Damn......who's advising these iidoors?

[original dervish]

Can someone tell me what the f is going on with these nig gas.

Who in their right mind thought it would be a good idea to procure some aviation communication technologies and begin freelancing across the skies? This is what the iidoors have been up to recently.

A disaster was narrowly averted when a Qatar Airways jet was given conflicting altitude adjustment instructions as it flew over Djibouti enroute to Mogadishu.

Aviation law has since 1944 been based around sovereignty. A basic principle of international air law is that every state has complete and exclusive sovereignty over the airspace above its territory, including its territorial sea.

Somalia has full sovereignty over the airspace of Somalia and is a member of the ICAO through its UN membership
The International Civil Aviation Organization is a specialized agency of the United Nations that coordinates the principles and techniques of international air navigation, and fosters the planning and development of international air transport to ensure safe and orderly growth.

The actions of SL have been called terroristic and criminal. This has been a publicity nightmare.
Who the hell in their right minds would recognise these monkeys?

[gobdoon]

They playing dirty tricks without thinking consequences, you know what they're like Lascanood, Goojacade and all that
Imagine if you board a vehicle steered by mad man like Muse Biixi

[original dervish]

They playing dirty tricks without thinking consequences, you know what they're like Lascanood, Goojacade and all that
Imagine if you board a vehicle steered by mad man like Muse Biixi

Yes, we know these liquor soaked khat addicts better than most.........even so, who would contrive such a hapless and farcical endeavour. Its like iidoor foreign policy is being conducted in the local marfish with two bunches and a bottle of the stiff stuff.

This nonsense has backfired spectacularly on the iidoors. They have essentially pis sed into the wind, only for it to blow back into their goofy faces.

Already Somalia has begun to capitalise on iidoor incompetence and malfeasance by reporting sl to the ICAO and demanding an investigation. Furthermore, Somalia will now strip sl of all aviation management privileges it bestowed upon them in 2023 as a goodwill gesture.

These calamitous iidoors are their own worst enemy.

[Khalid Ali]

if you don't control the ground you don't control the airspace. Thats the very fact that is important to note to seay the least



The Somaliland republic can issue it's own clearances meaning there are planes taking off and landing without Mogadishu's authorization that means planes flying through Somaliland airspace at least need information from Somaliland. Somaliland can even issue flight level changes and reclearances and they could ignore them but based on other similar situations they would just get confirmation from Mogadishu and then follow the direction.

So basically if you don't control the ground and can't ground flights and have state-like entities in your 'sovereign territory' that can afford the necessary equipment, let alone operate international airports with mulitple carriers, The bunker doesnt don't control the airspace..

Further more Somaliland policy is actually amazing they should continue with this path it works and it should work and it can work..
Somalia would control Somaliland airspace if it controlled the two main airports in Somaliland Berbera airport. And Hargeisa cigaal international airport had they controlled both of our airports they would have controlled the airspace . So when they say Sovreignty icou and all of that it solely only when a country controls the airports of their supposed republic all its airports Then they control the airspace , But The bunker doesnt control anything outside the Bunker.
Somaliland will continue to send mixed signal jamming the frequancy telling airplanes where to go and when to go until icou or other international agency intervenes and let us come to another discussion and we will show them the Somaliland Somalia talks comminique in which the walanweyn accepted that the airspace will by jointly managed share the revenue complete joint managment as it said in the agreement if u were honest OD u would have said and called uppong the walanweyn to uphold the agreeement they signed wiht Somaliland



This is the agreement

No: 197, 10 July 2013, Press Release Regarding the Second Round of Talks between Somalia and Somaliland
The second round of the talks between Somalia and Somaliland was hosted in Istanbul by H.E. Mr. Ahmet Davutoğlu, Minister of Foreign Affairs of the Republic of Turkey, between 7 and 9 July 2013. The delegations were led by H.E. Mr. Abdulkarim Guled, Minister of Interior of the Federal Government of Somalia and H.E. Mr. Mohamed Omar, Minister of Trade and International Investment of Somaliland. A communiqué on the issues agreed upon was adopted at the end of the meeting. The communiqué provides that the body which will jointly control the airspace of Somalia and Somaliland will be established in Hargeisa, that the talks will continue and that the next round will be held in Turkey within 120 days.

7. Referring to the Communiqué of the two parties Dialogue in Istanbul, Turkey on 7-
9/July 2013. The parties agreed to nominate Air Traffic Control Board to establish within
45 days.
8. The parties agreed to appoint an ad-hoc technical committee composed of 4 members,
( two from each party) to prepare the terms of reference of the Air Traffic Control Board.
The Technical Committee work will be supervised by the respective two Ministers.
9. We share the pain inflicted upon the Somali people by the military regime in Somalia before
the year 1991. We condemn all the atrocities committed by that regime throughout all Somali

[gobdoon]

No more leniency, you have shown Goojacade and else where you simply don't want to die what you believe, but have only big mouth that makes worse situation you're in

[original dervish]

Khalid.....you've clearly lost your mind......if you ever had one to begin with.

If sl continues to interfere with international aviation....threatening the safety of aircraft and passengers, the international community will come down on sl like a ton of bricks.

