USA torpedoes SL Recognition Hopes

[original dervish]

By coming out in support of Somalia's territorial integrity, the USA has ended SL hopes of recognition in the short term.

Even if Ethiopia recognise SL, they will be seen by the world as opportunist land thieves. It will guarantee that no other country recognises SL.

SL shouldn't be too despondent. Politics is constantly changing. The US presidential election in 2024 could see the return of the Republicans/ Trump to the white House.

The Republicans have a much more aggressive foreign policy than the Democrats, and are seen as more sympathetic to SL.

SL should use the time until the US election to develop a new political strategy. This new strategy should be centred around a call for a UN supervised independence referendum.

SL should not ask Ethiopia to recognise its unilateral declaration of independence, it will almost certainly backfire and invalidate calls for a UN vote.
SL needs to take one step back and two steps forward.

My only concern is that if SL has the young, educated, and competent politicians to pursue a new policy. The old senile 90 year old need to be gone.

[Khalid Ali]

The Bush administration was on the verge of recognising Somaliland when somalia had no goverment well the TFG of abdulahi Yusuf was there i guess it was around 2004 2005 or so US secretary of defense



It's time Somaliland was declared independent
This article is more than 15 years oldJeremy Sare
While Somalia in the south is in chaos, the north is safe and democratic – yet seems invisible to the international community
Wed 8 Oct 2008 21.40 CEST
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The recent spate of piracy off Somalia's coast is yet another symptom of the country's collapse of stability and some of its peoples' intense desperation. Reports that the pirates or hijackers of the Ukrainian vessel had begun shooting each other formed a perfect microcosm of Somalia's brutal inner turmoil.
But in the northern half of the country, known as Somaliland, there is no such mayhem. Given its close proximity to the ravaged "failed state" of Somalia, it is astonishing that Somaliland should be stable, safe, democratic and largely crime-free.
To most people, Somalia is synonymous with bloody anarchy – simply one of the most dangerous places in the world. Only the few people with an active interest in the Horn of Africa seem aware of Somaliland's peaceful existence. The leading authority on the region since the 1950s is Professor Ioan Lewis – his book, Understanding Somalia and Somaliland, published in July, leads you to the conclusion. In comprehending the unending enigma of the Horn, one course of action is clear – the peaceful north must be allowed to declare independence from the endless chaos of the south.
That view is privately shared by many governments in Africa and in the wider world, but Somaliland's declared independence of 1991 is still yet to formally recognised by any nation and it remains an "invisible" country. Diplomatic recognition is the perpetual obsession of the Somaliland government; without it, the country remains starved of foreign investment and aid. In all probability, it would take just one country, such the US, to move on the issue and the rest, with a handful of exceptions, would be bound to follow. However, none of the main players wants to be first, so they are engaged in a multiple "Mexican stand-off". The few countries who openly oppose recognition (Egypt and Italy) argue "former colonial boundaries should not be redrawn". But Somalilanders agree. The country was a former British protectorate which became independent in 1960 and simultaneously joined in union with the former Italian colony of Somalia. By the mid-1980s the union was rapidly disintegrating; the mass bombing in 1988 of Somaliland's capital, Hargeisa, where 50,000 civilians were killed extinguished any thoughts of reconciliation.
The collective policy of finding a peaceful solution in the southern half of Somalia has not progressed even after 15 peace conferences in as many years. One Somali commentator called this apparently pointless exercise, "the policy of following a blind camel". A Senlis council report published in April says, "the international community needs to be reawakened from its torpor on Somaliland".
But Ted Dagne from Washington's congressional research service argues: "Somalia must develop a federal structure that gives regional autonomy." For the Somalilanders in the north this political theorem is plainly non-sensical. They see the failed union like two brothers who went into business together – while one brother was sober and hard-working, the other went off the rails, destroying the company's stock along with its reputation. Yet it is to the "reckless brother" the international community relentlessly turns to for a solution. The Somaliland president Dahir Riyale Kahin visited the US in April in the hope of broadening support towards the goal of recognition. Somaliland has certainly passed any democratic test set by Washington in establishing a multi-party system, holding free and fair elections and upholding freedom of speech. There is now a division of opinion at the top of the US government on this issue. Pentagon chief Robert Gates sees Somaliland as "an entity that works". But Dr Jendayi Frazer, second in command at the state department said: "The US will not take the first step to recognising Somaliland before the African Union." A change of president in January may alter that position, or before that Bush may be persuaded that Somaliland recognition could be part of his "African legacy". The military see the strategic importance of having a base in the Gulf of Aden as a bulwark against al-Qaida and the deep-water port of Berbera could be ideal.
Ultimately, these are the factors which are likely to determine Somaliland's chances of gaining equal nation status under the UN and not its efforts, against the odds, to create a democratic and free society.



i love the republicans hate the hippi democrat singing kumbaya mother fuckers

[original dervish]

What do you think about Ethiopia recognising SL for sea access?

Do you think it may backfire ?

What do you think SL should do?

[gobdoon]

Ethiopia is scamming the iidoor and giving them fake hopes, never trust door knocker sales men

[cheifaqilbari]

What do you think about Ethiopia recognising SL for sea access?

Do you think it may backfire ?

What do you think SL should do?

UK is the pinholder on all Somaliland and Somalia issues at the UN. When ethiopia recognizes Somaliland , United Kingdom will be next after that it would be straight line of countries. Already Aby Ahmed is on his way to Hargeisa. Labadi ciidam has made joint office to talk. Its going ruunti si daqsa malin kasta war cusub ban maqleyna. And from Koonfuria side iaygu wey iska qeylinyan. Koonfuria is not serious today Xamzi said dagaal ban la galeyna Ethiopia just not serious

[BigBreak]

What do you think about Ethiopia recognising SL for sea access?

Do you think it may backfire ?

What do you think SL should do?

UK is the pinholder on all Somaliland and Somalia issues at the UN. When ethiopia recognizes Somaliland , United Kingdom will be next after that it would be straight line of countries. Already Aby Ahmed is on his way to Hargeisa. Labadi ciidam has made joint office to talk. Its going ruunti si daqsa malin kasta war cusub ban maqleyna. And from Koonfuria side iaygu wey iska qeylinyan. Koonfuria is not serious today Xamzi said dagaal ban la galeyna Ethiopia just not serious

Is Abiy really coming to Hargeisa? That would be amazing but it could just be rumours only

No deal can happen without official recognition from Ethiopia first

[cheifaqilbari]

[cheifaqilbari]

marxuumki oo awowgees gumeyso ku jireen waligood oo shacabka iyo qaranka Somaliland u hanjabaya.

[LaY-D_LicK]

This od is fake news ....

I could prove it but I can't be bothered everyone knew about the mou deal before it happened...

And why is the president of Somalia refusing to go to the African union summit 2024 ..

Lol Somalia already lost and recognition will be delivered 2024



The biggest looser of 2024

[LaY-D_LicK]

[LaY-D_LicK]

[original dervish]

Stop spamming the forum.

[LaY-D_LicK]

I drop current events facts your spam the forum with fake news ...

[LaY-D_LicK]

[theyuusuf143]

Both abiy and biixi are desperate . The agreement will be implemented in 2 months . Haday qudhunbiirsay gu diidan saldhiga ciise muuseba haloo geeyo.