FUNNY HOW SOMALIAND/LIA IS DOING WELL IN TELECOMMUNICATIONS.

[North brother]

AND MAKING WEBSITES, WE HAVE A WEBSITE MADE DAILY, HOW MANY WEBSITES DO SOMALIS HAVE ANYONE KNOW? BECAUSE IAM SURE THEY ARE MORE THAN MOST AFRICAN NATIONS.

[The Law26]

[quote="North brother"]AND MAKING WEBSITES, WE HAVE A WEBSITE MADE DAYLY, HOW MANY WEBSITES DO SOMALIS HAVE ANYONES KNOW? [/quote]

What happens to the telecommunications advances Somalia made under the warlords when Aweys Dahir and his militias come to power, in regards to their actions in shutting down video production places of bollywood movies, and cinema theatres in the areas of mogadiscio they controlled? Won't they ban the internet and other means of communication systems, as a control method?

[San_dheer]

Law, I think you are exaggerating a little. Last I heard it was Islamic courts that shut down or shall I say burnt down those Somali bollywood production studios. I think it will be almost impossible to control Somalis and besides the fewer controls there are the more development there will be.

North, I think the development of telecommunications is mainly due to Xawilaad. The websites are mainly because of politics. Everyone wants to have influence and their voice to be heard which has resulted in all kinds of silly websites. Anyway, they all serve a purpose. Too many khaat munching people in Somalia/land, they need to have something to argue about.

[The Law26]

[quote="San_dheer"]Law, I think you are exaggerating a little. Last I heard it was Islamic courts that shut down or shall I say burnt down those Somali bollywood production studios. I think it will be almost impossible to control Somalis and besides the fewer controls there are the more development there will be. .[/quote]

Sandheer

Who is in charge of the Islamic courts? And if they succeed in running the affairs of the state, what is your assesment of their agenda?

No foreign force has ever succeeded conquering the Afghanis, and we Somalis share many traits with them; tribalism, bravery, and Islam. Yet, the Taliban managed to rule them. We are exactly in similar crossroads in pre-Taliban Afghani warlordism. Thus far, this group has shown to possess similar ideology and the committment to establish such a rule, unless you do have information that points to the opposite. Share with us.

[San_dheer]

There were Islamic courts as far back as 1993 in Xamar. I think they are aqwaan muslimiin (hope I spelt it right). They have nothing to do with those warlords and qabiil. I think they get funding from Saudi Arabia and Egypt. Anyway, they provided some kind of retribution at least on the weak and defenceless. I don't know what their agenda is but I think they want to make Somalia an Islamic state. Well, anything is better than qabiilist warlords.

[The Law26]

[quote="San_dheer"]There were Islamic courts as far back as 1993 in Xamar. I think they are aqwaan muslimiin (hope I spelt it right). They have nothing to do with those warlords and qabiil. I think they get funding from Saudi Arabia and Egypt. Anyway, they provided some kind of retribution at least on the weak and defenceless. I don't know what their agenda is but I think they want to make Somalia an Islamic state. Well, anything is better than qabiilist warlords. [/quote]

That means settling for the lesser evil. So, this topic is about the telecommunications progress Somalis have made in the face of the rule of the warlords, what changes do we expect? And let us not exxagerate, because some here think to question such of a regime is un-Islamic. As usual, they are the first who are not willing to live under such a regime.

[San_dheer]

Under shari'a law. S'net and the like would be banned, DD, Galool, Marduuf, Mukhtar and Somalilight etc would all be in trouble. There would be more censorship and women would have to dress more decently.

[The Law26]

[quote="San_dheer"]Under shari'a law. S'net and the like would be banned, DD, Galool, Marduuf, Mukhtar and Somalilight etc would all be in trouble. There would be more censorship and women would have to dress more decently. [/quote]

Thank you very, very, very much. You taught and elnightened me and may I say that I learnt a valuable information about Islam that I didn't know before. I support them banning Somalinet. One more question, can I ask you which model of Shriah Laws will they adopt, if you may pardon me? What is a "decent" dress? Will they be forced to wear Niqaab? Will they be allowed to study, work and to drive?

[LionHeart-112]

TheLaw

I think Sandheer is just saying The Wadaads, whose rationale and motive for wanting to enfornce Islamic law we don't know for sure, seem to be better for the somalis than the warlords. None of us living in Diaspora know exactly what's going on and why the Wadaads want to implement sharia. And so what if they shut down few bollywood movie studios? It's xaraam anyway. But i highly doubt they will go to the lenghts of the Taliban.


And how many models of Sharicah are there?

