>>>>Look what Islam has turned into.....
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>>>>Look what Islam has turned into.....
This whole Mohammed Cartoon controversy was brought on by muslims. I mean, Mohammed for all he is worth is a figure of history, and nobody even knows what the guy looked like anyway. it all began when a children's book writer( KÃ¥re Bluitgen)decided to illustrate pictures of mohammed in his kid's book about the prophet. Naturally, He could not illustrate the cartoon after death threats were made by muslims. Now, under these circumstances there will be bold people, or rather crazy suicidal danish journalists who would risk their lives to provoke rather predictable savage muslims who would behave like animals for the sake of negatable pictures by few petty artists trying to show that islam is intolerant.
Really this was all stupid, Chritainity is one of the most ridicules of the monotheist faiths, why did muslims not have the guts to return the insult with rather self-incriminating pictures of Constantine having a threesome with the Trinity or even better those gay priests fondling their gospel boys.
...but no muslims did not act boldly but rather made international headlines for being more intolerant than previously supposed by attacking jews, and forgeting that the paper that printed those cartoons was actaully a Christainity based paper.
....lets face it people, we live in a world where people will voluntarly donate their bodies to cannibals, and so if a man draws a picture about mohammed looking alittle turkish, and exaggerates existing themes in Islam, then there is no reason to behave like God mahamed was murdered or anything, he was arleady dead. There is no amount of damage these pictures could do but make someone laugh.
..so relax muslims....the cartoons were meant to provoke you guys...and it worked, now go home and stop vandalizing in your own countries.
Really this was all stupid, Chritainity is one of the most ridicules of the monotheist faiths, why did muslims not have the guts to return the insult with rather self-incriminating pictures of Constantine having a threesome with the Trinity or even better those gay priests fondling their gospel boys.
...but no muslims did not act boldly but rather made international headlines for being more intolerant than previously supposed by attacking jews, and forgeting that the paper that printed those cartoons was actaully a Christainity based paper.
....lets face it people, we live in a world where people will voluntarly donate their bodies to cannibals, and so if a man draws a picture about mohammed looking alittle turkish, and exaggerates existing themes in Islam, then there is no reason to behave like God mahamed was murdered or anything, he was arleady dead. There is no amount of damage these pictures could do but make someone laugh.
..so relax muslims....the cartoons were meant to provoke you guys...and it worked, now go home and stop vandalizing in your own countries.
- dhuusa_deer
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Som-Light,
Muslims worship mahamed, naturally when your God or God-like Holy man is mocked you get miffed. Their reaction, as already been said, was toooooooo predicatable. It wasn't a case of falling for hook, line and sinker!
Funny thing is these cartoons were originally published back in September of last year. What I don't understand is why all the fuss now?
Anyways, nice weather tonight eh?
Muslims worship mahamed, naturally when your God or God-like Holy man is mocked you get miffed. Their reaction, as already been said, was toooooooo predicatable. It wasn't a case of falling for hook, line and sinker!
Funny thing is these cartoons were originally published back in September of last year. What I don't understand is why all the fuss now?
Anyways, nice weather tonight eh?
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This whole Mohammed Cartoon controversy was brought on by muslims.."
How so? Did they pay the cartoonist?
"predictable savage muslims who would behave like animals for the sake of negatable pictures"....What exactly did they do that was of an animalistic behavoir? Last I checked all they did was protest in their own fashion..or is that now considered a not accepted manner in Western World?
Please spare us the exaggeated undertone, it's like as if you lost your trail of thought couple times while scribbling this piece, the first paragraph did not connect the dots well, it does not bespeak well of your reasoning ability my dear. In any case, You're calling Muslims animal savages and trying to provoke the crowds here while you're at it, So what would that make you in your perfectly civilized world? a predictable sinister..?
Muslims will let the matter go once the "kaafirs" stop the chain re-actions of reprinting the images across the world. Till then your "refined" sensibilities will just have to endure these muslims you so respect.
Advocator, am not well versed in religion lakiin I don't think you're supposed to tell somebody you're going to hell, it's considered predcting and that's danbi, if I remember correctly...
How so? Did they pay the cartoonist?
"predictable savage muslims who would behave like animals for the sake of negatable pictures"....What exactly did they do that was of an animalistic behavoir? Last I checked all they did was protest in their own fashion..or is that now considered a not accepted manner in Western World?
