Darwin Dismantled

[Cawar]

Darwin's foolish theory of evolution is being discredited by the hr and you all know even the most liberal of sicentists and most of the so called thinking ppl of the west are growing wary of his short-sighted theory of how we became to exist.

So much for those who still worship him and his rubbish.

In the name of Allah we thank science. Allahu Akbar.


Here is one of the latest blow to darwinists:

Darwin's theory

David Deamer, emeritus professor of chemistry at the University of California at Santa Cruz, said ahead of his presentation: "It is about 140 years since Charles Darwin suggested that life may have begun in a 'warm little pond'. We are now testing Darwin's idea, but in 'hot little puddles' associated with the volcanic regions of Kamchatka [Russia] and Mount Lassen [California, US]."


"The results are surprising and in some ways disappointing. It seems that hot acidic waters containing clay do not provide the right conditions for chemicals to assemble themselves into 'pioneer organisms.'"


http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/4702336.stm


PS. Galol & Co. this time I didnt quote/copy some arab/Asian mind..just thought you should know.

[SomaliLight]

[quote=cawar=article]The results are surprising and in some ways disappointing. It seems that hot acidic waters containing clay do not provide the right conditions for chemicals to assemble themselves into 'pioneer organisms.'" [/quote]

Cawar, now why would you go and attack poor theist old man Darwin, His "hot springs" statement is akin to many bizaare origins of man that Allah has spoken of...

(22.5)We created you from dust, then from a small seed, then from a clot, then from a lump of flesh.

give the man a break. he died a sorry monotheist like yourself expecting to go to heaven and all that shit....

[The_Don_of_djibouti]

Did you find anyone yet to break your s11l nayaah???

[Grant]

[url]http://www.nytimes.com/2006/02/14/education/14evolution.html?ex=1140584400&en=c241659ac3e33208&ei=5059&partner=AOL[/url]

[Gacalisa]

there are many theories that claim to know exactly how man came about, but they all dont seem to tell us how the small cells in the ponds came about or the monkey came. i am sure the cell didnt just pop out or air, and monkey just came running into the jungle. these evolution theories all dont make sense, it just one of reasons that athiest give themselves for not having faith and believe in the one God, who has power and can make anything rapidly and easily.

[SomaliLight]

[quote]Gacalisa these evolution theories all dont make sense, it just one of reasons that athiest give themselves for not having faith and believe in the one God, who has power and can make anything rapidly and easily.[/quote]


Gacalisa, allah has made vague statements too, so why not let the free thinkers figure things out, if allah will give you no answer.

(22.5)We created you from dust, then from a small seed, then from a clot, then from a lump of flesh.

^this creation statement seems pretty pathetic to me too...eat your heart out darwin and others...

[Gacalisa]

it might seem that way to you because you have no believe, and why dont Darwin seem vague and pathetic, when he merely said we come from supposed cells in ponds, can i ask you, how did that pond appear, and where did that cell come from. at least Allah told us he has created the heaven and the earth, and that he has created us, who created this earth, and where did the cells, the trees, the monkeys all come from. have answers for, and then tell me i am pathetic.

[dhuusa_deer]

[quote="Cawar"] PS. Galol & Co. this time I didnt quote/copy some arab/Asian mind..just thought you should know. [/quote]

Yes, you did and in the process showed us all that you are as bad reading Muslim literature as you are reading Kafir literature. In short, you're very poor at understanding what you read.

Far from being dismantled, Darwinism or Evolution Theory, is stronger then ANY time in history.

What this tentative study result shows is the murky, uncertain existing theoretical edifice regarding the origin of LIFE, NOT how life evolved. Evolution theory deals strictly with HOW life evolved NOT how the first living organism came into existance. It could've been created by Allah, brought to earth by aliens or spontaneously arose from nonliving matter.

It is expecting too much from intellectual sloths like Cawar who are deprived of the wherewithal to differentiate Abiogensis and Evolution theory to make fair assessment of this study. To Cawars likes, lacking fundamental understandings of how science works, fail to note that science is EVOLVING field where old ideas are constantly tested, redefined, augmented, corrected and sometimes ditched out. But this study doesn't attack the central core of Evolution theory -- that all living organisms evolved from first living organims -- at all. So it's alot of smoke but no fire.