[The Law26]

[quote="LionHeart-112"]TheLaw

I think Sandheer is just saying The Wadaads, whose rationale and motive for wanting to enfornce Islamic law we don't know for sure, seem to be better for the somalis than the warlords. None of us living in Diaspora know exactly what's going on and why the Wadaads want to implement sharia. And so what if they shut down few bollywood movie studios? It's xaraam anyway. But i highly doubt they will go to the lenghts of the Taliban.

And how many models of Sharicah are there?[/quote]

Lion I do understand what you are saying, but if it is xaraam to watch movies, don't you watch movies and American shows? Why? And if it is xaraam why can't they watch and voluntarily sin like you and most Somalis on those boards? The only Muslims countries that ban movies are Saudi Arabia and the former Taliban. That is one model of Sharia Law along that strictly enforces the rules and regulations concerning female Muslims that I mentioned above.

No one is saying they are worse than the warlords. We all agree that any system instead of the warlords is better than the warlords. It is just that we should discuss their policies and analyze it from all corners as Somalis.

[LionHeart-112]

TheLaw

Sure i watch movies. Hell, i go to the movies or rent one at least twice a month. I realise it's sin to watch them but then again you can sin watching the news because the female anchor's head is uncovered. And in this day and age, you'd have to live in a cave to avoid small sins like that. But i'd not shed a tear if all movies disappeared today or were banned.

"It is just that we should discuss their policies and analyze it from all corners as Somalis."


Bro, I wish things were as easy as this. If we could discuss policies, have elections and reach a consensus in a peaceful way we wouldn't have civil war. Nothing is as easy as that. SOME1 MUST SEIZE POWER FIRST. But we are not talking about how the wadaads plan to run the country, assuming they come out victarious. Maybe they will hold elections, maybe they will set up a taliban like style regime..We simply don;t know that. What we know for a fact is that they want Peace, something we are all starving for. And i believe a lot of people are choosing their side at least for now. So i believe this is the point sister San dheer was trying to make. We haven't got to creating government or establishing law & order. We want peace first. Any type of government, whether it'd be communist, totalitarian, democracy or Sharicah is better than anarchy....

[San_dheer]

Law,

Decent = Jalaabiib.

To be honest, I don't know that much about the shari'a but it beats not having any law. I would prefer Somalia to have common law and to be liberal democratic country but I doubt that is gonna happen.

[LionHeart-112]

^^It's the best kind of Law since it's from Allah (swt). I recommend you read more about it. Believe me, it's not as scary as you were made to believe by the media.

[The Law26]

[quote="LionHeart-112"]TheLaw

Sure i watch movies. Hell, i go to the movies or rent one at least twice a month. I realise it's sin to watch them but then again you can sin watching the news because the female anchor's head is uncovered. And in this day and age, you'd have to live in a cave to avoid small sins like that. But i'd not shed a tear if all movies disappeared today or were banned.

"It is just that we should discuss their policies and analyze it from all corners as Somalis."


Bro, I wish things were as easy as this. If we could discuss policies, have elections and reach a consensus in a peaceful way we wouldn't have civil war. Nothing is as easy as that. SOME1 MUST SEIZE POWER FIRST. But we are not talking about how the wadaads plan to run the country, assuming they come out victarious. Maybe they will hold elections, maybe they will set up a taliban like style regime..We simply don;t know that. What we know for a fact is that they want Peace, something we are all starving for. And i believe a lot of people are choosing their side at least for now. So i believe this is the point sister San dheer was trying to make. We haven't got to creating government or establishing law & order. We want peace first. Any type of government, whether it'd be communist, totalitarian, democracy or Sharicah is better than anarchy....[/quote]

You can sin but Somalis in Somalia aren't allowed. You disregard the "Sharia Laws" but you are advocating others to be punished under such "Law"? Do you really agree with what you are saying, or, you are just saying in desperation for a change? This topic is about telecommunications, what about televission, internet and Radio? Are they all xaraam too?

OK, we agree whatever system replaces the warlords, that it will be the lesser evil. But considering they have enacted such laws, don't you think that they lean towards the Wahabi version of Islamic Law? And it is true that doesn't affect me and you, because we are not females, and we don't live under their jurisdiction, but what makes you think that will be the end the end of anarchy? And what guarantees are in place from them that they will not be interfering with the affairs of Somaliland? Or, is it all based on wishfull thinking?

[LionHeart-112]

Thelaw

bro i gotta run to work. But i was trying to say is that we don't know how the wadaads will run the country if they gain power but it can't be worse than what we have now. Although, i'm not happy with taliban like regime, it certainly beats the total break down of the system we have in Somalia now. The warlords have had 15 years to make something of themselves. They failed. I'm saying let's give some1 else a chance...