Is Ahmed Gurey somali ?

[galia]

I was once telling this ethiopian guy about our somali history and how ahmed Gurey almost completly destroyed ethiopia back around 200 yrs ago, and the guy shockling told me that Ahmed gurey is not somalian, that Ahmed Gurey is turkish, i felt upset that this guy is trying 2 undermine my history.

Anyways what u somalis think about this issue, i personnaly think that Ahmed gurey is 4rm one of the major Hawiya clans possibly Haber gider as they obviously have he's warroir traits.

Anyways what u people think

[LilTrigger]

I heard he was japanese

[galia]

And i heard ur mun is bantu, take the piss out oF Ahmed gurey and i'll take the piss out of u, u follow

[San_dheer]

@ LilTrigger, you’re such a joker.


Galia, I’ve heard he was Somali but am not sure. Maybe the ethiopian guy was just saying that. Anywayz, I think Somalia was part of the Ottaman empire at that time... so he could have been Turkish. Whatever he was he was a Somali hero.

[Grant]

http://www.civicwebs.com/cwvlib/africa/ ... apter_8.ht

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ahmad_Gragn

Also see the thread "The Greatests Somali that Ever Lived".

[yasmin507]

[quote="galia"]I was once telling this ethiopian guy about our somali history and how ahmed Gurey almost completly destroyed ethiopia back around 200 yrs ago, and the guy shockling told me that Ahmed gurey is not somalian, that Ahmed Gurey is turkish, i felt upset that this guy is trying 2 undermine my history.

Anyways what u somalis think about this issue, i personnaly think that Ahmed gurey is 4rm one of the major Hawiya clans possibly Haber gider as they obviously have he's warroir traits.

Anyways what u people think[/quote]
hawiya hell naw. he waz darood marehan.

[galia]

Am telling u this yeah, if Ahmed Gurey was infact somali he must of been from within hawiya, cos at that time xamar was only run and populated by Hawaiyas espicallythe Haber Giders whilst the other somali peps including the meherans were simple nomadic people that lived in the country side at thet point of time.
Also it is well documented that the Ahmed gurey resided in xamar, where he ruled and he had he's family there, so the desendents of Ahmed Gurey must have only been hawiya.

Also it is a well known fact that the hawiya clan is by large the most numerical superior somali clan in somalia, even the Abgaal are greater in number then the meherans and the Mjs put together not mentioning the rest of the 66.66 of the hawiya clan.

It is also well known that the bulk of islamic forces at that time where based in xamar, these forces were later stationed or sent to various parts of the country to counter-threat the incursions made by ethiopian forces.

[San_dheer]

Galia, you have quite a plausible argument there.

[The_Don_of_djibouti]

Get your fact straight people!!!!!

We are not talking here about hamar, galguduud, bosaso or kismanyo!

We are talking here about Zayla ancient capital of adel (which is awdal).
When your cheer stupidity claim that the populace of Djibouti area is hawiyee or darod.
Then we will hear tomorrow that awdal is populated by murorasade or marehan.
We have all heard now!!!!

Awdal is populate solely by gadaboursi(majority) and Issa (minority)
There is not a third tribe what so ever in awdal.

Ahmed gurey histories and legacy is only visible in awdal today.


By your line of thought within 100 years your great grand children will tell tall that Siyad barre was an Issac especially an habar awal.
Stupid, mindless and ignorant people!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[kambuli]

Galia,

Was that all you wanted to say? That Axmed Gurey was Hawiye? Aren't Hawiye Somali? I believe a hero should not have any tribal affiliation.

Ahmed Gurey was a brave Somali hero. He fought with the enemy not with his kinsmen

[The_Don_of_djibouti]

someone from hamar told me that ismail omar guelle , president of djibouti is an hawiyeeh especially an cayr

[galia]

We all know well that what triggered Ahmed Gurey to Destroy ethiopia was the fact that they invaded harar a vibrant city located in ogaden only a few miles away from the ancestrial homelands of the Haber Gider peps, so when he conducted Jihad against the oppressors, the majority of the forces soley comprised of hawiya peoples and lets not 4get the fact that at that point of somali history the stronghold of the islamic forces was in xamar.

[The_Don_of_djibouti]

donqonimoh iyoo moryanimoo eeya iskuu kaah birtay matiree???

Xamar maa afar baa dagtaah?????

If you want to learn about ahmed gurey history feel free to ask.

A whole portion of ahmed gurey army was afar (not somali)

[galia]

Omg now hes trying 2 say that the majortity of Ahmed Gureys forces were not somali ? Thats outlandish, the war we had with the ethiopians was about us and our lands, it was about the city of harar in morden day ogaden, when dem ethiopians took our lands and our livestock, Ahmed Gurey united us 2 take back whats ours, unfortunetly nowadays dem ethiopians have the entire somali terrority of ogaden, which is roughly the same size as france.

[The_Don_of_djibouti]

no I was wrong !!!!!

The majority of ahmed gurey army was from osman ato and yalloxoo army