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Don’t disgrace your proud ancestors. These Xabashi are openly supporting boasting on social media about greater Ethiopia. Don’t do this Wa Salamualaykum

I lost words to describe this level of hypocrisy coming from you. Ladies and gentlemen here we have a mareexan brother whose whole territory inside somalia is 'protected' by Ethiopia since 1991. Long before the Islamic courts or alshabaab. And he is lecturing Isaaqs who have never seen foreign troops in their entire life.

The iidoor aren't going anywhere.......mark my words.
If they were gonna get recognition it would have happened decades ago.

The reality is that the world isn't about to create a 3rd Somali state alongside Djibouti and Somalia.
It just ain't gonna happen.

What sl will get is a few butter biscuits and pennies thrown at them by the international community, as they say.......your not like the other niggas......you is good niggas.

Iidoors always try to achieve their Goals by any means.

If you see iidoor pansomalist , he truly believes it. If you see iidoor terrorist , he is definitely very dangerous. If you see iidoor somalilanders they practice what they preach. What ever we do , we do it very passionately.

We are the trend setters and other Somalis follow our footsteps while hating us. We are definitely going to somewhere , and most Somalis will follow suite.

Even if I go to jahanama there will certainly be some somalis most likely dhabayacos , who will visit me there. Boowe meeshu kulula.

Murax wrote: Tue Sep 03, 2024 11:22 pm -You fought Xabashi in the 1400s
-You fought for Galbees in the 70s


Don’t disgrace your proud ancestors. These Xabashi are openly supporting boasting on social media about greater Ethiopia. Don’t do this Wa Salamualaykum

Dear Murax,

Rest assured, we are not selling our land to Ethiopia; rather, we are leasing it with the aim of achieving a crucial objective. This arrangement will only proceed if Ethiopia not merely provides financial compensation but also actively supports our quest for statehood, offering diplomatic recognition and advocating for our cause at the African Union. Should they fail to do so, there will be no agreement. The Ethiopians may use the Memorandum of Understanding as a strategy to keep the Walanweyns preoccupied, which is advantageous to us if it maintains pressure on them. If this tactic includes concessions, cooperation, or even a military alliance between Somaliland and Ethiopia against Somalia, so be it. Our primary concern is our own national interest.

Yes, we have fought against Ethiopia in the past in the 14th century, in 1964, and in 1977. I do not discount the possibility of such conflicts arising again. If the Walanweyns were to meet us halfway and support our quest for statehood, who knows what the future may hold? We might even confront Ethiopia again. However, as it stands, the Walanweyns oppose our interests and Somaliland's very existence. They seek to ban the use of our name, the Republic of Somaliland indeed, the mere mention of Somaliland seems to irritate them. Given this, I doubt we will ever find common ground anytime soon.

In Somaliland, we are open-minded. If you support our cause, we will support yours in return. If you do not, we may align with your adversaries, such is the nature of politics, no hard feelings. It is important to note that we do not harbour any animosity towards Somali unity or solidarity. We have welcomed all Somalis to Hargeisa, allowing them to live, work, and prosper alongside us. The issue is not with the idea of a greater Somali nation; indeed, we envisioned the best possible scenario for its existence. However, for this vision to be realized, Somaliland must first attain full sovereignty as a recognized member state of the United Nations and the African Union. Only then can we discuss equal union, unity, and cooperation.

Consider the example of the Third Reich's attempt to conquer all of Europe and create a "Greater Germany"—it failed, despite the linguistic and cultural ties among the Germanic peoples of Austria and the Netherlands. Sovereignty had to be reestablished before any form of cooperation could reoccur. Today, German-speaking nations are leaders in Europe, with Belgium hosting the EU Parliament and Berlin as the financial capital, while the Britons and Celts have been excluded from this European Union.

