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A failure of the highest order; a catastrophe of unimaginable scale; but also a Conspiracy premeditated on destroying what they believed was "Farmaajo's Army" (SNA--Somali National Army)? It is worse than you can imagine.

This is an eye opening, brilliant piece of investigative reporting by C/razaq Terra, who provides an insight as to how the Fed. government mismanaged the fight against Al Shabaab, but even goes insofar as to suggest there being a seditious ploy to dismantle the Somali Army. His scoping and timeline are precise, if detailed with May 2023 being one of the deadliest, if not the worse. He hones in on where it all went wrong, as he compares the initial gains in the latter half of 2022 versus considerable losses in the first half of 2023, when it all went awry.

His conclusion:
a) There was a deliberate plan to sabotage the Somali Army whilst feeding Al Shabaab inside Army intel,
b) A seditious ploy to destroy the Somali Army.

Losses & Casualties:
Casualties on the Somali Army side incl. ATMIS:
Total deaths: 1,394
218 are of ATMIS majority of whom are of Uganda.

Wounded: 554

Majority of senior Somali Army officers had been killed.

Al Shabaab recaptured 85% of battle areas previously captured by the Somali Army.

Weaponry captured by Al Shabaab:
365 heavy armory / armoured vehicles
14 heavy lorries for freight and cargo
16 ambulances
8 water tankers
12 luxury army officer vehicles

150 armoured vehicles destroyed,
82 of them equipped with surveillance & telecom equipment, radars, signal jammers etc
45 equipped with GPS.

Source for this encapsulation: https://www.somalispot.com/threads/a-ra ... my.151618/

Al Shabaab recaptured 85% of battle areas previously captured by the Somali Army

Since day 1 i have observed you. I can now safely conclude that you are an enemy. Maanta laga bilaabana gar iyo gardaro ba waan wataa HSM. Ileen Cadow oo ka xun Al Shabab ba tahee.

Give me a list of the land recaptured by AS! No waffling or essays.

This is not true at all. Actually, it's a blatant lie. Shabaab did not recapture 85% of territory they lost and 500 battlewagons were not captured. CBB waa naago, incredibly spiteful and salty.

War gaalka waa la dilaa, gartiisana waa la siiyaa. Shabaab have been bloodied since HSM came to power. They have lost swathes of territory. Their finances are in disarray.

GeoSeven wrote: Tue Aug 01, 2023 6:05 am This is not true at all. Actually, it's a blatant lie. Shabaab did not recapture 85% of territory they lost and 500 battlewagons were not captured. CBB waa naago, incredibly spiteful and salty.

War gaalka waa la dilaa, gartiisana waa la siiyaa. Shabaab have been bloodied since HSM came to power. They have lost swathes of territory. Their finances are in disarray.

Geo war wuxuu waaba gun caadi. Imagine this man is supporting an administration that didn't fight AS for 5 years. Who infact gave them 5 years to grow and become stronger.

Instead of showing moral support CBB are sided with AS. Hawiye inuu Al shabab dhulkiisa ka xoreysto ayaaba calool xanuun ku heysa. It's evident now CBB wants Hawiye lands to remain under AS control. Xaasid ma aflaxo. Inshallah 4 more years of Shuban and calool xanuun for CBB.

AbkoowDhiblaawe wrote: Tue Aug 01, 2023 8:13 am

GeoSeven wrote: Tue Aug 01, 2023 6:05 am This is not true at all. Actually, it's a blatant lie. Shabaab did not recapture 85% of territory they lost and 500 battlewagons were not captured. CBB waa naago, incredibly spiteful and salty.

War gaalka waa la dilaa, gartiisana waa la siiyaa. Shabaab have been bloodied since HSM came to power. They have lost swathes of territory. Their finances are in disarray.

Geo war wuxuu waaba gun caadi. Imagine this man is supporting an administration that didn't fight AS for 5 years. Who infact gave them 5 years to grow and become stronger.

Instead of showing moral support CBB are sided with AS. Hawiye inuu Al shabab dhulkiisa ka xoreysto ayaaba calool xanuun ku heysa. It's evident now CBB wants Hawiye lands to remain under AS control. Xaasid ma aflaxo. Inshallah 4 more years of Shuban and calool xanuun for CBB.

Ninyaho, even the slam him was supposed to match the harshness of your words to me and be just as provocative as you calling ME your "enemy." In all the times I have disagreed vehemently with you under Farmaajo, I did not personalize anything with you nor infer something "personal" from political disagreement. And even on multiple occasions I apologized to you in private and explicitly clarified my position was not at intended to be personal. And to make it worse, you charged at me in the one topic where I literally posted a video documentary by someone else and forwent even my own interpretation and merely referenced someone else's from another forum of whom I explicitly sourced. Essentially for something that is not of my own production. Sometimes you act like HSM is your father and the Somali government is your individual family under him. Take a time out ninyaho. This is how a member of a cult acts; you are acting like you are a cult member right now.

