to be conflicted in your thoughts. I am honest individual. Pro darod and want darods in lascanood and west gedo to have anything to do with hargeisa or Mogadishu or madobe yet you expect to keep enjoying the fruits of isaaq - there is a famous somali saying - “I am crazy or can I hear signing in Aden (city in Yemen)”

For the same reason you don’t want me to have a stake in lascanood or canudwaaq or bosaso is the same reason I don’t want you in my regions enjoying my fruit and honey.


I am a complete advocate for total separation between the two ethnic groups of isaaq and darod due to our history



I got nothing against the Darod people, I just believe that darod and isaaq are like water and oil/fire and ice etc we have nothing to do with each other.


That’s why I advocate for SL to leave darod lands and at the same time also advocate for isaaq people to cut all ties to darod - we need this so we don’t keep going around in circles.

We don't have a problem with separation.......its your folks who are trying to oppress and dominate us.

Eventually you will have to withdraw to your lands.
We will then develop our SSC state .
Buhoodle will be our Wajaale.
Lascaanood will be our Hargeisa.
Garacad will be our Berbera.

We don't need anything from SL.

No your people accepted money in xchange for supporting SL, that’s how the deal worked. There is 2 ways to resolve it

1- refund SL and SL should then leave dhulo lands

2- since dhulo/darod is broke and can’t refund, let the SL troops shell lascanood to smithereens so they can do damage that equals the amount of money dhulo received from SL


One thing is for sure, a pr0stitute can’t refuse to provide a service after accepting payment



I personally got no dog in this fight (hargeisa mafia vs darod tribalist mafia) these are groups of people who work together and are close friends and partners in business and grifting

[Northkil]

The folly of youth. Your relationship to "wisdom" should now be "disciple."

Sxb you seem to be conflicted in your thoughts. I am honest individual. Pro darod and want darods in lascanood and west gedo to have anything to do with hargeisa or Mogadishu or madobe yet you expect to keep enjoying the fruits of isaaq - there is a famous somali saying - “I am crazy or can I hear signing in Aden (city in Yemen)”

For the same reason you don’t want me to have a stake in lascanood or canudwaaq or bosaso is the same reason I don’t want you in my regions enjoying my fruit and honey.


I am a complete advocate for total separation between the two ethnic groups of isaaq and darod due to our history



I got nothing against the Darod people, I just believe that darod and isaaq are like water and oil/fire and ice etc we have nothing to do with each other.


That’s why I advocate for SL to leave darod lands and at the same time also advocate for isaaq people to cut all ties to darod - we need this so we don’t keep going around in circles.

In conformity with a request put forth by the chief of isamada isaaq ee SomNet, the honorable ustaad Mahoka, the sizable iidoor émigrés living in major faqash towns, including Cabudwaaq, Boosaaso, Garowe, Garbahaarey, Gaalkacyo, Kismaayo, among others, are soon to be airlifted, en masse, back to their ancestral home, Qaldaanland.

[Gubbet]

Mahoka is every self-entitled ton pot cultist.

Sxb, you need to understand a lot of basic reasoning principles.

1. Force and compulsion= NO CHOICE. Agreement = 100% FREE CHOICE. This is to say agreement means BOTH sides have to be ok with something. If one party does not agree, fhen the the interaction does NOT takr place. So between the two only Force and Compulsion is a harm. The other is a disappointment. You seem to think FORCE is am EQUIVALENT state of being to DISAPPOINTMENT. They are not. Stop comparing the two as if they are equivalents. You can choose to not want Darood anywhere near from here until enternity but under no acceptable reason should you implicate SUBJUGATION as a counter equal.

2. In a free society clearly YOU are merely "1" choice among a society with individuals owning the same. There are hawks on my side that I have disagreed with on this matter exactly the same as I am disagreeing with you. In fact this entire topic is penned to MY SIDE addressing some of the hardline views. Similarly, the same intercourse of viewpoints are taking place on your side as well because if the people of Hargeisa were all like you then that wedding would not have happened in Hargeisa at all! So you need to speak contextualizing your own position as even the minority with your own side as clearly evident from the "ACTIONS" exhibited by the people of Hargeisa.

