Are you a wahabi??
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Are you a wahabi??
What do you think of the wahabis? do you know them? there is alot of talk about this so called wahabis. upto now i haven't come a cross any one calling themselves wahabis. only the media and some individuals call/use this term to reffer to a certain group/section/people of the muslims.
I am not a wahabi (even though the law26 preffers me to call me one)neither do i know of anyones that calls themselves wahabi. but what i do know is, there was a pious shikh named muhamad abdulwahab who was born in the Arabia during a period when theMuslims of Arab and non-Arabs were in the darkness of ignorance, and they had deviated from the way of the Quran and Hadith. Polytheism was spread among Muslims, who were practising worship of some pious people through Du'a, singing around their graves,calling them for assistance, making sacrifice for them etc. The above named shikh came to being (alhamdulillah) He struggled very hard preaching the true teachings of the Prophet Muhammad (Blessings and peace of Allah be upon him). god bless his soul. this was work of the prophet scw and what every true believer should undertake. if i partake what he did (very difficult for me since my iman is evry weak) i am following the sunnah of the prophet and not his (abdiwahabs) sunnah.
what do you think?. do you believ there is a group called wahabis? do you know them?? what is their beleives? are you one of them? or do you, like me belive wahabi is utter bollocks and a new strategy by the west and the enemies of islam to devide and manipulate the muslims???
your two cents please..
I am not a wahabi (even though the law26 preffers me to call me one)neither do i know of anyones that calls themselves wahabi. but what i do know is, there was a pious shikh named muhamad abdulwahab who was born in the Arabia during a period when theMuslims of Arab and non-Arabs were in the darkness of ignorance, and they had deviated from the way of the Quran and Hadith. Polytheism was spread among Muslims, who were practising worship of some pious people through Du'a, singing around their graves,calling them for assistance, making sacrifice for them etc. The above named shikh came to being (alhamdulillah) He struggled very hard preaching the true teachings of the Prophet Muhammad (Blessings and peace of Allah be upon him). god bless his soul. this was work of the prophet scw and what every true believer should undertake. if i partake what he did (very difficult for me since my iman is evry weak) i am following the sunnah of the prophet and not his (abdiwahabs) sunnah.
what do you think?. do you believ there is a group called wahabis? do you know them?? what is their beleives? are you one of them? or do you, like me belive wahabi is utter bollocks and a new strategy by the west and the enemies of islam to devide and manipulate the muslims???
your two cents please..
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so we dont have wahabis in somalinet general forum as aledged. where is the law26 character and his rumblings? show us where you found this wahabis yaa bacbacle!
rebel thanks for your contribution.
rebel thanks for your contribution.
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There are 2 groups of people who believe in Wahabism:
1) Those who seek to divide Muslims into groups of "Radicals" and "moderats" to achieve their goals, whatever they maybe..
2) Those who are stupid enough to believe the first group...
sounds like the people you are addressing belong to the latter group and don't deserve any attention..just bunch of morons..the biggest one of them is THELAW26..
1) Those who seek to divide Muslims into groups of "Radicals" and "moderats" to achieve their goals, whatever they maybe..
2) Those who are stupid enough to believe the first group...
sounds like the people you are addressing belong to the latter group and don't deserve any attention..just bunch of morons..the biggest one of them is THELAW26..
