Human Rights: your opinions

[dhuusa_deer]

Dictionary.com defines Human Rights:

The basic rights and freedoms to which all humans are entitled, often held to include the right to life and liberty, freedom of thought and expression, and equality before the law.

With that descriptive backdrop, what are your views of Human Rights? How important are they to you based on the definition above? Would you live in a country where Human Rights are either severly limited or absent altogether? For us somalis, how can Human Rights help us a ppl? Do we even need them.


The idea of Human Rights has long history going back to the French revolution and even further. The US Declaration of Independence of 1776, undoubtedly the most enlightening document ever written by man, says:

"We hold these truths to be self-evident; that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their creator with certain unalienable rights, that among these are life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness."

Although adhering to these pledges has been inconsistent, history is witness to progressive respect and codification of Human Rights in the West and other parts of the world. Many argue development and creation of just and socially harmonious society demands respect for Human Rights.

Certainly there are plenty stats backing up that view. A direct positive correlation exists between poor underdeveloped societies and lack of Human rights. There are few exceptions but that generalisation -- over all -- holds.

[Sir-Luggoyo]

Here comes the ever whining b!tch.

In my opinion, I think this human rights sh!t is overated and overhyped. Some human beings are no better than savage animals and are better managed by an iron fist with no rights whatsoever, they need to be kept in a short leash for their own good. Case in point, you and Faggot Afdheer, had you been in Somalia, you would have been a nice obedient little boy, a whiner nevertheless but you would've been more concerned where the next slap would land rather than who gets rights and would never have strayed and Afdheere would never have been proud rainbow flag waver

[San_dheer]

I think you are exaggerating a bit on the issue of Human rights. Although liberty and freedom are ideals some societies hold dear, it is not something they fully practice. I think your statement about the correlation between poverty and lack of human rights is farfetched. There are many countries that have great wealth and lack of human rights. I think you may be confusing capitalism with human rights. There is also no guarantee that greater respect would result in economic development of any sort. There are wider economic issues that developing countries need to overcome. Although greater respect for human rights would help the stability of some nations, it is not directly related to economic development. You only have to look at China and Russia among others.

I also agree with Sir-Luggoyo, that some so called freedoms may lead to social decadence and may ultimately destroy societies. Embracing homosexuality being one.

[optimist_1]

Sharia'a the only needed Law

[San_dheer]

optimist, I don't even know what to say to you right now. I can't believe you welcome the sharia.

[optimist_1]

San_dheer What can be possibly better than the Sharia'a

[AMAT-ALLAH]

^^SanDheer--Please explain further...???

[San_dheer]

Anything that doesn't involve capital punishment, stoning and torture of any kind.

[optimist_1]

San_dheer Sharia'a is Islamic Law its not something made up by the Arabs. It comes from the holy Quran and Hadith

[San_dheer]

It is all down to Translation and open to human error. I don’t want the laws from the quran to be altered so, it’s better to apply other laws that consider Islamic law but also individual rights.

Anyway, I’ve finished work. I gotta go.

[LionHeart-112]

^^you are close to crossing the boundary, young lady. You might want to come back to the center.

What's wrong with capital punishment? Any1 who comitts murder must die unless the victim's family forgives him.

You are calling the punishment in the Qur'an torture?

Most of the severe punishment like amputation and stoning can be rarely carried out since there has to be at least 4 witnesses to some of the crimes such adultery. They are meant to be used as deterrant. But if they are caught the sentence must be carried out. No1 is above God's laws. Are you, san dheer?

[biko]

am with san-dheer on this and not ready to welcom sharia, as there is no one whos fit for the job or can uphold the law.

[surria]

What is meant by right? Who determines these rights? Are right based on morality? If someone calls certain kinds of activity morally wrong because they are "improper" (E.g, the wearing of hijab) and yet cannot point to anyone who suffers from them, then I might respond that the idea of "proper" behavior being employed is not a moral one, but rather they are more like aesthetic claims, or an appeal to etiquette or convention and it can be quite difficult when one tries to apply it universally, because we all know that each culture holds its own aesthetic claims or conventions.

[generalka]

capital punishment should be avoided at all costs unless it is impossible to do so. that being said, i do support the death penalty but only for cases in which someone killed someone else.

Also, about the deal of cutting ones hand off when they steal. I really dont like that ruling too; what if the person was stealing to live? Will you starve the poor guy and on top of it cut his hands off? I support that but only if the person stole expensive things for the purpose of making a profit.

[Sir-Luggoyo]

[quote="generalka"]

Also, about the deal of cutting ones hand off when they steal. I really dont like that ruling too; what if the person was stealing to live? Will you starve the poor guy and on top of it cut his hands off? I support that but only if the person stole expensive things for the purpose of making a profit.[/quote]

Generale,

During the time of Khalif Cumar Ibn-Al-Khataab (RA), a young man was caught stealing and brought to him to sever his hand, despite the Islamic treasury making sure that no one goes hungry, this kid resorted to stealing. His mother showed up at the court and started pleading for her son and asked Cumar (RA) to spare her son and added that it is his first time to steal. Omar asked the son how many times he stole prior to this time, and he made swore in Allah's name when answering that question. The man said, since I don't want to utter Allah's name in vain, I will tell the truth, he said this is his 16th time he stole something. Omar (RA) said, if it was his first time Allah would've saved him, and that is when his hand was cut off.

Implementing Sharia is not an easy matter, you have to satisfy the needs of the populace, second, you have to exhaust every other means, you have to prove the guilty party beyong any shadow of doubt, even if they are habitual and pathological individuals.