As an ultra right wing isaaqist,. I support Hassan sheikh.

[theyuusuf143]

May God bless him .

[barbarossa]

^ Ustaad yusuf, when your ultra right wing party assumes power in hargeisa, you should immediately adapt "iidoor first" policy.. No more Mr. Nice Guy, always trying to appease the treacherous fifth column minority clans oo kula jiro kaana jiro..

[Khalid Ali]

Your nothing but a traitor how can u. Support a person that utterly hates Somaliland makes no sense

Hassan sheikh hadu ku yidha isaaq wa adoomaday u will say ye massa I love u and support u

[Khalid Ali]

I support any one who wants to depose culusow. Amisom alshabaab I hope they behead him even the filthy Jabarti al khadam can take him out. Hope deni takes him out

[theyuusuf143]

^ Ustaad yusuf, when your ultra right wing party assumes power in hargeisa, you should immediately adapt "iidoor first" policy.. No more Mr. Nice Guy, always trying to appease the treacherous fifth column minority clans oo kula jiro kaana jiro..

There is no doubt about that .

[theyuusuf143]

Your nothing but a traitor how can u. Support a person that utterly hates Somaliland makes no sense

Hassan sheikh hadu ku yidha isaaq wa adoomaday u will say ye massa I love u and support u

You are the traitor not me. I refused any Somali to outsmart me. Why would I accept an oromo to play with me. I refuse the window shopping of abiy. I support Hassan sheikh efforts . Let him work . All I care about is business. I have nothing to gain from an Ethiopian naval base. I don't trust them. Abiy didn't not honor our mind blowing offer. He became even more greedy.

Prepare war you piece of shiiit. Kill both the somalis and Ethiopians. Trust no body , not even the UN . The only way we can survive is to fight , if we don't have that energy. We should bring back those we ousted because of their higher ambitions. Peacetime time era is over. Welcome to the hell . All our bucbuc kids should be trained to fight . They consumed too much laxoox..

[Khalid Ali]

If hassan sheikh wins then u lose there is no way that u can both win well unless of hassan sheikh concedes and recognises somaliland before the Ethiopians so far now we have offered the Ethiopians the best offer they can ever get they cannot get that from the walanweyns. How ever they got cold feet because of the bluff of the walanweyn what the Ethiopians don’t know is that. The walanweyn are all but empty threats Somaliland loses nothing by hosting an Ethiopia naval force. So hassan sheikh hawiye and dooros have to lose for us to win and I will do everting to destroy Lacag baad ka sheekeneysa anaguna dawladnimo qaranimada Somaliland sheegeya

[theyuusuf143]

If Ethiopia recognition makes sense. They already recognise Somaliland practically. And even if they give us a formal recognition.we Won't be any different than nothern Cyprus, Abkhazia or south Ossetia. Only Ethiopia and may be few others may recognise Somaliland. I don't believe that Somaliland will receive a worldwide recognition in our lifetime. As long as somalia is protesting.

A deal with Ethiopia is double edged sword. It can be a win win , or the beginning of greater disaster. Never put your eggs in one basket. When Ethiopia takes one step back. We should take 3 steps back. They are the one's in need today, Not us.

Money is very important. Our whole objective with this MoU is take our rightful piece of the Ethiopian economy pie. Which is projected to be huge.

[Khalid Ali]

If Ethiopia recognition makes sense. They already recognise Somaliland practically. And even if they give us a formal recognition.we Won't be any different than nothern Cyprus, Abkhazia or south Ossetia. Only Ethiopia and may be few others may recognise Somaliland. I don't believe that Somaliland will receive a worldwide recognition in our lifetime. As long as somalia is protesting.

A deal with Ethiopia is double edged sword. It can be a win win , or the beginning of greater disaster. Never put your eggs in one basket. When Ethiopia takes one step back. We should take 3 steps back. They are the one's in need today, Not us.

Money is very important. Our whole objective with this MoU is take our rightful piece of the Ethiopian economy pie. Which is projected to be huge.

Though making revenue and money is important to a nation. How ever we want to establish the principles of being a country among nations hence why money is not important in this

We isaaq know how to money as know other

Ye Ethiopia needs us but we need them as well they might need us more. Yes Ethiopia recognises somaliland as a de facto state formality is important in international law. Yes they have accepted our passports as have other counties we have a diplomatic office in Addis Ababa. They have a diplomat in hargeisa with the rank of an ambassador . But state to state recognition is dejure recognition has a clear other meaning in international law and that is what we want to establish if they formally recognised somaliland independence you do not know other. Africans nations won’t follow they might or they might not .anigu I believe if we really want diplomatic recognition we need to bring the childeren of jacob to somaliland and have ties with Israel. Israel controls America by no time of Israel recognises somaliland America will to. Halkasay ka dhowdahay we should give a military base to Israel to . That should be our approach and if you scared for houthis bombing us we can establish other ties with Israel instead of giving them a military base

Remember when we talked to the west their talking point was always well it’s something for africa to decide somaliland recognition is something for the au and the African countries
This was their talking point all the time when we asked them to recognise our countries independence from the most failed state anus of Africa

So it would be hypocritical of the west if we have an African nation recognise us and they don’t take any step