Evolution is a FACT beyond a shadow of a doubt. No evidence has yet turned up to discredit it.


DD,

Darwin's most trusted bulldog (woof! woof! woof!)

[Cawar]

Dhuuso

Even your words are copied from another atheist snetter and others, let alone your intellectual capacity....you know how many times you repeatedly used "wherewithal" Copied from Galol and Intellectual laziness ...this one actually from me(from the moment you heard them)... ....more than ten times...to make the matters worst is that you dont even know to whom it applies and when to use it.


"Evolution is a FACT beyond a shadow of a doubt. No evidence has yet turned up to discredit it. "

I laugh at statements like this ... But lets hear it from you...what evidence makes it credible beyond any shadow of doubt???


"Cawars likes, lacking fundamental understandings of how science works, fail to note that science is EVOLVING field where old ideas are constantly tested, redefined, augmented, corrected and sometimes ditched out."

Our intellect is what Allah blessed us with...Alxamdulilah...you and I both know that we are not braging about our IQ scores here...lets just say I am much more confident and happy with what I got...

BTW...Do I have to use the hammer every night just to keep you on track?? Abiogenesis, evolution...whichever you choose darwin is being dismantled by Science...and you know it...Accept it or debate it IFF you can with your wherewithal.

PS stop being obsessed with a character called Cawar and talk about what you know and/or have to offer to the topic. War waxu xayawaansanaa!!!!

[Kamal35]

Cawar: Sorry to disagree here, mate, but Darwin theories are still worthy to study and in the right path. You can't reject them because some failures. The main idea is just perfect. Maybe some details are wrong, but the main idea is there, and you can see it with your own eyes.

[AMAT-ALLAH]

^^So you saying just because monkeys share similar biological traits as humans that we decent from them? Then that concept may also explain that we too decended from banana's and pigs are our brothers and sisters. Its just all too far-fethched and completely bogus.

[Kamal35]

Amat-Allah: There is not doubt that we descend from monkeys.

You have a lot of proofs in common life. Take a look to George Bush.

Irrefutable proof that we come from monkeys. We behave like them.

[AMAT-ALLAH]

That is the truth...quickly is there a book i can sign to join monkisism?

[Kamal35]

There's a lot of books you can sign in, Amat... Monkeyism is everywhere...


By the way, how is your reading on sufism going on?

I'm reading Ibn Arabi and, my friend, he's quite fantastic. Highly recommended...

[dhuusa_deer]

[quote="Cawar"]Dhuuso

I laugh at statements like this ... But lets hear it from you...what evidence makes it credible beyond any shadow of doubt??? [quote]

The consistancy and compatibility of the evidences from the following:

Biogeography
paeleontology
genetics
biochemistry
fossils
developmental biology
molecular/anatomical vestiges
parahomology (similarity of structures with diff. functions)


These are 'just' few, where do you like to start? Pick any one of the above and tell us why that evidence is unpalatable the crux Theory of Evolution edifice.


[quote] ...you and I both know that we are not braging about our IQ scores here...[quote]

First true thing you said. Allow me to remind that MY IQ is considerably lower than yours. You are IQ (Idiocy Quotient) is off the charts.



[quote]Abiogenesis, evolution...whichever you choose darwin is being dismantled by Science...and you know it...Accept it or debate it IFF you can with your wherewithal. [quote]

You can't lump together two unrelated fields -- Abiogenesis and Evolution -- and expect to have fruitfull discussion. Since Evolution theory starts with the premise of the existance of at least 1 living organism and provides both explantion and mechanism for how all subsequent organisms evolved from it, its senseless to talk about how: "life on earth unlikely to have emerged from volvanic springs," as the article you posted stated.

And may I ask you WHERE specifically in the article you posted does it say Evolution theory is debunked, dismantled or anything of the sort? From my reading of it there is no mention of any such implication. It's devised by your own biased and dishonest twisting of genuine science news article. Even cheating couldn't help you overcome your stupidity as you can't discern two uncomparable fields.


Abiogenesis and Evolution theory are unrelated! I can't put a finer point on this than I already have. If you wanna talk about Abiogenesis, lets do so. If you wanna talk about evolution theory, again I'm willing to partake. But I'm not willing to disabuse you of your ignorance unyielding to the fact that abiogenesis and evolution theory are two unrelated and separate topics.