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Awdal State Loading
Posted: Thu Feb 08, 2024 11:55 pm
by OwQariib
https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_ ... 7474692332
Dr Cali Baxar (Samaroon Bahabar Muuse) leader of the Awdal movement, arrived in Xamar and was welcomed by northern Dir (GB+Isse) SFG Ministers. These developments are changing the political landscape fast. It seems HSM is finally on board with empowering Awdal and Khaatumo to counter SL. There's just one problem, Samaroon will take a lot longer to mobilise against SL. They are heavily divided over SL statehood, some believe the MOU was the nail in the coffin for SL's social contract, some are still pro SL due to wages and a vested interest in Hargeisa i.e businesses, many others are indifferent or simply want more local funding whomever can provide so. I don't see them opening a front in Awdal unless Djibouti is inclined to help which is unlikely. Awdal is also not a 2 federal region administration. It's become clear however, that Mogadishu is trying to put pressure on Somaliland by reversing its policy on a 1 Somaliland FMS. At this pace, SL will return to 5 regions with Awdal MPs elected in Xamar. Make no mistake, many who support this pressure on SL don't realise the same thing will happen in the South to deconstruct large autonomous and rebellious FMS'.
Re: Awdal State Loading
Posted: Fri Feb 09, 2024 12:29 am
by BigBreak
Awdal will never succeed in breaking away from independent Somaliland in the way Hartis in the east currently have, albeit I'm confident Somaliland in the long run will take control over 100% of the ex British Protectorate preferably through peaceful means.
Awdal doesn't border Somalia, the Dir in Awdal are small and weak, Gadabursi and Issa hate each other more than either hate Somaliland and lastly the only alternative for being part of independent Somaliland is Awdal getting annexed by Ethiopia. These are the reasons why this joke Awdal State movement will never amount to anything
Re: Awdal State Loading
Posted: Fri Feb 09, 2024 12:54 am
by OwQariib
BigBreak wrote: Fri Feb 09, 2024 12:29 am
Awdal will never succeed in breaking away from independent Somaliland in the way Hartis in the east currently have, albeit I'm confident Somaliland in the long run will take control over 100% of the ex British Protectorate preferably through peaceful means.
Awdal doesn't border Somalia, the Dir in Awdal are small and weak, Gadabursi and Issa hate each other more than either hate Somaliland and lastly the only alternative for being part of independent Somaliland is Awdal getting annexed by Ethiopia. These are the reasons why this joke Awdal State movement will never amount to anything
You can't stop the train that is coming your way sxb. If i had to guess, HSM wants to precipitate the dissolution of SL so they can rejoin the talks on the Constitution over the next 6 months. Kulli Xamar aa lisugu imaan doona. Your qabyaalad filled swamp is going to get drained.
Re: Awdal State Loading
Posted: Fri Feb 09, 2024 2:02 am
by theyuusuf143
What ever they do has positive impact on Isaaq. I actually encourage them to take arms and cause some trouble. You give them some guns we provide the ammunition, the first peaple they will target are ciise, and we want ciise to come back to awdal and repopulate their ancestoral land.
Re: Awdal State Loading
Posted: Fri Feb 09, 2024 6:08 am
by BigBreak
Nothing is going to happen I think but let's see
Re: Awdal State Loading
Posted: Fri Feb 09, 2024 7:16 am
by Khalid Ali
i never worry about gadabuuursi first gadabuursi people the vast majority of the People are behind SL
GADABUURIS isnt darood or isnt related to hawiye. there is no point for gadabuursi to fight for walanweyn cause first gadabuursi doesnt get anything from xamar. for example Isaaq gets more in the bunker then gadabuursi ever can dream of.
what walanweyn fail to realise is that gadabuursi and isaaq have created a good political reality of SL not always great but they have developed a political culture and identity together which is so profound .. U cant compare it tot he Qurjis and wasakhgalis the qurjiiles joined only in 2007 and the wasakhgali never were fully on boeard 50 50. There for i absolutely no worry about gadabuursi at all there absolutly nothing coming opposition from gadabuursi lets say dooms day scenario culusos supports gadabuursi to do an uprise lets say riots happen and the SL security peopel does bandow shootings allot of people arrested. and it is put down , culusow then wants to send troops to Awdal how is he going to do that cant do it via cagjar cant do it via jabuuti cant do it via sea , if he wanted to arm the qurjiiles this would have been easy he can do it via puntland but this is a logistical night mare all he can do is cheerlead he cant do anything else for gadabuursi if there were to be uprise
also what we need to note if culuosw does and bring homless guys from canada to xamar
and claim they are the representetive of awdal in xamar for a fake constitution he claims to draft
its time for SL to bring hiiraan state leaders and every other person that hates culusow laftagareeen and others also
Re: Awdal State Loading
Posted: Fri Feb 09, 2024 7:23 am
by Khalid Ali
Re: Awdal State Loading
Posted: Fri Feb 09, 2024 8:58 am
by LaY-D_LicK
Loading fish state of Somalia
Re: Awdal State Loading
Posted: Fri Feb 09, 2024 12:53 pm
by theyuusuf143
Khalid Ali wrote: Fri Feb 09, 2024 7:16 am
i never worry about gadabuuursi first gadabuursi people the vast majority of the People are behind SL
GADABUURIS isnt darood or isnt related to hawiye. there is no point for gadabuursi to fight for walanweyn cause first gadabuursi doesnt get anything from xamar. for example Isaaq gets more in the bunker then gadabuursi ever can dream of.
