Hawiye should never govern somalia plus they must apologise for what they did and apologise for even wanting to rule

[Khalid Ali]

It’s clear hawiye isn’t capable of governing even a small garden let alone a country

I think they should apologise for even wanting to govern

How many chances did they get
Cali naafto. Threw toxic waste in the sea now u have deformed hawiye babys

Caydiid well though goood in his war against afweyne also failed to convince his clan to follow him
Destroyed rahanweyn. Fought naafto for the capital total destruction

Mr cabdiqasbaye sat 3 years in a hotel

Warlorrds ruled Mogadishu for a decade if not more and during his reign

Then we have sheikh dalxiis this man basically lived in an aircraft
Hassan sheikh first term was all about eeboow beesadi away we saw the scandal with yusur Abrar the bank governor

Culusow made puntland cut all ties with him in his second term
Bombs are still exploding
He now faces a stand off with laftagareen
All he done was make threats form a mosque inside the bunker he signed of sea rights. To turkey then was forced to negotiate with the Ethiopians about a sea he supposed to own

What is this the hawiye clan should sit this one out
And apologise and never ever try to govern at least not the comming century
Hawiye made somalia the shame of africa and the world
Raali gelin body’s

[barbarossa]

Is the annual "Take a Jab at Hawiye Day" upon us already? Happy TJHD to all my faqash/iidoor friends. Enjoy the festivities.

[original dervish]

Hagite politicians are worth shiit......as are all Somalia politicians. However, hagite business community is number 1 across the world.
Furthermore, Hagite culture is probably the most welcoming in Somalia.

[Khalid Ali]

Hagite politicians are worth shiit......as are all Somalia politicians. However, hagite business community is number 1 across the world.
Furthermore, Hagite culture is probably the most welcoming in Somalia.

tell that to kacdoonsol or tanker , she is still looking for her House


speaking of welcoming, they welcomed themselves in her house, how do we solve this

though i agree with you Hagites are good husttlers they know how to run the beeso but siyaasad iyo nithaam isnt their thing

[bashe19]

What about Muse Handrap ruling Wakanda state ?

[original dervish]

Hagite politicians are worth shiit......as are all Somalia politicians. However, hagite business community is number 1 across the world.
Furthermore, Hagite culture is probably the most welcoming in Somalia.

tell that to kacdoonsol or tanker , she is still looking for her House




speaking of welcoming, they welcomed themselves in her house, how do we solve this

though i agree with you Hagites are good husttlers they know how to run the beeso but siyaasad iyo nithaam isnt their thing

Ranker had a beautiful life in pre war Somalia......I can't blame her for reminiscing about those care free days of luxury.

I still believe southerners are the best people in Somalia.
The problem is they have no responsible leadership.

[Khalid Ali]

Well I am not sure about them being good or bad the experience my dad had with them who lived there in the 1960: and 70s said d the walanweyns never tell u the truth if they hate you they might smile to you and he is not the only who had this experience how do u explain that they suddenly just started killing their neighbours just because they shared an ancestry with the late Siyad barre though I do believe we cannot judge them all I do. Believe there are many good oo qalbi xaadhan they don’t hold grudges that might their good quality I mean they selected cabdilahi yusuuf he destroyed them less then 8 years they selected another darood so there is an element of qabyalaad in them but not the pure qabayaalad we know maybe they just like chaos and non of it is related to qabayaalad. So there is some truth to what u are saying how ever they don’t know accountability iyo responsibility u will see in the next selections. U will see again a dozen Hutus running for president

[original dervish]

Somali politicians are the worse of the worse.
I wouldn't judge a people by their politicians.
It's the same in the west.....usually the most corrupt, criminal and deviant people enter politics.

Xamar is probably the onlynplace in Somalia where your tribal background doesn't really matter. Obviously their are areas of life where your tribe counts. However, by and large you can be any tribe and succeed.

[barbarossa]

^ It is true, a non-hawiye merchant faarax can, for the most part, thrive in Mogadhishu, with little or no molestation, provided, of course, he stays clear of the local big shot "business" cartels.

[Khalid Ali]

But how is that different then any other region in the Somali peninsula I mean isaaq have millions of assets in jabuuti a city they are not majority so how is xamar different then jabuuti

I think in any part of the Somali peninsula Somalia build bussineses. Somalis Guur iyo kiish lacag ah isku ma diidana any where it’s just politics we can never agree

Isaaq stands on building an independence
Darood want federalism confederalism
Hawiye want anarchism lugu qarieye centralism

[theyuusuf143]

Isaaq stands on building an independence
Darood want federalism confederalism
Hawiye want anarchism lugu qarieye centralism

Its a Zero sum game. No compromise. Certainly Isaaqs have 100% decided to risk it all. If we push a regional war Somalia puppet administration Will disappear just like the Afghanistan one.

I support the hawiye admin to expell the Ethiopian troops. This will enable alshabaab to replace them. Ethiopia Will loose it's military laverage in Somalia, the Egyptians will fuel the flames . And we will be in better position to play our cards well

It's in our best interest Ethiopia troops to be expelled in Somalia. It's like killing 1 stone with two birds. What's better than keeping culusaw under threat, and keeping the Kid abiy more desperate .

[Khalid Ali]

I agree hundred percent is in our interests that Ethiopia loses all its leverage over the walanweyns. Not because we love the walanweyns or we care for their well being. But because the only reason for Ethiopia to be hesistent to side fully with sl was due to their fear of losing their influence in the bunker but we should thank the walanweyns. They brought Egypt put more oil on the fire now Ethiopia is even more pisses but their hands are tight what can they do I mean Egypt Ik their corner . They are desperate now we can even get more concessions now from the Ethiopians lease us basically for free allot of fertile land in Ethiopia give us full ownership of the hawd and reserve area and full rulership remember now they need us since Egypt is in their back yard so it is good for us to deal with Ethiopia now

[theyuusuf143]

To achieve all our goals it's very important to play a crucial role of the destabilisation process. We can regain hawd administration by destabilising the fake Somali kilil. All it takes is a few days of unrest between the dooros , iidoors and other noisy folks out there.

To secure fertile lands in Ethiopia , We should aim the Isaaqization of peaple living deep in Oromia and amhara regions, we already have some communities there , we must keep in touch with them always give them weapons to protect their land , invest and buy their products .

I don't think we need this half breed abiy to secure any land in Ethiopia , as long as the place is not stable we can grab our land by force, any time we want.

We must have similar policy in Somalia and protect the biimaal territory , even if we have to collaborate the iidoor extremists in that area . Fertile lands are getting more important and worth to fight for.

[original dervish]

I agree hundred percent is in our interests that Ethiopia loses all its leverage over the walanweyns. Not because we love the walanweyns or we care for their well being. But because the only reason for Ethiopia to be hesistent to side fully with sl was due to their fear of losing their influence in the bunker but we should thank the walanweyns. They brought Egypt put more oil on the fire now Ethiopia is even more pisses but their hands are tight what can they do I mean Egypt Ik their corner . They are desperate now we can even get more concessions now from the Ethiopians lease us basically for free allot of fertile land in Ethiopia give us full ownership of the hawd and reserve area and full rulership remember now they need us since Egypt is in their back yard so it is good for us to deal with Ethiopia now

This is very interesting proposition.
So let me get this right. In exchange for giving Ethiopia the sea you want to rule DDSI?
I've never heard this opinion expressed before....very interesting.

[BigBreak]

^ not the whole DDSI, only the Isaaq part of Hawd area. Ethiopia won't even cede an inch of its territory though so it's just a moot point really