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What was Abdiwahaab’s manhaj? Not Sunni and neither Shia, the man just invented his own with no Isnad and millions of mindless Muslims like you flocked to him. The discovery of oil in Saudi Arabia in the 1930’s has enabled the Saudi-Wahhabi kingdom to become rich, and their leaders have used their wealth to disseminate the Wahhabi doctrine all across the globe. They have built printing presses in Egypt, Syria, Europe, Africa, Australia and the United States to print beautiful books to attract the laypeople so that they may fall into their trap. The problem is that many new and ignorant naïve Somali Muslims are falling into the Wahhabi trap, and are propagating their false doctrine in Muslim Student Organizations, universities, communities, internet sites and mosques
Mohammad Ibn ‘Abdi-l-Wahhab’s brother, Sulayman Ibn ‘Abdi-l-Wahhab, studied his works and tried his best to invite him to tawbah. At least, when he realized verbal admonitions had no effect, decided to write a book called "As-Sawa’iqu-l-Ilahiyyah fi-r-Raddi ‘ala-l-Wahhabiyyah". It contains a detailed refutation of his brother’s heresies, why don’t you read it? It states:
"One of the dalils showing that your path is heretic is the hadith sharif narrated by ‘Uqbah Ibn Amir and collected in the Sahihayn [Bukhari and Muslim]: ‘Rasul-Ullah (sall-Allahu 'alayhi wa sallam) ascended the minbar, and it was the last time I saw him on the minbar. He said: ‘I do not fear that you will become mushrikuns after me, but I fear that, because of worldly interests, you will fight each others, and thus be destroyed like the peoples of old.’ The Messenger of Allah (sall-Allahu 'alayhi wa sallam) foretold all that would happen to his Ummah until the end of the world. This hadith sharif shows that he was certain of the fact that this Ummah will never worship idols. By saying so, he destroys Wahhabism from its roots, since Wahhabi books say that Ummah al-Muhammadiyyah is involved in polytheism, that Muslim countries are full of idols, and that Muslim graves are houses of shirk. They also claim that someone who does not accept to consider mushrikuns those who ask for intercession by the graves is himself a kafir. On the contrary, Muslims have been visiting graves and asking for the intercession of awliyas for centuries. No Islamic scholar has even called such Muslims mushrikuns.
"My brother asks: ‘A hadith sharif says: "Of all that will befall you, shirk is what I fear more." Is not this a dalil of the fact that a part of this Ummah will be engaged in shirk?'
"I say: It is inferred by many other hadiths that this hadith refers to shirku-l-asghar. There are similar hadiths, narrated by Shaddad Ibn ‘Aws, Abu Hurayrah and Mahmud Ibn Labid (may Allah be pleased with all of them), according to which the Prophet (sall-Allahu 'alayhi wa sallam) feared that shirku-l-asghar would be committed by his Ummah. It has exactly happened as it was foretold in the hadith, and many Muslims are guilty of shirku-l-asghar. But you, in your ignorance, confuse shirku-l-asghar with shirku-l-akbar, and the tragic consequence of this mistake of yours is that you regard as ‘unbelievers’ those Muslims that do not accept to call other Muslims ‘unbelievers’.
Why did his brother and father both pious Muslims disown him and labelled his teaching Wahabiya? I’m reading Sulleyman Abdiwahab’s book “"As-Sawa’iqu-l-Ilahiyyah fi-r-Raddi ‘ala-l-Wahhabiyyah" and I will get back to you when I finish.
What was Abdiwahaab’s manhaj? Not Sunni and neither Shia, the man just invented his own with no Isnad and millions of mindless Muslims like you flocked to him. The discovery of oil in Saudi Arabia in the 1930’s has enabled the Saudi-Wahhabi kingdom to become rich, and their leaders have used their wealth to disseminate the Wahhabi doctrine all across the globe. They have built printing presses in Egypt, Syria, Europe, Africa, Australia and the United States to print beautiful books to attract the laypeople so that they may fall into their trap. The problem is that many new and ignorant naïve Somali Muslims are falling into the Wahhabi trap, and are propagating their false doctrine in Muslim Student Organizations, universities, communities, internet sites and mosques
Mohammad Ibn ‘Abdi-l-Wahhab’s brother, Sulayman Ibn ‘Abdi-l-Wahhab, studied his works and tried his best to invite him to tawbah. At least, when he realized verbal admonitions had no effect, decided to write a book called "As-Sawa’iqu-l-Ilahiyyah fi-r-Raddi ‘ala-l-Wahhabiyyah". It contains a detailed refutation of his brother’s heresies, why don’t you read it? It states:
"One of the dalils showing that your path is heretic is the hadith sharif narrated by ‘Uqbah Ibn Amir and collected in the Sahihayn [Bukhari and Muslim]: ‘Rasul-Ullah (sall-Allahu 'alayhi wa sallam) ascended the minbar, and it was the last time I saw him on the minbar. He said: ‘I do not fear that you will become mushrikuns after me, but I fear that, because of worldly interests, you will fight each others, and thus be destroyed like the peoples of old.’ The Messenger of Allah (sall-Allahu 'alayhi wa sallam) foretold all that would happen to his Ummah until the end of the world. This hadith sharif shows that he was certain of the fact that this Ummah will never worship idols. By saying so, he destroys Wahhabism from its roots, since Wahhabi books say that Ummah al-Muhammadiyyah is involved in polytheism, that Muslim countries are full of idols, and that Muslim graves are houses of shirk. They also claim that someone who does not accept to consider mushrikuns those who ask for intercession by the graves is himself a kafir. On the contrary, Muslims have been visiting graves and asking for the intercession of awliyas for centuries. No Islamic scholar has even called such Muslims mushrikuns.