Do you really believe air piracy will lead to international recognition? It seems I was right when stated.....sl foreign policy is being run from the marfish and speakeasy's of Hargeisa.

Sl is a beggar entity that can't survive without various types of aid etc. All the international community has to do is cut off payments and sl will collapse.

[theyuusuf143]

What payment ? Have you seen all our budgets in the past. There is no one dollar coming from outside in our budget. Our biggest infrastructure partners are the UAE and UK . And that's not charity they both have shares in our ports and oil blocks. If there is free money why don't you get some for your qurjiile faqash in lascaanod?

Somaliland has reputation of self sufficiency. We never begged any one. We only demand respect, and open for cooperation. This is how the world sees us. They actually do case studies about how we survive in Africa without aid. https://academic.oup.com/cornell-schola ... ogin=false

[theyuusuf143]

Somalidu waxay noo arkaan reer yaroo iidoors ladhahoo yaga kamida. Anaguna waxaanu Isu aragna dad ummada geeska Africa Ka fadilan . Waxaas xiniinyahaya Naga laalaada ee qurjiilaha yo qudhunbiirsay gu kaw Ka yihiin. Waa laangaab yo aanu waxayaga Ku casuunay.

Ciirtaa dhamaa caydaa yaqaan bay somalidu Ku maah maahdaa. No more. Dib danbe laysugu sii dhex huursanaan maayo nin kastaaba wuxu awaawgii ahaa buu noqon doona. Hadaanu isaaq isaaq Nahay xiniinyihayaga banaanka baanu dhiganay. Cir bad iyo dhulba waanu leenahay. Bal ninkii wax naga qaban karaw halagu arko.

[original dervish]

What payment ? Have you seen all our budgets in the past. There is no one dollar coming from outside in our budget. Our biggest infrastructure partners are the UAE and UK . And that's not charity they both have shares in our ports and oil blocks. If there is free money why don't you get some for your qurjiile faqash in lascaanod?

Somaliland has reputation of self sufficiency. We never begged any one. We only demand respect, and open for cooperation. This is how the world sees us. They actually do case studies about how we survive in Africa without aid. https://academic.oup.com/cornell-schola ... ogin=false

Who are you trying to fool?
Continue your reckless air piracy and see what happens.
Sl receives all types of development aid.
As do Somalia and all of the Federal states.
Actually Khaatumo has recently received its first direct foreign aid.......around $2.6 million .

[theyuusuf143]

That's not financial aid that's relief for the IDPs.

We can do what ever we want in our airspace we will even encourage daarood traitors to do the same and mess up the whole thing. Our Goal is very clear Somalia must be dismantled for good. They refused to respect our hard earned independence, trying to annex somaliland peice by peice. We will make sure Somalia to never ever stand on it's own feet . Let's see who suffers the most.

[original dervish]

Good luck with that.

[OwQariib]

Last kicks of a dying horse. What Somaliland did constitutes international terrorism. Xataa caalamkii ay ictiraafka ka baryayeen ayaa ku xanaaqaya. With 1 phone call and 1 signature, Mogadishu can order a global flight, land and sea blockade on Somaliland. They'll have to send vehicles to pick up their food and products from Las Anod and Bosaso.

[original dervish]

Last kicks of a dying horse. What Somaliland did constitutes international terrorism. Xataa caalamkii ay ictiraafka ka baryayeen ayaa ku xanaaqaya. With 1 phone call and 1 signature, Mogadishu can order a global flight, land and sea blockade on Somaliland. They'll have to send vehicles to pick up their food and products from Las Anod and Bosaso.

The idiocy of the iidoors is astonishing.
SL has played themselves right into the hands of Mogadishu. HSM can now exact a painful price for iidoor malfeasance.

[OwQariib]

Last kicks of a dying horse. What Somaliland did constitutes international terrorism. Xataa caalamkii ay ictiraafka ka baryayeen ayaa ku xanaaqaya. With 1 phone call and 1 signature, Mogadishu can order a global flight, land and sea blockade on Somaliland. They'll have to send vehicles to pick up their food and products from Las Anod and Bosaso.

The idiocy of the iidoors is astonishing.
SL has played themselves right into the hands of Mogadishu. HSM can now exact a painful price for iidoor malfeasance.

Never underestimate a human's ability to self sabotage, like a kid who throws its toys out the pram when they aren't happy. Waad arkaysay wuxu Yusuf soo qoray, he thinks its Isaaq against the World .
They have even been caught in a twist with the recent assasination of the Isaaq aviation fella, he was a PNG according to SL but suddenly now that he's dead they want answers? Wiilka intuu noolaay uma xisaabsanayn miyaa?

[theyuusuf143]

Last kicks of a dying horse. What Somaliland did constitutes international terrorism. Xataa caalamkii ay ictiraafka ka baryayeen ayaa ku xanaaqaya. With 1 phone call and 1 signature, Mogadishu can order a global flight, land and sea blockade on Somaliland. They'll have to send vehicles to pick up their food and products from Las Anod and Bosaso.

33 years of building the best image and reputation one can have in Africa didn't help our cause . In this world the trouble makers are paid to be neutralized. So why do we have to be quite when we can make some noise. Get used to our new zero sum game policy.