It is apparent to me that Marehan & Ogaden need a political settlement & Darod should encourage and facilitate it.

[Gubbet]

Marehan and Ogaden are partners---including by geographical and political circumstance---who lack a Covenant.This is the fundamentally poisoning feature behind all the disagreements, destabilization, political instability, and really the completely deadlocked, unmoving, stagnant gridlock in Jubbaland (and even in eastern Somali Region).

• A political settlement is not about hegemony, it is about humility. It is a profoundly important paradigm orienting a relationship to be based on and controlled by mutual understanding, mutual respect, and mutual agreement.
• It means it is anti-conquer.
• If you compromised as part of dealing a political settlement to which you feel full ownership and have 100% confidence than that means you have elected to transform. There is no grievance.

Just as Majerten and Dhulbahante have been compelled by an extraordinary circumstance to finally begin the process of a political settlement, it is obvious Marehan and Ogaden should be pushed to start forming one as well.

Marehan, the vast overwhelming including myself on many occasions, do not understand or carelessly forget that Ogaden cannot see or does not want to see the problem of Ahmed Madoobe or of length of presence because they see him as a bulwark against fears of Marehan dominance and monopolization. The irony in this being what one theorizes about the future, the other side has been forced to confront by Kenya's bufferzone project since inception.


They need a political settlement. This political settlement entails sitting down, communicating, harmonizing vision, synergizing effort, and going from competition to collaboration.

• If Darod knows what is good for them in Somalia, and in Jubbaland، they should be doing everything they can facilitating the birth of a political settlement between Marehan and Ogaden that turns Jubbaland politics from adversarial to cooperative.
• Anyone interested in a stable and functioning Somalia on the path to stability would support this as an important building-block in Somalia's state project.

Marehan and Ogaden, the totality of them as clans both within but not limited to Somalia, need to form a broad and comprehensive political settlement that blocks all the paths to possible conflict and instability between them.

[Gubbet]

[GeoSeven]

Exactly. Ogaden aren't going away. It is in the best interest of both parties, moreso Marehan that a politcal settlement is reached. This is what I've always been saying. The narrative of wait until Kenya leaves etc etc isn't a logical plan.

[Sbashi]

Ogaden specifically one sub-clan love the status quo. They'd need great incentive to even consider a political settlement. Once they feel the heat they will come to the table. Now they don't need to.

[Nomand]

There won't be a settlement as long as amisom is in somalia. If amisom leaves it won't be required things will settle as they where pre amisom.

[Murax]

MX needs it but why Ogadeen? The status quo is perfect for them

[KacdoonSool]

Khatumo needs to medititate between Marehan and Ogaden

[BigBreak]

Khatumo needs to medititate between Marehan and Ogaden

Xiriirland has a better chance of mediating

[Gubbet]

Ogaden specifically one sub-clan love the status quo. They'd need great incentive to even consider a political settlement. Once they feel the heat they will come to the table. Now they don't need to.

There won't be a settlement as long as amisom is in somalia. If amisom leaves it won't be required things will settle as they where pre amisom.

MX needs it but why Ogadeen? The status quo is perfect for them

Marehan men---just like myself; yet 3 statements whose limiting detractions not only confirm for me that Marehan and Ogaden do need a political settlement, but even reinforces the feeling it is required.

These 3 statements present self-absorption. They contain elements of ego, zero-sum existentialism, and coercion as the force for Right.

This is expressed as something conditioned by Madoobe, but if all 3 were asked (and which Nomand has preemptively answered) in their belief of beliefs, Madoobe is temporary, the circumstance is unnatural, and they are absolutely confident Marehan will replace Madoobe , sooner or later but will at the conclusion to Kenya's troop presence.

The statements expressed come from the poisoned fruit at the heart of Somali statelessness and dysfunctionality---namely, conquer, subjugation, dictate over discussion, control not consent as the end goal.

Essentially the statements have not been stated for Ogaden or for their reality or even really for them. Rather the only function they serve is to facilitate the inevitable Marehan conquer---when it happens---which they all believe will happen.