I think if we manage to implement the deal mou then Ethiopia will recognise us And we will be just like westen Sahara we will have a dozen countries in africa and maybe a dozen in Asia that recognise us but no United nation seat and that is fine Kosovo and Palestine also don’t have seats at the un. If we get state to state diplomatic recognition form counties that fine that will elevate Our status as a nation and it will strengthen our case the walanweyns this whole protest and stuff is not aimed against Ethiopia it’s aimed against somaliland recognition
That is what they want to stop walanweyntu

[theyuusuf143]

Forget about ictiraaf

Money is the most important thing in this world , we can be charge of our country as long as we can generate more money. It doesn't matter if you are country, a mafia or a terrorist. You need lot's of resources
and weapons and courage to maintain your authority. The houthis should inspire us , why do we have to collaborate with their enemies. If we befriend with them we may get access to their arsenal. Or convince them to hide some of their strategic weapons in our territory.

As soon as we finish this useless election. All energy companies should be called , no more excuses , those who are very serious should start the field work as soon as possible. Those who are dragging their feet should be cancelled. We need Billions of dollars .

We should even explore other illegal methods of generating income . Because in the future we will face a series of economy embargo. Ethiopia will always need us , more than we will ever need them. Large number of their population depends on us, Economically, this abiy kid from addis is not in control of oromia. And that's our area of importance. We don't care tigray or amhara region. It's important that we should have direct relationship with the oromian business peaple and cultural leaders.

[Khalid Ali]

I don’t disagree with you that we should build bussines ventures and new econmic fields such oil exploration we should do all of that but we should never forget that we want and want our own nation and that should be at all cost to be the objective only with recognition we can destroy the walanweyns that is the only card that they have against us and we must take it back .

[theyuusuf143]

We have a lot to worry other than ictiraaf. Even the West can turn against us once we grow some little balls and start to question them . their worst method of karbaash is sanctions and economy embargo. I have seen how tigray lost the war I don't want the same thing to happen to us. Tigray lost the war for 2 reasons.

1. Lack of capital, all cash in their hands were birr, abiy changed the whole currency .

2. Geographical disadvantage. All their neighbours were enemies. This resulted tigray peaple to be starved to death.

Similarly isaaq are surrounded by enemies from all directions. If you include the the filth turkeys. Who may block us from the sea.

What ever we earn , from any thing. Should be kept outside the traceable financial networks, Somalia can shut down any account in dahabshiil or other banks . Many normal countries are adopting crypto. So should we.

[Khalid Ali]

No it cannot somallia is not America they can’t even shot down an account in Mogadishu let’s say even if all financial institutions were run by Somalia we could still locate our wealth to other offshore counts or jabuuti or Kenya .

What h don’t understand is recognition is a wapeon to protect ur self why somaliland vulnerable it’s because of lack of recognition once u have recogntion no one can stop u , see how powerful recognition is. The bunker because they are recognised they forced Ethiopia to negotiate or to double think about the mou. All the international community re affirms territorial integrity of Somalia bla bla its lip service but it s a powerful tool the problem for the walanweyn is recognition is good if u also have territorial control over ur land then u can enforce all the policy u want We have territorial integrity but no recognition they have no territorial control but have recognition . Imagine if we had recognition how we could fuck then up we fucked then up with the mou with out recognition imagine how we can fuck them up with recognition u have the understand the power of diplomatic recognition

Tigray had oromo and Amhara and Eritrea problem our main enemy is just hawiye and daarood that’s it not Ethiopia not yemen not jabuuti

[Murax]

Tbh the Qabiliste in me supports Khalid Ali, but the Somali Wadani in me supports theYuusuf here. Why? Khalid doesn’t have this inferiority acting like a liberated former slave Cuqdad complex towards Darood that TheYuusuf has. To him all Italian Somalia is the same, Hawiye, Darood, D&M.

The reason I support theYuusuf is in general for the sake of Somalis I support him embracing the whole IRIR complex, being team with his Hawoye brothers so it could be a step towards Somalis just moving on once and for all. Khalid Ali’s mindset is more dangerous for Somalia overall. Well done TheYuusuf

[theyuusuf143]

No it cannot somallia is not America they can’t even shot down an account in Mogadishu let’s say even if all financial institutions were run by Somalia we could still locate our wealth to other offshore counts or jabuuti or Kenya .

What h don’t understand is recognition is a wapeon to protect ur self why somaliland vulnerable it’s because of lack of recognition once u have recogntion no one can stop u , see how powerful recognition is. The bunker because they are recognised they forced Ethiopia to negotiate or to double think about the mou. All the international community re affirms territorial integrity of Somalia bla bla its lip service but it s a powerful tool the problem for the walanweyn is recognition is good if u also have territorial control over ur land then u can enforce all the policy u want We have territorial integrity but no recognition they have no territorial control but have recognition . Imagine if we had recognition how we could fuck then up we fucked then up with the mou with out recognition imagine how we can fuck them up with recognition u have the understand the power of diplomatic recognition

Tigray had oromo and Amhara and Eritrea problem our main enemy is just hawiye and daarood that’s it not Ethiopia not yemen not jabuuti

I genuinely don't care that recognition thing. But go ahead , you bring it , and let me deal with the practical things. Our Goals are the same anyway.