Why is Ethiopia still prevaricating over JSL recognition

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Why is Ethiopia still prevaricating over JSL recognition

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In my opinion the government of Somaliland hasn't done enough to convince Ethiopia why them recognising our independence in exchange for gaining access to our coast is worthwhile and not costly. Are the Ethiopians scared about DDSI revolting or what? DDSI should view Somaliland independence as the solution to overcoming the challenges of being part of a landlocked country held hostage by a rogue clan state called Djibouti (most Djiboutians are Ciise yet all Ciise who aren't Maamasan are second class citizens)
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Re: Why is Ethiopia still prevaricating over JSL recognition

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I think they are bit scared of the walanweyn bluff if they can come over that i dont see why we cant sign the agreeement
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Khalid Ali wrote: Sat Jul 13, 2024 5:23 pm I think they are bit scared of the walanweyn bluff if they can come over that i dont see why we cant sign the agreeement
I will recognise you as Republic of Iidoooristan, not somaliland is it enough to you?

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Khalid Ali wrote: Sat Jul 13, 2024 5:23 pm I think they are bit scared of the walanweyn bluff if they can come over that i dont see why we cant sign the agreeement
Abiy keeps saying this MOU respects the so called Somali unity when surely he knows that without Ethiopia recognising Somaliland as independent there will no deal to grant them sea access at all. Let's not forget he was very pro midnimo and pro FGS when Farmajo was President

The cost of Ethiopia recognising Somaliland independence is much smaller than the cost of Ethiopia remaining in practice landlocked. They would be foolish to reject this historic opportunity
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Re: Why is Ethiopia still prevaricating over JSL recognition

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Xaartoobia is apprehensive or fearful that the same thing may happen to them in the future, we know Habashi dont care about somali unity but at the sametine they are trying not to offend or upset Somali federal gov. secondly Xaartoobia Isn't politically amatuers, they know how international laws work.
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Re: Why is Ethiopia still prevaricating over JSL recognition

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The longer the process takes the better for us , it will give us more time to evaluate the whole thing. What's in it for us . Every thing should be Tailored the way we want . Because we are in control of the situation. Ethiopia has no choice. And Somalia/, Djibouti Can't stop us.

The reality is both Ethiopia and Somalia wants to annex our country. The only difference is Ethiopia wants it slowly and more progressively probably without bloodshed. But the somalis wants to destroy us into pieces as fast as they can, using any method they can deploy , qabyaalad , regionalism , social mistrust, civil wars terrorism etc. They want somaliland to disappear completely.

We have to keep that in mind. And think about the decisions we are taking.
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The reality is both Ethiopia and Somalia wants to annex our country

After the collapse of the Ottoman Empire in 1918, North Yemen became an independent republic while South Yemen continued under the British until Britain withdrew in 1967,,they remained two separate independent countries for more than 23 years,,Yemeni reunification took place on 22 May 1990,,, so if i say Yemen wants to annex north Yeman,,, does that make any sense to you?.
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Xingalol wrote: Sun Jul 14, 2024 7:46 am
The reality is both Ethiopia and Somalia wants to annex our country

After the collapse of the Ottoman Empire in 1918, North Yemen became an independent republic while South Yemen continued under the British until Britain withdrew in 1967,,they remained two separate independent countries for more than 23 years,,Yemeni reunification took place on 22 May 1990,,, so if i say Yemen wants to annex north Yeman,,, does that make any sense to you?.
The Southern yeminis feel annexed by the more numerous northerners . And today eden is run by the STC separitists. They are completely against the north.

The only similarities between us , is they United then separated today, even though STC administration is not recognised by any country.

In somaliland particularly our isaaq peaple we believe somalia annexed somaliland , our peaple voted against the unification in 1961, and the act of Union has never been ratified. We never shared any thing in common with other somalis. Except the invasion of Ethiopia , which we proposed and fully supported it's implementation by the kacaan. The whole reason we teamed up with somalia was one purpose. We wanted to get more manpower to gain our Hawd territory back knowing that other somalis are also very interested.

Since then we barely agree on any issue. We completely have given up dealing with the somalis. Because there is lack of common interests between us.
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Ethiopia will do whatever is in their interests.
Illegally recognising sl not in the long term interests of Ethiopia. If Ethiopia recognises sl then Mogadishu can likewise Illegally recognise the independence of the Ogaden. This will lead to political chaos and war.
The Ethiopians have rightly concluded that this is not in their national interests.