what walanweyn fail to realise is that gadabuursi and isaaq have created a good political reality of SL not always great but they have developed a political culture and identity together which is so profound .. U cant compare it tot he Qurjis and wasakhgalis the qurjiiles joined only in 2007 and the wasakhgali never were fully on boeard 50 50. There for i absolutely no worry about gadabuursi at all there absolutly nothing coming opposition from gadabuursi lets say dooms day scenario culusos supports gadabuursi to do an uprise lets say riots happen and the SL security peopel does bandow shootings allot of people arrested. and it is put down , culusow then wants to send troops to Awdal how is he going to do that cant do it via cagjar cant do it via jabuuti cant do it via sea , if he wanted to arm the qurjiiles this would have been easy he can do it via puntland but this is a logistical night mare all he can do is cheerlead he cant do anything else for gadabuursi if there were to be uprise
also what we need to note if culuosw does and bring homless guys from canada to xamar
and claim they are the representetive of awdal in xamar for a fake constitution he claims to draft
its time for SL to bring hiiraan state leaders and every other person that hates culusow laftagareeen and others also
Don't speak for them , adeer Cid isaaq jecel ma jirto. Somalida oo dhan Isaaq nacayb bay Ku wada socdaan including qudhunbiirsay. Aad haw leefleefi dantooda yagaa kaa yaqaan , haday meeshooda gubayaan gaastaynu u dhawaynayna. Haday hagaajinayaana rinjigaynu ugu darayna. Don't try to lecture them . Khalad kasta oo kadhaca isaaq faa,iidaa ugu jirta.
Re: Awdal State Loading
Posted: Fri Feb 09, 2024 1:14 pm
by DR-YALAXOOW
Khalid Ali wrote: Fri Feb 09, 2024 7:16 am
i never worry about gadabuuursi first gadabuursi people the vast majority of the People are behind SL
GADABUURIS
Walaahi Been baad sheegtay. Waligeey ma arag Gadabuursi aaminsan Somaliland walaahi..
Waxaan deganahay Sweden walaahi view gadabuursi ayaan aqaanaa. Wali waa ii dhiman yahay gadabuursi wata Calanka Somaliland..
Waan hubaa haddii cod laga qaado gadabuursi inay 90% yihiin pro united Somalia.. sidoo kale sido Goojacade dhulooz idiinkugu xasuuqeen. Gadabuursi haddiii ay hub helaan ilama aha inay meel fadhinayaan. Waa ay xureysanayaan Awdalland.
Re: Awdal State Loading
Posted: Fri Feb 09, 2024 1:26 pm
by theyuusuf143
DR-YALAXOOW wrote: Fri Feb 09, 2024 1:14 pm
Khalid Ali wrote: Fri Feb 09, 2024 7:16 am
i never worry about gadabuuursi first gadabuursi people the vast majority of the People are behind SL
GADABUURIS
Walaahi Been baad sheegtay. Waligeey ma arag Gadabuursi aaminsan Somaliland walaahi..
Waxaan deganahay Sweden walaahi view gadabuursi ayaan aqaanaa. Wali waa ii dhiman yahay gadabuursi wata Calanka Somaliland..
Waan hubaa haddii cod laga qaado gadabuursi inay 90% yihiin pro united Somalia.. sidoo kale sido Goojacade dhulooz idiinkugu xasuuqeen. Gadabuursi haddiii ay hub helaan ilama aha inay meel fadhinayaan. Waa ay xureysanayaan Awdalland.
You donkey they dont care about you too , the qudhunbiirsay are pro daarod. They were the first who responded to abiy axmed , before muuse biixi, And we accepted their challenge. Xitaa majeerteen Ku waa ardayda isaaqa. Waxaanu samayno uunbay Ku daydaan. That's the truth. Yagiiba hada raadinaya bad ay kireeyaan. Wake up niyaw .
Re: Awdal State Loading
Posted: Fri Feb 09, 2024 1:39 pm
by mahor
If you look at this without bias you'll find that most gadabursi either support somaliland or believe in it half-heartedly, i think the unionists are a minority today. However they are not fanatically devoted to somaliland but are pragmatic and realistic about the current situation. However i believe most swing to supporting somalia and even fight for it if a better alternative appeared. The gadabursi and (parts of) isaaq are historic rivals and they dont carry the resentment and hatred for the south or barre's gov that the isaaqs do.
The ball is in xamar's court, somalia's unity is predicated on xamar becoming a secure and sovereign state. Southerners love for anarchy and propensity for self destruction is 33 years running the greatest impediment facing the somali people.
Re: Awdal State Loading
Posted: Fri Feb 09, 2024 1:53 pm
by original dervish
I hope these samaroon pieces of shiid revolt so the iidoors can massacre them.
We have inna Ambashe and hundreds of out of work horgals that we can send to Borama to quell any uprising.
After losing SSC, somaliland can't afford to lose Awdal.
Any dissent must be instantly crushed into the dirt.
Re: Awdal State Loading
Posted: Fri Feb 09, 2024 3:07 pm
by theyuusuf143
original dervish wrote: Fri Feb 09, 2024 1:53 pm
I hope these samaroon pieces of shiid revolt so the iidoors can massacre them.
We have inna Ambashe and hundreds of out of work horgals that we can send to Borama to quell any uprising.
After losing SSC, somaliland can't afford to lose Awdal.
Any dissent must be instantly crushed into the dirt.
We actually want all non isaaqs to revolt. Because we have too Many alternative plans . For example you too are a Somalilander. But we don't give a shit about you. What makes think we care about gadabursi . Dantooda haday garan waayaan anagu u tilmaami mayno. In fact waxaanu Ku dhiirigelinayna inay awdal qasaan.
Re: Awdal State Loading
Posted: Fri Feb 09, 2024 3:11 pm
by BigBreak
It's not feasible for Awdal to leave independent Somaliland without the big bad Xabashi wolf devouring it