The question then becomes----forget about speaking for Ogaden or Madoobe but rather speaking just for yourself and what you would 'like' to see, would you 'like' to see a Marehan and Ogaden that have reached a political settlement and have turned Jubbaland politics from adversarial competition to collaborative cooperation? Or would you like to see the inverse and conquer vs defeat, winner vs loser, subjugation vs disorder, and repetition of history?

Not what you think others want or will accept gentlemen, but speaking just for yourself and vision of what you would like to see!

p.s. And you will reserve the presumption of innocence to my intention as I insist.

[theyuusuf143]

Khatumo needs to medititate between Marehan and Ogaden

Xiriirland has a better chance of mediating

I think maakhir is more suitable mediator. Holy shit these dooro peaple are fragmented . Every one of them wants to be madax. It's like they have no any other irsaaqad. Imagine fighting over a port city for 32 years. When they couldn't defeat each other , every one of them brought shisheeye . Mareexaan brought habagidir , cagdheer brought kenyati. Others brought alshabaab. And it's still the same. I don't blame the cagdheer. Cuqdadu xaga mareexaan ka bay Ka socota. Anagu. Waxba ma qarino Hadaanu isaaq Nahay. Mareexanaw cuqdada ogaaden iska saara.

Maxaa Ku Jaban hadaad cagdheer ta kabaha u qaadan maalmo oo aad shaaha u dhigdhigtaan. Ogaaden Ku waa niman gumaysi daashaday intaas bay Ku nefisayan. Hadhawna meesha aayar kala wareega yadoon dhiig Ku daadan. Aan ahayn kenyatigu bilo gudahood bay baxayaane car bal waataase ogaaden xoog wax kaga qaada.

[Gubbet]

Yusuf, walaaloow, you gain nothing from dysfunctionality in Jubbaland between these people. And whether you are cognizant of it or not, that is the motivation for your devil's advocacy. When I opine or take a position on Isaaq, I do not engage in devil's advocacy because I do not believe there is anything to be gained from Isaaq dysfunctionaliy. In this very topic penned by a Marehan identifying the need for a holistic political settlement based on integrity and is even defending that proposition in discussion with other Marehan, your role in line with what is best for Somalis, the region, and even the world is to support and aid the importance of sitting down and talking as a starting matter. The process itself already requires that the antagonists will talk and reach an understanding that delivers what that political settlement ends up being---formed by the antagonists themselves. I encourage you to cease even the motivation for instigation at the heart of the choice to play devil's advocate. The very desire for reconciliation establishes the invalidation of negative effectuation.

[theyuusuf143]

Aniga afkaar tayda jubaland Ku aadan waa caan lamana gabado. Waxan aaminsansanahay in aad ogaadenka Ka gardaran tihiin. I always recommend inaad heshiisaan it's you marwalba Ku doodi jiray Kenyan baa cagdheer ta meesha Ku haya. Hadaba Kenya ku imikay guurayaane bal waataase cirka soo dumi. Dadkiina cuqdad aan meel laga soo noqda jirin baad geliseen. Mana fududa in laga shubo waxad Ku shubteen. Hala yaabin hadaad arkiba waydo mareexaan nabad raba.

Cagdheer ta laftoodu maanta inay meesha idiinka kacaan way Ku yara adag tahay there is lack of trust between you and them. Kuwii lo,oda ahaa ee cawl yahan laftoodu in loo guuriyey doonayan. Waxayna u badan tahay in lo,odaasi meesha imanayso axmed madoobe marku tago. Idinku arin iyo itaal toona mahaysan. Arrrogance qalalan baad haysaan. Wax jubaland la dhaho oo Dhulka daarodka meel Ka baxsan gaadhaysaana ma jirto. Intiina yar Ku heshiiya ama Isku laaya.

[Gubbet]

Go away dude. Wrong topic to troll me.

[Gubbet]

The Process has Started. Marehan has arrived in Jigjiga, both Mudug & Gedo branches. This is inauguration.

[Gubbet]

Cagjar just sprang the surprise of surprises to mark the start of the process to a MX-OG Political Settlement...!




Marehan have won concession of their own district in eastern Somali Region with fully franchised constituency of their own for the 1st time after 80 years of hostility!