qabil ka mid eh isaq are claiming hutu salebaan hg

[FarhanYare]

baafin xinow the saleeban shegato add ur input.

[FarhanYare]

The tribe is arab, isaq

[original dervish]

I think most Somali clans have illegitimate subclans.
It seems the women of ancient times were not averse to some hanky panky on the side. Some of the ignoble progeny would have been orphans of course. This is probably why they started the savage practise of fgm.....to control women's sexuality.

Does it really make a difference today......I doubt it?
The Salebaan see themselves as nothing other than HG.
Is there something up with the legitimacy of HG.....I remember it was claimed Sacaad were Ogaden?

I wonder with clan had the largest number of suspect subclans.

[barbarossa]

Farhanyare, be proud of you are iidoor heritage.

[Khalid Ali]

nobody claims hutu bantus xita haday naga lumeen hada wa bantu oo their blood is polluted with the bantu gene

[original dervish]

There is no doubt the southerners are more heterogeneous than Northern populations.
Personally, I prefer the exotic nature of southern fillies.

[theyuusuf143]

We have saleebaan juffi in our Arab clan. They are brothers of the habar gidir saleebaans. Xaaji saleebaan is buried in Saaxil region . Saleebaan are from the north. They actually different from the other habagidir. They are well organised clan just like the isaaqs.

Look at galmudug today under saleebaan. It's functioning state. Markii xaaf joogay marfish qaad bay ahayd. Waxa kasii horeeyey caalin oo buuri cuna. Oday yaroo arag xunbuu ahaa. Gulled iyo qaybdiidna waxaan dagaal ahayn oo ay galmudug Ku biiriyeen ma jirto. Sacad waa cagdheer caadiya. Ceyrkuna waa faqash caadiya. Markay u sokeeyan ama mareexaan bay galaan ama dhulbahante.

Only saleebaan uunbaa baa leh karti ay wax Ku hagaajiyaan. Because waa isaaq nimanku, dhiigu biyo maaha.

[DR-YALAXOOW]

Actually we Hawiyes are truely from a single Father compare daroods and isaaq . How i know it?
Walaahi i did DNA test 23andme. Paternal haplogroup of all Hawiyes are E- V32. Which means they are indeed from single father..


I have 915 relatives in 23andme. Almost more than 100 people i ask them what qabiil are they from.

Most people who are not from Single paternal Ancestors are ISAAQS. walaahi i saw a isaaq who are like us E- V32 and others who are J - haplogroup whichs Yemeni ancestor. And 2 isaaqs are Habesha E- M158 haplogroup. Daroods are same too. Some of they are E- V32 and others T- haplogroup and some J- haplogroup. And one Mareexaaan guy hade German swedish Haplogroup whichd R-haplogroup

This means Darood and Isaaqs are confederation.. Dad Awoowe wadaaga maaha waa dad isku tagay.

Walaaahi wali ma arag qof Hawiye sheegta oo aan aheeyn E- V32. Saynis ahaan ayaa 100% cadeeyn all E- V32 come from Single Father...

Haddii aad rabtaan Some isaaqs and daroods who have different Paternal ancestors sceeen shot ayaa idiinkaga soo qaadaa.

[original dervish]

The common ancestor may be true sxb.
However, succeeding generations of Hawiye are heavily interbred with multiple ethnicities. At this point I'd say your about 50/50 Bantu, especially Abgals.

As a general rule every odd looking Somali is invariably Hawiye. I've noticed this almost all of the time.
The archetypal Somali has about five reoccurring faces....I see this all the time. Only the Hawiye fall outside of this distinction.

[DR-YALAXOOW]

Brother 23andme even does how much procent your Bantu or Nilotic.. walaahi almost all E-V32 haplogroup have 0% Bantu.. most Bantu procent are Habesha E- M haplogroup..

iwill take some screenshots..majeerteen guy have almost 25% Bantu.. all Hawiye i saw in 23andme view have 0% Bantu blood.