Please spare us the exaggeated undertone, it's like as if you lost your trail of thought couple times while scribbling this piece, the first paragraph did not connect the dots well, it does not bespeak well of your reasoning ability my dear. In any case, You're calling Muslims animal savages and trying to provoke the crowds here while you're at it, So what would that make you in your perfectly civilized world? a predictable sinister..?
Muslims will let the matter go once the "kaafirs" stop the chain re-actions of reprinting the images across the world. Till then your "refined" sensibilities will just have to endure these muslims you so respect.
Advocator, am not well versed in religion lakiin I don't think you're supposed to tell somebody you're going to hell, it's considered predcting and that's danbi, if I remember correctly...
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[quote="Advocator"]YOU KNOW YOUR GOING HELL RIGHT,
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No, I don't know if I will roast in hell or have swell time in heaven. You see, according to Islamic orthodoxy, no one can predict the future. That is stepping on Allah's toes, so BACK OFF!!!
To recap, you can't tell me to commit suicide (a sin) and say I'm going to hell.
Unless you think you're God.
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No, I don't know if I will roast in hell or have swell time in heaven. You see, according to Islamic orthodoxy, no one can predict the future. That is stepping on Allah's toes, so BACK OFF!!!
To recap, you can't tell me to commit suicide (a sin) and say I'm going to hell.
Unless you think you're God.
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We do know what muhammed must have looked like. He was almost certainly well under 5 feet like men of his generation in that area were. Arabs are short-arsed race and even today the average height of a saudi man after 60 years of being force-fed halal Cheese Royale, is still around 5 4".
Muhammed had also a huge scar across his face parting his lips which earned him the nick ashram(the harelipped). He sustained this injury at Uhud when he so disastroulsy planned this robbery. The sword took out few of his teeth as well.
Remember this was BC(Before Colgate) so he would never have brushed his teeth, not even with soap as many arabs still do because there was no soap.
There was no shaving equipment so he would have been hairy with his facial and head hair congealed with dirt(no soap, no shampoo). The Dumb Muzzies and dumb religios who grow beard to `imitate' their Gurus do not realise that those prophets would have worshipped Mr. Gilette if he emerged during their time.
So what we have is a miniscule short-arsed greasy-brown Arab, probably Yasser Arafat look-alike, with horrific scar on his face, a hare-lip, few yellow teeth, massive halitosis and covered in uber-filth hair heaving with lice.
Heck I wouldn't want my picture to be taken in that state either!
We do know what muhammed must have looked like. He was almost certainly well under 5 feet like men of his generation in that area were. Arabs are short-arsed race and even today the average height of a saudi man after 60 years of being force-fed halal Cheese Royale, is still around 5 4".
Muhammed had also a huge scar across his face parting his lips which earned him the nick ashram(the harelipped). He sustained this injury at Uhud when he so disastroulsy planned this robbery. The sword took out few of his teeth as well.
Remember this was BC(Before Colgate) so he would never have brushed his teeth, not even with soap as many arabs still do because there was no soap.
There was no shaving equipment so he would have been hairy with his facial and head hair congealed with dirt(no soap, no shampoo). The Dumb Muzzies and dumb religios who grow beard to `imitate' their Gurus do not realise that those prophets would have worshipped Mr. Gilette if he emerged during their time.
So what we have is a miniscule short-arsed greasy-brown Arab, probably Yasser Arafat look-alike, with horrific scar on his face, a hare-lip, few yellow teeth, massive halitosis and covered in uber-filth hair heaving with lice.
Heck I wouldn't want my picture to be taken in that state either!
- Grant
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Folks!
Printing those cartoons was intentional, and you seem to have missed the point. They wanted the Muslim world to react, and burning a couple of embassies is just about the best thing you could have done for them. By all means, cut off a few Danish heads! How better to demostrate Islams' intolerance and incompatibility with Western values ?
Those people see Islam as the bomber of trains and tall buildings, and Muslims as a subversive organization opposed to Democracy and Western values, attempting to take over their societies and countries. You have given them precisely the ammunition they were looking for.
These burnings and demonstrations may serve to pull the divided Ummah together, but the Islamic communities in the West will pay a price. You are also uniting your enemies and helping them to define the battle.
