What does this Sahih Hadith mean?

dhuusa_deer · Post by **dhuusa_deer** » Mon Jan 23, 2006 1:42 pm

Sahih Bukhari, Volume 1, Book 2, Number 33:

Narrated 'Abdullah bin 'Amr:

The Prophet said, "Whoever has the following four (characteristics) will be a pure hypocrite and whoever has one of the following four characteristics will have one characteristic of hypocrisy unless and until he gives it up.

1. Whenever he is entrusted, he betrays.
2. Whenever he speaks, he tells a lie.
3. Whenever he makes a covenant, he proves treacherous.
4. Whenever he quarrels, he behaves in a very imprudent, evil and insulting manner.

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In particular the 4th characteristic. Is it mean you're a hypocrite if you badmouth others?

Please lets have scholarly civil discussion, no acrimony. I have bad headache today. Drop your 2 cents with no fuss. Thank you.

LionHeart-112 · Post by **LionHeart-112** » Mon Jan 23, 2006 2:17 pm

[quote="dhuusa_deer"]
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In particular the 4th characteristic. Is it mean you're a hypocrite if you badmouth others?quote]

"is it mean ?

FORGET THE HADITH, LET'S DISCUSS YOUR WRITING SKILLS.

Laughing

Ashlee · Post by **Ashlee** » Mon Jan 23, 2006 2:22 pm

the public school system has failed him Sad

Elan Morin Tedronai · Post by **Elan Morin Tedronai** » Mon Jan 23, 2006 2:23 pm

even a 2 year old can understand what it means.

if you have an argument with someone,you can argue your case with logic and calm.

A hypocrite is one who argues his case through bad language and insults.

There you go

LionHeart-112 · Post by **LionHeart-112** » Mon Jan 23, 2006 2:23 pm

and so did his parents. They raised a little kaafir.

dhuusa_deer · Post by **dhuusa_deer** » Mon Jan 23, 2006 2:25 pm

lioness, what did I say kiddo? Don't derail the topic. This is weighty issue for Islamic Ulemma today, we all need to get to the bottom of it.

Is it mean you're a hypocrite if you badmouth, use vulgar language?

Your answers? thank you.

Ashlee · Post by **Ashlee** » Mon Jan 23, 2006 2:25 pm

he grew up in a group home

LionHeart-112 · Post by **LionHeart-112** » Mon Jan 23, 2006 2:27 pm

@ group home.

i have seen crack babies who turned out better than he did.

biko · Post by **biko** » Mon Jan 23, 2006 2:29 pm

[quote="dhuusa_deer"]Sahih Bukhari, Volume 1, Book 2, Number 33:

Narrated 'Abdullah bin 'Amr:

The Prophet said, "Whoever has the following four (characteristics) will be a pure hypocrite and whoever has one of the following four characteristics will have one characteristic of hypocrisy unless and until he gives it up.

1. Whenever he is entrusted, he betrays.
2. Whenever he speaks, he tells a lie.
3. Whenever he makes a covenant, he proves treacherous.
4. Whenever he quarrels, he behaves in a very imprudent, evil and insulting manner.

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since you chose this hadith why not tell us your understanding of it then we'll be able to put our 2 cent. i know you wouldnt have picked something that you agree with so lets hear your side first.

In particular the 4th characteristic. Is it mean you're a hypocrite if you badmouth others?

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dhuusa_deer · Post by **dhuusa_deer** » Mon Jan 23, 2006 2:30 pm

ashlee, sweaty, what you think the hadith means? Do you agree that the Hadith says Lioness is hypocrite for incessantly using foul language. Please share your thoughts.

Elan Morin Tedronai · Post by **Elan Morin Tedronai** » Mon Jan 23, 2006 2:31 pm

jeez if you cant figure this hadith out then you need to stay away from hadiths man.

you need a public school like the bro suggested

Nimble · Post by **Nimble** » Mon Jan 23, 2006 2:32 pm

I'd say, based on those four criteria, everyone I've met (mostly Somali though) is a hypocrite. In many cases including yours truly.

Four apparently simple characteristics but hard as .... to be all without alienating everyone (telling the truth no matter what), being made into a laughing stock (quarelling politely), making people nervous and malicious simultaneously (being the only one who keeps his/her word and thus giving others cases of serious guilty conscience), etc etc.

Let's pray we don't end up in the ranks of the hypocrites.

Ashlee · Post by **Ashlee** » Mon Jan 23, 2006 2:35 pm

sweaty, its sweety jacka$$, you'd think someone with a mouth as big as yours would know how to spell a word that simple. Rolling Eyes

lionheart was right, we should be discussing your horrible english Surprised

people, dhuusa is the product of an underfunded public school, please don't make the same mistake as his parents..just say NOOO!! Mad

Lord Diplock · Post by **Lord Diplock** » Mon Jan 23, 2006 2:36 pm

[quote="dhuusa_deer"]ashlee, sweaty, what you think the hadith means? Do you agree that the Hadith says Lioness is hypocrite for incessantly using foul language. Please share your thoughts.[/quote]

You do not need anyone to tell u what the hadish is saying, 'IT DOES WHAT SAYS ON THE TIN'

You're an atheist and I dont think you should be so concern with hadiths, you have already belied them and questioned their veracity and more disgracefully, mocked them.

hiphop50girl · Post by **hiphop50girl** » Mon Jan 23, 2006 2:38 pm

[quote="dhuusa_deer"]

1. Whenever he is entrusted, he betrays.
2. Whenever he speaks, he tells a lie.
3. Whenever he makes a covenant, he proves treacherous.
4. Whenever he quarrels, he behaves in a very imprudent, evil and insulting manner.

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I ADMIT Exclamation

I DO INSULT PEOPLE WHEN IM VEXED Exclamation

BUT SINCE IT SAYZ 'WHENEVAH' Exclamation

AINT DAT DIFFERENT Question

COS I DONT DO IT EVERYTIME Exclamation

AND I CAN BE TRUSTED Exclamation

INSHALLAH

I ONLY LIE TO MAH TEACHERZ Exclamation

AND MUM

BUT ONLY TO STOP GETTIN IN TROUBLE Exclamation

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