Gubbet wrote: Tue Aug 01, 2023 9:23 am

AbkoowDhiblaawe wrote: Tue Aug 01, 2023 8:13 am

GeoSeven wrote: Tue Aug 01, 2023 6:05 am This is not true at all. Actually, it's a blatant lie. Shabaab did not recapture 85% of territory they lost and 500 battlewagons were not captured. CBB waa naago, incredibly spiteful and salty.

War gaalka waa la dilaa, gartiisana waa la siiyaa. Shabaab have been bloodied since HSM came to power. They have lost swathes of territory. Their finances are in disarray.

Geo war wuxuu waaba gun caadi. Imagine this man is supporting an administration that didn't fight AS for 5 years. Who infact gave them 5 years to grow and become stronger.

Instead of showing moral support CBB are sided with AS. Hawiye inuu Al shabab dhulkiisa ka xoreysto ayaaba calool xanuun ku heysa. It's evident now CBB wants Hawiye lands to remain under AS control. Xaasid ma aflaxo. Inshallah 4 more years of Shuban and calool xanuun for CBB.

Ninyaho, even the slam him was supposed to match the harshness of your words to me and be just as provocative as you calling ME your "enemy." In all the times I have disagreed vehemently with you under Farmaajo, I did not personalize anything with you or infer something "personal" from political disagreement. And that goes with saying I literally posted a video documentary by someone else and forwent even my own interpretation and merely referenced someone else's from another forum of whom I explicitly sourced. Sometimes you act like HSM is your father and the Somali government is your individual family under him. Take a time out ninyaho. You literally are acting like you are a cult member right now.

If anyone needs a timeout it's you. This whole forum became your personal diary. I barely post in this forum nor do you see me defend the gov 24 7. You are pushing absolute lies because of one man. You are even in bed with AS because of HSM hatred. Of course i will see you as an enemy when you are downplaying a sucessful operation not once but several times. Like i said we will continue liberating our dhul. Bay n Bakool and jubboyinka idinkey idin taala. Balaayada aad saadineysan idinkey idinku danbeyn doonta.

AbkoowDhiblaawe wrote: Tue Aug 01, 2023 8:13 am

GeoSeven wrote: Tue Aug 01, 2023 6:05 am This is not true at all. Actually, it's a blatant lie. Shabaab did not recapture 85% of territory they lost and 500 battlewagons were not captured. CBB waa naago, incredibly spiteful and salty.

War gaalka waa la dilaa, gartiisana waa la siiyaa. Shabaab have been bloodied since HSM came to power. They have lost swathes of territory. Their finances are in disarray.

Geo war wuxuu waaba gun caadi. Imagine this man is supporting an administration that didn't fight AS for 5 years. Who infact gave them 5 years to grow and become stronger.

Instead of showing moral support CBB are sided with AS. Hawiye inuu Al shabab dhulkiisa ka xoreysto ayaaba calool xanuun ku heysa. It's evident now CBB wants Hawiye lands to remain under AS control. Xaasid ma aflaxo. Inshallah 4 more years of Shuban and calool xanuun for CBB.

Abkow ileen hawiye are slow people. You are only realising the backhanded ness of this community only now that you are nearly a grandfather (it took hawiye too long to realise basics)


You can’t build a nation with these people no matter what you do. It’s why I am happy the hargeisa mafia is fighting their darod friends in lascanood - it safes the isaaq taxpayer from funding his or her enemies - hargeisa mafia wanted to use the darod sheeko as a distraction for the isaaq masses who are demanding change

AbkoowDhiblaawe wrote: Tue Aug 01, 2023 8:13 am

GeoSeven wrote: Tue Aug 01, 2023 6:05 am This is not true at all. Actually, it's a blatant lie. Shabaab did not recapture 85% of territory they lost and 500 battlewagons were not captured. CBB waa naago, incredibly spiteful and salty.

War gaalka waa la dilaa, gartiisana waa la siiyaa. Shabaab have been bloodied since HSM came to power. They have lost swathes of territory. Their finances are in disarray.

Geo war wuxuu waaba gun caadi. Imagine this man is supporting an administration that didn't fight AS for 5 years. Who infact gave them 5 years to grow and become stronger.

Instead of showing moral support CBB are sided with AS. Hawiye inuu Al shabab dhulkiisa ka xoreysto ayaaba calool xanuun ku heysa. It's evident now CBB wants Hawiye lands to remain under AS control. Xaasid ma aflaxo. Inshallah 4 more years of Shuban and calool xanuun for CBB.

They're taking political opposition to a different level. This is subversion, it's treason.

Voltage, HSM is busy eradicating the Shabaab. NN Fahad and Farmaajo, were in bed with them. Five years, not a finger lifted against Shabaab. If there was ever a group of terrorists, it was NN. That is the reality.