Here the screenshot.
Left guy its me 100% sub sahara somali..
The right guy is Majeerteen distant relative
He has 25% Bantu

https://ibb.co/D9x2459

[mahor]

Actually we Hawiyes are truely from a single Father compare daroods and isaaq . How i know it?
Walaahi i did DNA test 23andme. Paternal haplogroup of all Hawiyes are E- V32. Which means they are indeed from single father..


I have 915 relatives in 23andme. Almost more than 100 people i ask them what qabiil are they from.

Most people who are not from Single paternal Ancestors are ISAAQS. walaahi i saw a isaaq who are like us E- V32 and others who are J - haplogroup whichs Yemeni ancestor. And 2 isaaqs are Habesha E- M158 haplogroup. Daroods are same too. Some of they are E- V32 and others T- haplogroup and some J- haplogroup. And one Mareexaaan guy hade German swedish Haplogroup whichd R-haplogroup

This means Darood and Isaaqs are confederation.. Dad Awoowe wadaaga maaha waa dad isku tagay.

Walaaahi wali ma arag qof Hawiye sheegta oo aan aheeyn E- V32. Saynis ahaan ayaa 100% cadeeyn all E- V32 come from Single Father...

Haddii aad rabtaan Some isaaqs and daroods who have different Paternal ancestors sceeen shot ayaa idiinkaga soo qaadaa.

Yes, somalis founding fathers stories are a mythology, and we're all a confederation, some sub clans are real however. But the major branches hawiye, darood, isaaq are all fake.

[Khalid Ali]

The common ancestor may be true sxb.
However, succeeding generations of Hawiye are heavily interbred with multiple ethnicities. At this point I'd say your about 50/50 Bantu, especially Abgals.

As a general rule every odd looking Somali is invariably Hawiye. I've noticed this almost all of the time.
The archetypal Somali has about five reoccurring faces....I see this all the time. Only the Hawiye fall outside of this distinction.

wa runta hawiyaha siiba murursade iyo abgaal have allot of bantu blood
sidoodana wa cawaan oo meyddadka ji jiidaan

[DR-YALAXOOW]

Walaahi caay uma aqaano our bantu brothers blood. But all hawiye Relatives on 23and me DNA test has same father. Same paternal Ancestor whit 100% Somali and 0% Arab and 0% Bantu..


Khalid Ali waligaaa DNA test ma sameeysay.??

[DR-YALAXOOW]

Bal 23andme DNA test ila fiiriya. Dhinaca Bidix waa aniga. Intaan eastern congo and Arab ka ahay waa 0%.

Halka Dhinaca Midig Abdinur waa wiiil Bacìdyahan Majeerteen ah waa 25% eastern Congo. And same Arab blood..

Alll Hawiye relatives have 100% Somali whit E- V32

[OwQariib]

The common ancestor may be true sxb.
However, succeeding generations of Hawiye are heavily interbred with multiple ethnicities. At this point I'd say your about 50/50 Bantu, especially Abgals.

As a general rule every odd looking Somali is invariably Hawiye. I've noticed this almost all of the time.
The archetypal Somali has about five reoccurring faces....I see this all the time. Only the Hawiye fall outside of this distinction.

The purest and best looking Somalis are our Madhibaan Gorgaarte Hawiye brothers for their genetic consistency in marrying among themselves. You don't even get any accolades in this trivial pissing contest sxb. Hawiye as the last remaining Jileec of Southern 'Samaalia' has kept the high line on the borders from Harar to Baraawe for centuries in order to stop your clans reaching the South in case they try to raise an army of assimilated Jareers against them as can be seen when you assimilated many Oromos and Boni hunters during your successful JL migrations. The difference between us is, Hawiyes who dabbled with these groups broke off and lost their Hawiye priviledge and would be considered one of them, e.g Banaadiri, Harari, Oromo etc. There were even stories of a Jareer burnt in Xamar gone viral for trying to marry a Lamagoodle Abgaal girl. 50/50 kulaha, yall actively recruited these groups to bolster your numbers since Hawiye is genetically proven to be a millenia older than Darod and yet remained pure Somali in all that time. You didn't catch up to Hawiye, you added the multiple ethnicities into your tribe while we lost numbers to those ethnicities.