3. Dhulbahante doesn't OWE you anything. It is ridiculous how similar this argument is to antebellum southern America where White southern slave owners had the galls to defend slavery during abolition arguing "I bought them with my money and housed and clothed them and they have a life long debt to me." Well no, no one told you to " buy" human beings and neither did they exchange their services to you in exchange for money and keep. " Here, Sir, buy me and consider yourself a life long obedient slave. " In addition, the profit/gain from their services thus far in free labor is many times over anything they could possibly have even " owed" you. So, Sir, you are actually IN DEBT to them to which you could never even pay off. SOMALILAND chose out of its own accord to do whatever they did by way of asserting their maamul in Las Anod. Somaliland organs and presidency without a single compulsion from Dhulbahante. Furthermore, for 30 years Somaliland FREE ATE Dhulbahante (and Warsangeli) part of the international aid and relief apportionment particularly during DUAL TRACK. Neither Somaliland nor Somalia raise enough revenues from " taxes" to run a single filing office so therefore what Las Anod could ever have gotten in general could never reach what Somaliland was already taking in Las Anod's name claiming authority.

Check yourself sxb..

[skywalker25]

That’s not gobnimo, that’s called doqoniimo. If a man is stupid enough to allow you to eat from his house and enjoy his water after you declared war on him then you must take advantage of his stupidity.


The fact Darod is still walking around isaaq cities, living with isaaq etc tells you all you need to know about the soft isaaq of today (somaliland worshippers)

The folly of youth. Your relationship to "wisdom" should now be "disciple."

Sxb you seem to be conflicted in your thoughts. I am honest individual. Pro darod and want darods in lascanood and west gedo to have anything to do with hargeisa or Mogadishu or madobe yet you expect to keep enjoying the fruits of isaaq - there is a famous somali saying - “I am crazy or can I hear signing in Aden (city in Yemen)”

For the same reason you don’t want me to have a stake in lascanood or canudwaaq or bosaso is the same reason I don’t want you in my regions enjoying my fruit and honey.


I am a complete advocate for total separation between the two ethnic groups of isaaq and darod due to our history



I got nothing against the Darod people, I just believe that darod and isaaq are like water and oil/fire and ice etc we have nothing to do with each other.


That’s why I advocate for SL to leave darod lands and at the same time also advocate for isaaq people to cut all ties to darod - we need this so we don’t keep going around in circles.

I have to agree with Mahoka on this one. Not long ago I remember people from Somaliland being arrested in Mogadishu and or beaten in Cabudwaaq not being allowed to celebrate May 18th. Even you Gubbet advised Rightwing not to go to you region for his one safety as he could be harmed for being Isaaq. Now how long can Isaaq's be expected to take the moral high ground whilst everyone else is playing dirty.

The other question is why even with today's conflict can a Dhubahnte or any Harti/Darod be able to roam any Isaaq region without any worry of harm. When the same cannot be said when a Isaaq goes to any Darod region. Are we Isaaq more civilised than other Somalis?

[Gubbet]

No, that is not what I said to Right-wing at all. Quote me verbatim. I insist if you are going to mischaracterize me. Quote me verbatim---quote exactly my response to Right-wing without a single missing period.

Right here is the topic --> https://www.somalinet.com/forums/viewto ... 0&t=410141

And FYI, Caabudwaaq has had Somaliland May celebrations in months during years where there was controversy in Hargeisa regarding the wearing of a blue flag bracelet or something.

All of whatever negativity that had been contextualized in this topic including what you referenced ARE ALL THE EFFECTS of Miuse Biixi's decision to implicate Somaliland in gross human rigits abuses and war crimes against other Somalis.

Muuse is the genesis. The buck stops with him.

[barbarossa]

I hail from the ancient skinny town of Gaalkacyo, and according to my sources, the town councils there recently passed, with an overwhelming majority, a byelaw, making it legal for its citizens to shoot, on sight, any qowdhan they come across within the city limits.