AbkoowDhiblaawe wrote: Tue Aug 01, 2023 9:42 am

Gubbet wrote: Tue Aug 01, 2023 9:23 am

AbkoowDhiblaawe wrote: Tue Aug 01, 2023 8:13 am

Geo war wuxuu waaba gun caadi. Imagine this man is supporting an administration that didn't fight AS for 5 years. Who infact gave them 5 years to grow and become stronger.

Instead of showing moral support CBB are sided with AS. Hawiye inuu Al shabab dhulkiisa ka xoreysto ayaaba calool xanuun ku heysa. It's evident now CBB wants Hawiye lands to remain under AS control. Xaasid ma aflaxo. Inshallah 4 more years of Shuban and calool xanuun for CBB.

Ninyaho, even the slam him was supposed to match the harshness of your words to me and be just as provocative as you calling ME your "enemy." In all the times I have disagreed vehemently with you under Farmaajo, I did not personalize anything with you or infer something "personal" from political disagreement. And that goes with saying I literally posted a video documentary by someone else and forwent even my own interpretation and merely referenced someone else's from another forum of whom I explicitly sourced. Sometimes you act like HSM is your father and the Somali government is your individual family under him. Take a time out ninyaho. You literally are acting like you are a cult member right now.

If anyone needs a timeout it's you. This whole forum became your personal diary. I barely post in this forum nor do you see me defend the gov 24 7. You are pushing absolute lies because of one man. You are even in bed with AS because of HSM hatred. Of course i will see you as an enemy when you are downplaying a sucessful operation not once but several times. Like i said we will continue liberating our dhul. Bay n Bakool and jubboyinka idinkey idin taala. Balaayada aad saadineysan idinkey idinku danbeyn doonta.

I implore you to collect yourself sxb. This is unbecoming.

GeoSeven wrote: Tue Aug 01, 2023 11:00 am

AbkoowDhiblaawe wrote: Tue Aug 01, 2023 8:13 am

GeoSeven wrote: Tue Aug 01, 2023 6:05 am This is not true at all. Actually, it's a blatant lie. Shabaab did not recapture 85% of territory they lost and 500 battlewagons were not captured. CBB waa naago, incredibly spiteful and salty.

War gaalka waa la dilaa, gartiisana waa la siiyaa. Shabaab have been bloodied since HSM came to power. They have lost swathes of territory. Their finances are in disarray.

Geo war wuxuu waaba gun caadi. Imagine this man is supporting an administration that didn't fight AS for 5 years. Who infact gave them 5 years to grow and become stronger.

Instead of showing moral support CBB are sided with AS. Hawiye inuu Al shabab dhulkiisa ka xoreysto ayaaba calool xanuun ku heysa. It's evident now CBB wants Hawiye lands to remain under AS control. Xaasid ma aflaxo. Inshallah 4 more years of Shuban and calool xanuun for CBB.

They're taking political opposition to a different level. This is subversion, it's treason.

Voltage, HSM is busy eradicating the Shabaab. NN Fahad and Farmaajo, were in bed with them. Five years, not a finger lifted against Shabaab. If there was ever a group of terrorists, it was NN. That is the reality.

You sound like every layman that drank the Kool Aid a little too deep.

mahoka wrote: Tue Aug 01, 2023 10:03 am

AbkoowDhiblaawe wrote: Tue Aug 01, 2023 8:13 am

GeoSeven wrote: Tue Aug 01, 2023 6:05 am This is not true at all. Actually, it's a blatant lie. Shabaab did not recapture 85% of territory they lost and 500 battlewagons were not captured. CBB waa naago, incredibly spiteful and salty.

War gaalka waa la dilaa, gartiisana waa la siiyaa. Shabaab have been bloodied since HSM came to power. They have lost swathes of territory. Their finances are in disarray.

Geo war wuxuu waaba gun caadi. Imagine this man is supporting an administration that didn't fight AS for 5 years. Who infact gave them 5 years to grow and become stronger.

Instead of showing moral support CBB are sided with AS. Hawiye inuu Al shabab dhulkiisa ka xoreysto ayaaba calool xanuun ku heysa. It's evident now CBB wants Hawiye lands to remain under AS control. Xaasid ma aflaxo. Inshallah 4 more years of Shuban and calool xanuun for CBB.

Abkow ileen hawiye are slow people. You are only realising the backhanded ness of this community only now that you are nearly a grandfather (it took hawiye too long to realise basics)


You can’t build a nation with these people no matter what you do. It’s why I am happy the hargeisa mafia is fighting their darod friends in lascanood - it safes the isaaq taxpayer from funding his or her enemies - hargeisa mafia wanted to use the darod sheeko as a distraction for the isaaq masses who are demanding change