YOUr stance on MUSIC in ISlam? is it Permissible?

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YOUr stance on MUSIC in ISlam? is it Permissible?

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I would like to know how many think that the music prohibition is fiction in Islam, that there aren't enough hadiths to confirm otherwise? I'm staggered by the amount of people who preach that, "listening to music will send you to the paths of hell,"....more so, to the fact that their unyielding by their conviction. Oh yes, and most would even think that music affects a persons emotional stability...lol I do however agree, that MOST mainstream music is completely hollow, and just pure rubbish, that only generate a society of imbeciles, and misguided little girls chanting, "MY hump , MY HUMP my lovely little lumps?"..............I have to say, i'm always slightly amused. But I understand why that's not permissible




In my personal opinion, I think that as Muslims we have the responsibility to make sure and oppose the negativity that surrounds us, Rather then say that all music is forbidden doesn't seem to make sense to me. Music which is responsible for uplifting the morale, the spirit of a society and which consists of some sort of decency has to be permissible.........

So, I don't often ask for opinons, but make it interesting!..
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I think it depends on the content of the music; songs that contain lyrics about raping a b.itch are obviously haram but I don't think that songs about sitting on your front porch and staring at your pick-up truck (country music) are haram. So I guess it all comes down to content Smile
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Something I can say for sure, music can screw with your emotions. One minute you are thinking about praying the next you are wishing you could don amini and hit the clubs. Walaahi that's true, I don't care how many idiots will tell you that music is harmless, because it's not.

But haram? Hell? Im no scholar so you won't get a yes/no answer.
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بسم الله الرحمن الرحيم

الحمد لله والصلاة والصلاة والسلام على رسول الله
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الســــــــــ عليكم ورحمه الله وبركاته ــــــــــــــــــلام


First of All we Muslims can not say something is haram or halal unless we have proper knowledge from Quran and Sunnah.. Our opinion has to concur with the quran and Sunnah ..
Allah has told us Ask people of knowledge if you don’t not know..

Let us look what they have said ;

Qal Allah in the Quran All kareem (the meaning)
31:6. And of mankind is he who purchases idle talk (Lahw Al-Hadith) to mislead from the path of Allah without knowledge, and takes it by way of mockery. For such there will be a humiliating torment.

In the abridged tafsir Ibn Kathir ( Tafseer Al Quraan) , the words idle talk have been defined as


(And of mankind is he who purchases Lahu Al-Hadith to mislead (men) from the path of Allah), he said, "This -- by Allah -- refers to singing.''

(And of mankind is he who purchases Lahw Al-Hadith to mislead (men) from the path of Allah without knowledge, ) Qatadah said: "By Allah, he may not spend money on it, but his purchasing it means he likes it, and the more misguided he is, the more he likes it and the more he prefers falsehood to the truth and harmful things over beneficial things.'' It was said that what is meant by the words

(purchases idle talks) is buying singing servant girls. Ibn Jarir said that it means all speech that hinders people from seeing the signs of Allah and following His path. His saying:

to mislead (men) from the path of Allah) means, he does this to oppose Islam and its followers.

(and takes it by way of mockery.) Mujahid said, "This means mocking the path of Allah and making fun of it.''

Ask you self this what do I benefit from music.

Dose it reminds me of Allah.
Dose it reminds me to Pray and do good deeds.
Will it benefit me on the day of judgement?
What if I die while I am listening to Music and I meat Allah on the day of judgement in that state I am willing to take that chanse?
Does it reminds me of the death, this is a good thing as it makes us conscious of repenting (making towbah) to Allah by working hard to do good deeds ect etc

Or does the music make our heart dead..
Money wasted on haraam
Away from the remembrance of Allah, in the Quran Allah tells us indeed in the rememberance of Allah the hearts feels peace & mercy
By listening to music we are in this world only you will not see anyone thing about the Jannah the akhirah while listeing to music, everyone is think about bling blings, sex, experience ride, spectacular cribs============> donya donya donya

It simply distract us from the remembrance of Allah ..

Many Muslims may object to this fact today , its is only because they lack the meaning and deep understanding of TAWHEED, how can we talking about music is haram whith a Muslim who doesn’t pray in the first PLACE ??? Who doesn’t Fast, who loves the kaafir life style? who dosent wear jilbab. Who drinks Alcohol and make zina and I seek refuge with Allah from All evil..


WALLAHI if more understood the meaning of LAA ILHA IL ALLAH by heart without anyone telling them music is haraam they would leave it They would understand that it is distracting them from the remembrance of Allah and THAT alone with be significant enough for them..

just had to say this as I rememberd that if I dont say the xaq Allah will ask me why I did not say anything on the day of Al akhirah I felt affraid of Allah's punishment..

Fe Aman Allah
Al faghera el Allah
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Hey, welcome back SomaliSizz. Very Happy up Your contribution was greatly missed.


I think music that encourages bad behaviour like today’s pop, RnB, Hiphop etc are definitely xaraam. However Islamic music and songs of praise are not xaraam because they remind you about your faith and can help kids learn more about the religion or enhance their emotional connection to Islam.