For Khaatumo it's good sl remains in continued limbo and isolation. They have proved they are our open enemy.
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Somaliland should have waited until Ethiopia is in a stronger position regarding its internal situation, their military is fighting rebel groups in multiple regions and is getting weaker yet Abiy is obsessed with sea access nevertheless lol

We should have negotiated with Djibouti instead whereby in exchange for Djibouti recognising Somaliland independence officially, our two countries would form a confederation with Guelleh as its leader and Somaliland would support Djibouti having a total monopoly over Ethiopian imports and exports
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original dervish wrote: Sun Jul 14, 2024 8:39 am Ethiopia will do whatever is in their interests.
Illegally recognising sl not in the long term interests of Ethiopia. If Ethiopia recognises sl then Mogadishu can likewise Illegally recognise the independence of the Ogaden. This will lead to political chaos and war.
The Ethiopians have rightly concluded that this is not in their national interests.

For Khaatumo it's good sl remains in continued limbo and isolation. They have proved they are our open enemy.
Political chaos and war is the most preferred sports in the horn of Africa. You are making it like it's big deal. Disaster is the key to solution. By the way it's way better for us to be an open enemies. Then be hypocrite brothers. I don't understand how we are isolated when we are at the centre of theatre. An isolation is when you are minding your business at the corner and you are not messing around with any one. :lol:
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Re: Why is Ethiopia still prevaricating over JSL recognition

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theyuusuf143 wrote: Sun Jul 14, 2024 9:05 am
original dervish wrote: Sun Jul 14, 2024 8:39 am Ethiopia will do whatever is in their interests.
Illegally recognising sl not in the long term interests of Ethiopia. If Ethiopia recognises sl then Mogadishu can likewise Illegally recognise the independence of the Ogaden. This will lead to political chaos and war.
The Ethiopians have rightly concluded that this is not in their national interests.

For Khaatumo it's good sl remains in continued limbo and isolation. They have proved they are our open enemy.
Political chaos and war is the most preferred sports in the horn of Africa. You are making it like it's big deal. Disaster is the key to solution. By the way it's way better for us to be an open enemies. Then be hypocrite brothers. I don't understand how we are isolated when we are at the centre of theatre. An isolation is when you are minding your business at the corner and you are not messing around with any one. :lol:
You are in your corner.....and just mouthing off.
Sl can't do anything except make worthless statements.
Khaatumo is now a reality that the world has accepted.
Nobody in the world has accepted an independent sl.
I say again to all iidoor people........peace is better than war.
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Re: Why is Ethiopia still prevaricating over JSL recognition

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original dervish wrote: Sun Jul 14, 2024 11:56 am
theyuusuf143 wrote: Sun Jul 14, 2024 9:05 am
original dervish wrote: Sun Jul 14, 2024 8:39 am Ethiopia will do whatever is in their interests.
Illegally recognising sl not in the long term interests of Ethiopia. If Ethiopia recognises sl then Mogadishu can likewise Illegally recognise the independence of the Ogaden. This will lead to political chaos and war.
The Ethiopians have rightly concluded that this is not in their national interests.

For Khaatumo it's good sl remains in continued limbo and isolation. They have proved they are our open enemy.
Political chaos and war is the most preferred sports in the horn of Africa. You are making it like it's big deal. Disaster is the key to solution. By the way it's way better for us to be an open enemies. Then be hypocrite brothers. I don't understand how we are isolated when we are at the centre of theatre. An isolation is when you are minding your business at the corner and you are not messing around with any one. :lol:
You are in your corner.....and just mouthing off.
Sl can't do anything except make worthless statements.
Khaatumo is now a reality that the world has accepted.
Nobody in the world has accepted an independent sl.
I say again to all iidoor people........peace is better than war.
Peace is threat to us. Just look back our track record . We maintained the peace better than any other African country without the involvement of foreigners. The more we keep the peace , the More minorities like yours abused it. You took it as a weakness. So tell me why should I keep doing something that didn't yield any positive outcome for my isaaq peaple. We will take the opposite path and follow the trend like every one else.
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Re: Why is Ethiopia still prevaricating over JSL recognition

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Nabada oo la ilaaliya waxay na gaadhsiisay heer minorities Ku Iska dhaadhiciyaan inaanu nahay kalluun badweyn ay leeyihiin Ku dhex nool. Oo hadaanu badooda Ka baxno bakhtiyeyno. :lol: imagine this.
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Re: Why is Ethiopia still prevaricating over JSL recognition

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The Ethiopians are ensuring that Turkey does not pose a threat to their navy and military base in Somaliland once they establish it there. This is why discussions are ongoing between Turkey, Ethiopia, and the bunker Once these discussions are resolved, I believe the Ethiopians will proceed with their plans. They are determined to secure a sea outlet, and Somaliland is their only viable option there. Djibouti will not permit it, and Somalia's objections would appear hypocritical if they reject a Somaliland agreement while contemplating their own deal with Ethiopia. Kenya is too distant to be a factor, and Eritrea, being a sworn enemy, poses a significant risk; pursuing the Eritrean route would likely result in war, given Eritrea's strength in military.
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