"My brother asks: ‘A hadith sharif says: "Of all that will befall you, shirk is what I fear more." Is not this a dalil of the fact that a part of this Ummah will be engaged in shirk?'
"I say: It is inferred by many other hadiths that this hadith refers to shirku-l-asghar. There are similar hadiths, narrated by Shaddad Ibn ‘Aws, Abu Hurayrah and Mahmud Ibn Labid (may Allah be pleased with all of them), according to which the Prophet (sall-Allahu 'alayhi wa sallam) feared that shirku-l-asghar would be committed by his Ummah. It has exactly happened as it was foretold in the hadith, and many Muslims are guilty of shirku-l-asghar. But you, in your ignorance, confuse shirku-l-asghar with shirku-l-akbar, and the tragic consequence of this mistake of yours is that you regard as ‘unbelievers’ those Muslims that do not accept to call other Muslims ‘unbelievers’.
Why did his brother and father both pious Muslims disown him and labelled his teaching Wahabiya? I’m reading Sulleyman Abdiwahab’s book “"As-Sawa’iqu-l-Ilahiyyah fi-r-Raddi ‘ala-l-Wahhabiyyah" and I will get back to you when I finish.
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You are trying to find loophole for smaller shirk now
subxanallah! how low can one sink!
anyway the theme of this topic was to find wether we have wahabis followers/ or sect named wahibis among us as you claimed and to show the rest you are nothing but a hypocrite hiding behidn some wahabi nonsense to hinder the efforts of the brothers and sisters trying to call people to the way of the deen.
I dont care what you say about the sheikh. it is between you and Allah. i promise to get back to you about the vising of the graves and the and smaller shirks.

anyway the theme of this topic was to find wether we have wahabis followers/ or sect named wahibis among us as you claimed and to show the rest you are nothing but a hypocrite hiding behidn some wahabi nonsense to hinder the efforts of the brothers and sisters trying to call people to the way of the deen.
I dont care what you say about the sheikh. it is between you and Allah. i promise to get back to you about the vising of the graves and the and smaller shirks.
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muslim-man, that's not what The Law26 wrote. It was copy/pasted from this link:
http://amislam.com/warning.htm
It was written by Abdul Hadi Palazzi, a leader of the Italian Muslim Assembly and a co-founder and a co-chairman of the Islam-Israel Fellowship. Read his other articles (lower page of above link) to learn about his controversial ideology.
This is two links (more available upon request) praising Abdul Hadi:
http://www.danielpipes.org/comments/19294
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/artic ... E_ID=22446
http://amislam.com/warning.htm
It was written by Abdul Hadi Palazzi, a leader of the Italian Muslim Assembly and a co-founder and a co-chairman of the Islam-Israel Fellowship. Read his other articles (lower page of above link) to learn about his controversial ideology.
This is two links (more available upon request) praising Abdul Hadi:
http://www.danielpipes.org/comments/19294
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/artic ... E_ID=22446
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