So, like Ashlee said, I believe it’s all a matter of content.
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I am not a fan of music; I don't seek it, don't own a single musical cd, and only listen to it passively when others lit it. This isn't primarily due to religious reasons, it's just music doesn't appeal to me. However, I listen to tajwid/tartil, and have a collection of the Qur'an. As someone has explained, music can affect your mind/mood or imagination. Music can make you idly lose your time. I think music can be a form of drug; if you can't live without it, or if you can't go a day without listening to it, you could be an addict.
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For the perosn that said music can benefit children, i have these to say.

brother/sister.

All kinds of music are forbidden. Indeed there is nothing good in music. So, if the child grows up with it, he will like it too much and will be addicted to it. Allah, the great and Almighty, has made legal a variety of useful means for acquiring knowledge. So, one should stick to these means and leave out anything that is forbidden by Allah.
Allah knows best.

jazakallah somaisiz. excellently put.
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Re: YOUr stance on MUSIC in ISlam? is it Permissible?

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[quote="MaJestic"]

In my personal opinion, I think that as Muslims we have the responsibility to make sure and oppose the negativity that surrounds us, Rather then say that all music is forbidden doesn't seem to make sense to me. Music which is responsible for uplifting the morale, the spirit of a society and which consists of some sort of decency has to be permissible.........

So, I don't often ask for opinons, but make it interesting!..[/quote]
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i agree with you 100%; as long as music is sused responsibly and for the right reasons. when you consider the state of the muslim umma today (especialy the muslim youth ) i think one of the most important thing one should concider is the best way to put the message (Islam) across while still remaining within the framework of islam. we are not living in 7th century arabia, so using everything in our disposal whether its thechnology, movies or music, all can be used to spread the teaching of Islam and can be a great benefit to muslims.
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Listening to music is 'Haaram' if u listen to Wahabis and their cohorts. Enjoy your music mate and tell those blasted Wahabis to kiss your a*** Razz
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Singing is no more than tuneful words; if these are good, singing is considered good; but if they are bad, such singing is deemed bad. Talk that contains forbidden content is prohibited. Allah does not like anyone who utters a bad word in the public except if that person is being oppressed. As we can see in here, we are not even allowed to speak openly with evil words let alone singing or buying or selling bad words with instrument.

Muslim scholars agree on the permissibility of singing without instrumental supplement and where the content is not prohibited. For instance, when abubakar Alsadiq, came to the Aisha’s house, he scolded his daughter and said,“Then Musical instruments of Satan near the Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him)?’ Thereupon, Allah’s Messenger (peace and blessings be upon him) turned his face towards him and said, ‘Leave them.’ When Abu Bakr became inattentive, I signaled to those girls to go out and they left.” (Reported by Al-Bukhari)

About the musical instruments, scholars disagree on the matter. Some of them permit all sorts of singing, be it accompanied with musical instruments or not, and even consider it recommended. A second group of scholars permit singing only when is not accompanied with a musical instrument. A third group declares it to be prohibited whether it is accompanied with a musical instrument or not; they even consider it as a major sin. However, all hadiths that talk about the prohibition (Haraam) of singing with musical instruments are Daciif “weak” and are not authentic.

Scholars who permitted singing with instrument have set a conditions and terms listening to it.

1-It must not make you busy or make you to abandon worshiping your god and practicing your religion as Islam in a proper way.

2. Singing should not be accompanied with something that is prohibited such as alcohol, nakedness, mixing of men with women that are common in pubs and nightclubs, etc.

3. Also, the way the song is performed weighs so much. The theme of the song may be good, but the performance of the singer – through intending excitement and arousing others’ lusts and desires along with trying to seduce them – may move it to the area of prohibition, suspicion or even detest.


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Post by MaJestic »

Mocha------I do think that some music incite a memory, be it good or bad, which then is responsible for having an emotional affect, but to conclude that the disturbance is so intoxicating that you forget about the daily necessities of life, such as Prayer........it then becomes an issue that stems from your own personal instability.


Abraham---Music can not be a distraction unless you allow it to. Its simple as that!



Almost everyone agrees that music is a powerful influential source. whether its responsible for debasing a persons character, or uplifting it....there's a definite supremacy behind it. Every aspect of life has some sort of melodic tune to it, which is beautiful. I'm for the muslim artist such as Sami Yusuf, Dawud Ali, Zain Bhika, Yusuf Islam and lets not forget our own K'naan(that's a whole different topic, but nonethess he needs to be mentioned). THese people realize the importance of reaching out to youths that are being influenced by the ideology of western societies. Reaching out to them in a dialogue that's comprehensible.........that is effective, is artistry at its best and it needs to be utilized.
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[quote="Lord Diplock"]Listening to music is 'Haaram' if u listen to Wahabis and their cohorts. Enjoy your music mate and tell those blasted Wahabis to kiss your a*** Razz[/quote]

waraa abdikareem benaale Laughing , i invite you to lecture to us about these so called wahabis in my thread below hadaa nin tahay! Razz

http://somalinet.com/forum/viewtopic.ph ... 51256bf6c2


Btw, isoowac coming weekend man, (friday evening) howshii waa diyaar.. i know your somali is focked, ask someone to translate for you sujuui boy Laughing
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Post by The Arabman »

Music is indeed a waste of time, energy & money. It causes physical (hearing loss, etc) and emotional (addiction, etc) damages. I don't see what's good about it.
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