The Robertsons and the Falwells are going to have a field day with this.
Printing those cartoons was intentional, and you seem to have missed the point. They wanted the Muslim world to react, and burning a couple of embassies is just about the best thing you could have done for them. By all means, cut off a few Danish heads! How better to demostrate Islams' intolerance and incompatibility with Western values ?
Those people see Islam as the bomber of trains and tall buildings, and Muslims as a subversive organization opposed to Democracy and Western values, attempting to take over their societies and countries. You have given them precisely the ammunition they were looking for.
These burnings and demonstrations may serve to pull the divided Ummah together, but the Islamic communities in the West will pay a price. You are also uniting your enemies and helping them to define the battle.
The Robertsons and the Falwells are going to have a field day with this.
Grant
What did you expect muslim's to do sit like idol's while our spiritual leader and the man who revived the message of islam to all of the world was insulted. If anything a clash of civilization is inorder for these stupid Euro's.
If a Jewish caracture was drawn up, the whole newspaper would have been shut down or somebody would be made an example.
What is free speech. Insulting your enemy and calling it our rite to voice our opinions. While on the other hand they can't say shit to their long time foe in the Yahuuds. Are you kidding me man.
If I were in Europe I would voice my opinions just the same way.
If we help unite them then so be it. However one true Mumin will probably be able to defend themselves against 20-30 of these kuffars. There is 1.5 billion muslims and there has to be 100-200 million muslims who are willing to die for there religion rite now. If we can increase those numbers then it'll be great.
Pat robertson and his comrades hate islam with a passion never before seen on television. It would have made No difference had the Ummah just sat there and took the comics at face value. It would have probably been all over american newspapers had we just shyed away.
Plus the benefits of all this coverage will get some Euro's and other non muslims to think who was this MAN? Why are these people defending him when we don't defend our lord and saviour jesus.
Reverting to the Deen will be in Order from these events. So I say the hell with all the kuffar. Takbir Allahu akbar.
What did you expect muslim's to do sit like idol's while our spiritual leader and the man who revived the message of islam to all of the world was insulted. If anything a clash of civilization is inorder for these stupid Euro's.
If a Jewish caracture was drawn up, the whole newspaper would have been shut down or somebody would be made an example.
What is free speech. Insulting your enemy and calling it our rite to voice our opinions. While on the other hand they can't say shit to their long time foe in the Yahuuds. Are you kidding me man.
If I were in Europe I would voice my opinions just the same way.
If we help unite them then so be it. However one true Mumin will probably be able to defend themselves against 20-30 of these kuffars. There is 1.5 billion muslims and there has to be 100-200 million muslims who are willing to die for there religion rite now. If we can increase those numbers then it'll be great.
Pat robertson and his comrades hate islam with a passion never before seen on television. It would have made No difference had the Ummah just sat there and took the comics at face value. It would have probably been all over american newspapers had we just shyed away.
Plus the benefits of all this coverage will get some Euro's and other non muslims to think who was this MAN? Why are these people defending him when we don't defend our lord and saviour jesus.
Reverting to the Deen will be in Order from these events. So I say the hell with all the kuffar. Takbir Allahu akbar.
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Unclebin,
I think it is good taste that prevents the frequent publishing of cartoons aimed at any religion. They are not that common in America, but I have seen cartoons and heard jokes that were aimed at just about everybody, most certainly Jews. Most religious jokes I know are such that you can replace the name of one religion with that of any other. Most of us are not offended even when we are personally the butt of such jokes. It goes with being part of a multi-cultural society.
Remember, this was intentional. It was done to make a point. Pat Robertson and crew, and now an increasing number in Europe, see the world very much as you do.
Some of the images from the protests are chilling, again linking the Prophet to bombings and headchoppings. I don't think any marketing agency in the world will tell you that is good for Islam's image in the West.
I am not, by the way, at all suggesting that Islam take this sitting down. What I am saying is that I think the image now being portrayed to the West plays extraordinarily well into the hands of those who started this.
I think it is good taste that prevents the frequent publishing of cartoons aimed at any religion. They are not that common in America, but I have seen cartoons and heard jokes that were aimed at just about everybody, most certainly Jews. Most religious jokes I know are such that you can replace the name of one religion with that of any other. Most of us are not offended even when we are personally the butt of such jokes. It goes with being part of a multi-cultural society.