Our vision for Somaliland includes cooperation with Somalia and Djibouti, beginning with trade, followed by a shared currency, joint parliament, security arrangements, intelligence sharing, and eventually even a unified passport. However, for any of this to happen, Somaliland must first be fully independent—100% free from external control. This process may take 50 or even 100 years, but it is a necessary step. we can create our own GCC countries or our own EU style of unity, The Somali peninsula if we had Harar and dirdhawe and maybe some of the lands the oromos have stolen from us . The Somali peninsula is as large As India.

The Koonfurians must recognize that they have already wasted about 20 years of Somaliland's time I exclude 30 years because they lacked a government in 1991. Since 2000 they had a paper goverment. We have engaged in dialogues in Ankara, Istanbul, Dubai, London, and Djibouti for over 12 years, Between Somalia and Somaliland 12 years long taalks,yet they remain unwilling to acknowledge our statehood. What more can we offer if they simply wish to waste our time?

We will achieve our goal—whether the hard way or the less hard way, we will reach our objective. Every nation eventually secures what it seeks, and there is no reversing that. However, if we pursue this path and allow Ethiopia onto our soil, and if Ethiopia recognizes Somaliland before the Walanweyns do, then the notion of brotherhood is dead. You will have chosen to become an eternal adversary because, in doing so, you will have told us to fuck off, and we will secure our recognition, even if it takes a century.

theyuusuf143 wrote: Wed Sep 04, 2024 12:00 am I lost words to describe this level of hypocrisy coming from you. Ladies and gentlemen here we have a mareexan brother whose whole territory inside somalia is 'protected' by Ethiopia since 1991. Long before the Islamic courts or alshabaab. And he is lecturing Isaaqs who have never seen foreign troops in their entire life.

How am I a hypocrite? Ethiopia invaded Gedo 1998 attacked us, and killed many people. We fought, but lost. Since then they always come and go. How was MX supposed to fight a whole nation? Ogadeens, Isaaq, Darood, Dir, etc all live in Ethiopia peacefully so why should have MX fought and died?

original dervish wrote: Wed Sep 04, 2024 12:31 am The iidoor aren't going anywhere.......mark my words.
If they were gonna get recognition it would have happened decades ago.

The reality is that the world isn't about to create a 3rd Somali state alongside Djibouti and Somalia.
It just ain't gonna happen.

What sl will get is a few butter biscuits and pennies thrown at them by the international community, as they say.......your not like the other niggas......you is good niggas.

The world does not create anything; it is the nation or the people who aspire to create their own country and shape their destiny. When the world attempts to create something for you, it often results in a powerless entity, such as the so-called Somali government—the "Bunker." This government invites foreign powers like Egypt, only to face protests from the local population, while regions like Puntland sever ties with it whenever they please. Thus, the West and the international community can only manufacture something artificial, whereas it is the indigenous people themselves who create something truly meaningful and tangible.

For instance, consider Afghanistan: for two decades, America supported the Northern Alliance and later the Hamid Karzai government. However, in 2021, the Taliban swiftly took over, exposing the fragility of the Western-backed government, which was a creation of external forces rather than the Afghan people. Similarly, in Somalia, the Federal Government (SFG) is nothing more than a puppet regime, fabricated outside Somalia in places like Eldoret and Nairobi. Remove the financial support and the African Union forces, and it would quickly fall to Al-Shabaab.

The West and the international community do not actively oppose Somaliland's independence; rather, they believe that the first steps should be taken by Somalia, Somaliland, or the African Union, and that the region should first recognize Somaliland. There is no significant neighbouring country that opposes Somaliland's independence, and the case for Somaliland is strong. The African Union’s fact-finding mission accurately concluded that this is not a case of secession. The union between Somaliland and Somalia was never legally ratified, and Somaliland’s case would be well-served by capable legal representation. Unlike Kurdistan, where Turkey opposes their statehood with force, Somaliland is, in all but name, already a country—lacking only de jure recognition, yet treated by the world as a de facto state. Somaliland case is much stronger than that of Eritrea and South Sudan , South sudan didnt have colonial borders . Eritrea was federated with Ethiopia and had colonial borders like Somaliland , How ever Eritrea was part of Ethiopia prior to the italian colonisation of Eritrea. Where as Somaliland and Somalia never ever shared a country not in 1884 and not before 1884, we never shared a country only the illegal cancerous union between 1960 untill 1991

