What is a Sufi and What is Sufism?
Sufi: a follower of Sufism
Sufism: a sect that has introduced many innovated practices and beliefs into the religion of Islam while claiming to be mystical
Sufism was not known in the time of the Prophet (may Allah raise his rank and grant him peace) or his Companions, nor was it well known in the first three generations after them. It first appeared in Basrah in Iraq, where some people went to extremes in worship and in avoiding the worldly life, something which is admonished in the Quran:
"The Monasticism which they invented for themselves; We did not prescribe it for them."
Sufis belong to the Illumist school of philosophy which holds that knowledge and awareness is brought about in the soul by spiritual exercises. Orthodox Islam holds that one can achieve true knowledge and awareness through the acts of worship that exist in the Quran and Sunnah.
Sufis believe that their teachers are also a source for legislation in worship, as they will order them to carry out acts of worship that have no basis in either the Quran or the Sunnah. The extremists from amongst them often claim that Allah dwells within His creation (i.e. in people's hearts, internal organs etc.). Consequently, they ascribe to their Sufi teachers attributes and powers which only belong to Allah, such as the knowledge of the unseen.
They often claim that the texts of the Quran and the Sunnah have an outer, apparent meaning, and as well, an inner, hidden meaning. They hold that the outer, apparent meaning is known to those who practice orthodox Islam, while the inner and hidden meanings of the Quran and Sunnah are known only to their teacher and order. These teachers will often claim that since they have advanced to the inner and hidden meaning of Islam, they no longer need to pray or fast, something that not even the Prophets were excused from.
- from a footnote in the book: The 'Wahhabi' Myth
http://www.thewahhabimyth.com/sufism.htm
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THE SUFI MYTH
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[quote="marduuf"]fok suufi, salafi, shia, sunni, dey r all kaafirs. da saudis r da worst of dem, dey fok little boys in mecca,[/quote]
be careful of what comes outa ya mouth. those are strong words dear.
kamal, you are christian so just stick with your bible. leave us muslims
alone. you know nuffin about Wahabism, so hush up Mr. Spaniard.
be careful of what comes outa ya mouth. those are strong words dear.
kamal, you are christian so just stick with your bible. leave us muslims
alone. you know nuffin about Wahabism, so hush up Mr. Spaniard.
[quote="HiTech_ChiC"][quote="marduuf"]fok suufi, salafi, shia, sunni, dey r all kaafirs. da saudis r da worst of dem, dey fok little boys in mecca,[/quote]
be careful of what comes outa ya mouth. those are strong words dear.
kamal, you are christian so just stick with your bible. leave us muslims
alone. you know nuffin about Wahabism, so hush up Mr. Spaniard.[/quote]
HiTech: I'm not christian. F.u.c.k. Christ and f.u.c.k. Christianity and f.u.c.k. the theologians, which are the worst kind of human beings on Earth. Actually, I'm antichristian, I'm Nietzschean and hyperborean. But what I see is than in wahabism, salafism and all that fake and false doctrines the behaviour of the so-called 'good-muslims' is just the same that the popes, bishops and priests practise in Christianity: I mean, condemning and sending to the fire any kind of criticism to the 'mainstream'. Everywhere I look I see fanatic theologians in all sides. For me, they're nothing but s.h.i.t. They're fukking liars lying to the people and creating superstitions everywhere.
Superstition is a good way to control the people. You don't need to go very far away to see that the so called -good muslims' are talking about superstitions all the time. Not real Islam.
At least, sufists are smart and intelligent. Wahabists and salafists are fanatics and barbarians.
Some day you'll open your eyes and you will see that. Wait and see.
be careful of what comes outa ya mouth. those are strong words dear.
kamal, you are christian so just stick with your bible. leave us muslims
alone. you know nuffin about Wahabism, so hush up Mr. Spaniard.[/quote]
HiTech: I'm not christian. F.u.c.k. Christ and f.u.c.k. Christianity and f.u.c.k. the theologians, which are the worst kind of human beings on Earth. Actually, I'm antichristian, I'm Nietzschean and hyperborean. But what I see is than in wahabism, salafism and all that fake and false doctrines the behaviour of the so-called 'good-muslims' is just the same that the popes, bishops and priests practise in Christianity: I mean, condemning and sending to the fire any kind of criticism to the 'mainstream'. Everywhere I look I see fanatic theologians in all sides. For me, they're nothing but s.h.i.t. They're fukking liars lying to the people and creating superstitions everywhere.