Remember, this was intentional. It was done to make a point. Pat Robertson and crew, and now an increasing number in Europe, see the world very much as you do.
Some of the images from the protests are chilling, again linking the Prophet to bombings and headchoppings. I don't think any marketing agency in the world will tell you that is good for Islam's image in the West.
I am not, by the way, at all suggesting that Islam take this sitting down. What I am saying is that I think the image now being portrayed to the West plays extraordinarily well into the hands of those who started this.
The West devoid of value and meaning in a commercialized world will only always try to push the envelope, and since the Jews can't be touched because they own the public, political and financial space in the West, it has to be Islam (being the only force not having it).
I do not look upon the violent events that are on-going now favorably, but reactions are culturally conditioned and the westernised lot like SoML and Galool cannot use a western yard-stick to judge these. Problem is in the West when the gauntlet drops you will be victims as much as any Muslim.
Grant, the veiled threat is not lost on me. Threats on Muslims have already materialised in Scandinavia and a Muslim has already been stabbed in the neck with a knife by some crazed extreme right-winger (nicer word for a racist). I place the responsibility solely on the journalist who gratuitously and with knowing intention started all this, for both the the chaos in the Middle East and the repercussions this will entail for Muslims living among non-muslims.
Everyone has a responsibility for creating harmony and stirring the waters just out of curiosity or malice doesn't help much. If the west feels so superior to these "backward" forces why is it so eager to force their hand. I think I know the answer, Grant may have provided it.
I do not look upon the violent events that are on-going now favorably, but reactions are culturally conditioned and the westernised lot like SoML and Galool cannot use a western yard-stick to judge these. Problem is in the West when the gauntlet drops you will be victims as much as any Muslim.
Grant, the veiled threat is not lost on me. Threats on Muslims have already materialised in Scandinavia and a Muslim has already been stabbed in the neck with a knife by some crazed extreme right-winger (nicer word for a racist). I place the responsibility solely on the journalist who gratuitously and with knowing intention started all this, for both the the chaos in the Middle East and the repercussions this will entail for Muslims living among non-muslims.
Everyone has a responsibility for creating harmony and stirring the waters just out of curiosity or malice doesn't help much. If the west feels so superior to these "backward" forces why is it so eager to force their hand. I think I know the answer, Grant may have provided it.
"but I have seen cartoons and heard jokes that were aimed at just about everybody, most certainly Jews. Most religious jokes I know are such that you can replace the name of one religion with that of any other. Most of us are not offended even when we are personally the butt of such jokes. It goes with being part of a multi-cultural society."
What you dont know or maybe chose to ignore is that ridiculing relgions and making fun of religious ppl have been started by the jews themselves aiming to blend in with christian dominated societies of the west. So they had to ridicule themselves first so that ppl would find it funny...and that led to making jokes of chritianity and Jesus ...eventually the so called multi-cultural and tolerant society has developed which initself has no strong roots even among judeo-christians...since only 30-50 yrs ago we all know that the jews were at the recieving end of the christians paranoia and racism.
However Islam as we believe it is above the frey...since its the real deal for us muslims....and so long as we believe in it...we will not compromise just like the jews did..in order to be accepted and/or approved by the west....see the jews( themselves and some ppl think they're smart and ahead of the others) will do and have done/used the philosophy of the means justifies the end...no matter the price...but we muslims have laws, rules and principles to follow...and deception is not part of it.
What you dont know or maybe chose to ignore is that ridiculing relgions and making fun of religious ppl have been started by the jews themselves aiming to blend in with christian dominated societies of the west. So they had to ridicule themselves first so that ppl would find it funny...and that led to making jokes of chritianity and Jesus ...eventually the so called multi-cultural and tolerant society has developed which initself has no strong roots even among judeo-christians...since only 30-50 yrs ago we all know that the jews were at the recieving end of the christians paranoia and racism.
However Islam as we believe it is above the frey...since its the real deal for us muslims....and so long as we believe in it...we will not compromise just like the jews did..in order to be accepted and/or approved by the west....see the jews( themselves and some ppl think they're smart and ahead of the others) will do and have done/used the philosophy of the means justifies the end...no matter the price...but we muslims have laws, rules and principles to follow...and deception is not part of it.
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