If, today, Somalia and Somaliland were to agree to formally dissolve their union, do you think the world would object? Certainly not. They would endorse and welcome it, much as Ethiopia recognized Eritrea’s independence and Sudan accepted South Sudan’s sovereignty. Therefore, the notion that the world is against our cause is baseless and unfounded sxb.

Khalid Somaliland is a de jure independent country as well as a de facto country because the illegal 1960 union never happened on a de jure basis therefore Somaliland is de jure as well

Murax wrote: Wed Sep 04, 2024 1:45 am

theyuusuf143 wrote: Wed Sep 04, 2024 12:00 am I lost words to describe this level of hypocrisy coming from you. Ladies and gentlemen here we have a mareexan brother whose whole territory inside somalia is 'protected' by Ethiopia since 1991. Long before the Islamic courts or alshabaab. And he is lecturing Isaaqs who have never seen foreign troops in their entire life.

How am I a hypocrite? Ethiopia invaded Gedo 1998 attacked us, and killed many people. We fought, but lost. Since then they always come and go. How was MX supposed to fight a whole nation? Ogadeens, Isaaq, Darood, Dir, etc all live in Ethiopia peacefully so why should have MX fought and died?

Let me simplify the whole thing for you. Take a look at this map. You can see how long the border between us and Ethiopia is, it's huge compare to your tiny gedo. Yet Ethiopian troops never attacked us and we never needed their assistance to help us our internal issues.

The only reason Ethiopia is in your gedo region is because you requested them, and they have permission from both your community and the so called Somalia government . They are not there because they hate you , or you are threat to them. You are simply too weak to provide a basic policing service for your villages. You are a cuck who is addicted some else to protect his family. Even if Ethiopia leaves some one else will replace to protect your wife.

And you have the audacity to lecture me. This is unbelievable. What a misplaced priority.

Murax no offence but you Somalians do come across as a desperate woman (Somalia) who can't accept that her ex partner (Somaliland) isn't interested in her anymore and is doing his own thing and getting along very well with his buddy that lives next door (Ethiopia)

Khalid Ali

Yes, we have fought against Ethiopia in the past in the 14th century, in 1964, and in 1977

You should not forget 1982 border war between Ethiopia and Somalia and How Ethiopia defeated Al Ittihad al Islami and ONLF. Ogaden is quiet now.The Ethiopians persevered and defeated the Somalis after so many years of war.

luis1 wrote: Mon Sep 23, 2024 6:44 am Khalid Ali

Yes, we have fought against Ethiopia in the past in the 14th century, in 1964, and in 1977

You should not forget 1982 border war between Ethiopia and Somalia and How Ethiopia defeated Al Ittihad al Islami and ONLF. Ogaden is quiet now.The Ethiopians persevered and defeated the Somalis after so many years of war.

why as a cuban would u support a xabashi over a somali makes no sense to me ur from south america what is in for u
atleast u should have been neutral

why as a cuban would u support a xabashi over a somali makes no sense to me ur from south america what is in for u
atleast u should have been neutral

How old are you?. Cuba is in Central-America not South America.

So let’s say ur in central Africa so what bussines does it have with u lot ur a Cuban why care for a war fought between habeshas and Somalis why even pick a side or should we believe what ben dover once discovered the sorry Cuba country never won a single war in their life hence why u so obsessed with the somalo Ethio war it’s ur only relevance in the world I have seen u on this forum for over two decades asking the same question over and over again

We defeated Somalia, Zaire and Spain.