Superstition is a good way to control the people. You don't need to go very far away to see that the so called -good muslims' are talking about superstitions all the time. Not real Islam.
At least, sufists are smart and intelligent. Wahabists and salafists are fanatics and barbarians.
Some day you'll open your eyes and you will see that. Wait and see.
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Re: THE SUFI MYTH
After reading some of your posts tonight regards to Sa'udi and so on, I think to bring back this topic would make allot of sence. Enjoy !
ur bro salafi
ur bro salafi
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Re: THE SUFI MYTH
[quote="salafi_student"]What is a Sufi and What is Sufism?
Sufi: a follower of Sufism
Sufism: a sect that has introduced many innovated practices and beliefs into the religion of Islam while claiming to be mystical
Sufism was not known in the time of the Prophet (may Allah raise his rank and grant him peace) or his Companions, nor was it well known in the first three generations after them. It first appeared in Basrah in Iraq, where some people went to extremes in worship and in avoiding the worldly life, something which is admonished in the Quran:
"The Monasticism which they invented for themselves; We did not prescribe it for them."
Sufis belong to the Illumist school of philosophy which holds that knowledge and awareness is brought about in the soul by spiritual exercises. Orthodox Islam holds that one can achieve true knowledge and awareness through the acts of worship that exist in the Quran and Sunnah.
Sufis believe that their teachers are also a source for legislation in worship, as they will order them to carry out acts of worship that have no basis in either the Quran or the Sunnah. The extremists from amongst them often claim that Allah dwells within His creation (i.e. in people's hearts, internal organs etc.). Consequently, they ascribe to their Sufi teachers attributes and powers which only belong to Allah, such as the knowledge of the unseen.
They often claim that the texts of the Quran and the Sunnah have an outer, apparent meaning, and as well, an inner, hidden meaning. They hold that the outer, apparent meaning is known to those who practice orthodox Islam, while the inner and hidden meanings of the Quran and Sunnah are known only to their teacher and order. These teachers will often claim that since they have advanced to the inner and hidden meaning of Islam, they no longer need to pray or fast, something that not even the Prophets were excused from.
- from a footnote in the book: The 'Wahhabi' Myth
http://www.thewahhabimyth.com/sufism.htm
Your brother salafi_student[/quote]
GET YOUR WINGS AND FLY LIKE A SUFI
Sufi: a follower of Sufism
Sufism: a sect that has introduced many innovated practices and beliefs into the religion of Islam while claiming to be mystical
Sufism was not known in the time of the Prophet (may Allah raise his rank and grant him peace) or his Companions, nor was it well known in the first three generations after them. It first appeared in Basrah in Iraq, where some people went to extremes in worship and in avoiding the worldly life, something which is admonished in the Quran:
"The Monasticism which they invented for themselves; We did not prescribe it for them."
Sufis belong to the Illumist school of philosophy which holds that knowledge and awareness is brought about in the soul by spiritual exercises. Orthodox Islam holds that one can achieve true knowledge and awareness through the acts of worship that exist in the Quran and Sunnah.
Sufis believe that their teachers are also a source for legislation in worship, as they will order them to carry out acts of worship that have no basis in either the Quran or the Sunnah. The extremists from amongst them often claim that Allah dwells within His creation (i.e. in people's hearts, internal organs etc.). Consequently, they ascribe to their Sufi teachers attributes and powers which only belong to Allah, such as the knowledge of the unseen.
They often claim that the texts of the Quran and the Sunnah have an outer, apparent meaning, and as well, an inner, hidden meaning. They hold that the outer, apparent meaning is known to those who practice orthodox Islam, while the inner and hidden meanings of the Quran and Sunnah are known only to their teacher and order. These teachers will often claim that since they have advanced to the inner and hidden meaning of Islam, they no longer need to pray or fast, something that not even the Prophets were excused from.
- from a footnote in the book: The 'Wahhabi' Myth
http://www.thewahhabimyth.com/sufism.htm
Your brother salafi_student[/quote]
GET YOUR WINGS AND FLY LIKE A SUFI
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Re: THE SUFI MYTH
lol when ever i read word sufi
i think of in aniga la i haysto wah suufi family name ani omba iska aqan.lol
i think of in aniga la i haysto wah suufi family name ani omba iska aqan.lol
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