Somaliland and the Death Penalty

[Lord Diplock]

If Somaliland is such a nice, modern democratic country why do they have the provision of state murder in their criminal law?

The state murder of that man who has killed the police commander in ceerigabo is undefensible and it must be hoped they gov't of Somaliland ought to commut all those on death row into life sentence.

Already one man is dead and instead of acceptance of compensation towards his family or life sentence, the firing squad is called and a human being is put down.

Kind regards

[cabaas1]

40 yrs old skinny virgin

shut the fuk up

[maria from west side]

Watajaza wenyewe.

[Gatspy]

I've read what other posters wrote down in other topics about this man. All i'm wondering about is why is everyone overlooking the fact that this man himself took an innocent mans life.

[Lord Diplock]

[quote="maria from west side"]Watajaza wenyewe.[/quote]

watajaza nini? tunaongeya juu ya kifuu ya mwanadamu hapa

[Xplosive]

[quote]I've read what other posters wrote down in other topics about this man. All i'm wondering about is why is everyone overlooking the fact that this man himself took an innocent mans life.[/quote]

I second that! These focks have been in the west for too long. Kulahaa "life sentence", "how can we take the life of a human being ".. I say STFU!

He killed somebody's father, brother and son.. I cant understand how you people think.

I think many of you would've reacted differently had you seen pictures of the murderer with a gun in his hand about to kill the innocent Sarkaal (in broad day light and for no reason whatsoever!).. you feel sympathy for him only because you saw the photos of the execution.

I salute Somaliland for having done the right thing for once!

[Aristocrat-1]

Lord Diplcok,

Whilst you may have the name of one of the finest ever law lords, your post leaves a lot to be desired.

It is highly ethnocetric to assume that we must all think like the west and condemn the death penalty.

The death penalty can be a powerful deterent in certain societies such us Somaliland, Saudi Arabia etc....Eastern Societies if you will.

when one compares the crime rates in Somaliland with that of the United Kingdom, there is a stark difference, the UK is far more crime ridden, and i suggest it is because there is no adequate deterent.

Long Live Somaliland!

[michael_ital]

X, do you believe that if the murderer had been the son of someone prominent, he would've been lined up agin the wall and shot ?? Until the death penalty can be applied arbitrarily, both in the East AND here in the West, there is no place for it in a modern society.

[maria from west side]

[quote="Lord Diplock"][quote="maria from west side"]Watajaza wenyewe.[/quote]

watajaza nini? tunaongeya juu ya kifuu ya mwanadamu hapa[/quote]



Namimi naongea kuhusu hao wanadamu wenyewe, kuwa watajaza wenyewe. Wananchi wa nchi hiyo ndio wachaguaji, cho chote watakacho penda ndio kitakuwa, mimi na wewe hatuna usemi wowote. Hiyo ndio demokrati.

Sijui kama umenielewa dhumuni langu ama fikra yangu.

[Xplosive]

[quote="michael_ital"]X, do you believe that if the murderer had been the son of someone prominent, he would've been lined up agin the wall and shot ?? Until the death penalty can be applied arbitrarily, both in the East AND here in the West, there is no place for it in a modern society.[/quote]

I seriously dont care about the if's and but's.. in this particular case, Somaliland acted just like it should according to Islam and Tribal laws. End of story.

[quote]Until the death penalty can be applied arbitrarily, both in the East AND here in the West, there is no place for it in a modern society[/quote]

Explain what you mean a little further..

[michael_ital]

Just what I said, if he'd have been the son of someone prominent, would the situation have been handled the way it was ?? And again, I don't trust ANY man made gov't to mete out the death penalty. Either here or there.

[Xplosive]

Too many if's. "If the victim had been isaaq", "If the victim had not been an officer" "--but what if..."..

you're not hearing me dude.. screw the if's and but's! The guy was a murderer, he shot the officer in broad day light so there is no doubt about whether he did it or not. The family of the dead officer wanted him dead.. this case couldnt've been handled any better.

[Lord Diplock]

[quote="maria from west side"][quote="Lord Diplock"][quote="maria from west side"]Watajaza wenyewe.[/quote]

watajaza nini? tunaongeya juu ya kifuu ya mwanadamu hapa[/quote]



Namimi naongea kuhusu hao wanadamu wenyewe, kuwa watajaza wenyewe. Wananchi wa nchi hiyo ndio wachaguaji, cho chote watakacho penda ndio kitakuwa, mimi na wewe hatuna usemi wowote. Hiyo ndio demokrati.

Sijui kama umenielewa dhumuni langu ama fikra yangu.[/quote]


Nimekuelewa vizuri dada, lakini, hati kami ni haki ya wale watu wanaichi wainchi ya somaliland kuchuguwa ama kurufusi kuwua watu na serikalini, nchi mimi ndipo ya uongereza, ukiwauliza wanayotembeya mtaani, 'je, unathania ni kitu kizuri serikali iwahuwe wale ambayo wameuwa mwegeni?, wengi wao watasema bila shaka 'naam'.

Lakini, serikali ya kiingereza na la nchi mengi ya uluya wamekata kufuata amri hili ya wachukuzi. Basi, siyo useme ni chambo cha demokarisia, lakini sazikini, kuna vituunaweza kuignore

[maria from west side]

Sio vizuri kuingilia siasa ya nchi nyingine, kinini kinacho kuuma kuhusu hayo mambo yasiokuhusu?
Wanayo mauaji kwa yeyote anayeua mtu, awe msomali au mzungu, wakijani au wanjano. hata kama sipendelei lakini hivyo ndio ilivyo. Kumbuka hakuna serikali isiyo kuwa na kasoro, iwe SL, China au marekani.

Haisaidii kitu kulalamika, kwani wananchi ndio wanamadaraka ya kulalamika kama kweli hawapendelei msimamo huwo.

Somaliland ni nchi ya kidemokrati, kunauchaguzi kilamara.Wananchi wamefanya uchaguzi wa viongozi, nahao viongozi ndio wanaokuwa na madaraka kwa niaba ya wananchi na hiyo ni demokrati (inn-direct)

Unataka kuniambia Tony Blair huwa anauliza wananchi wake kila mara anapotaka kubadilisha sheria au kuleta sheria mpya?

[Lord Diplock]

[quote="maria from west side"]Sio vizuri kuingilia siasa ya nchi nyingine, kinini kinacho kuuma kuhusu hayo mambo yasiokuhusu?
Wanayo mauaji kwa yeyote anayeua mtu, awe msomali au mzungu, wakijani au wanjano. hata kama sipendelei lakini hivyo ndio ilivyo. Kumbuka hakuna serikali isiyo kuwa na kasoro, iwe SL, China au marekani.

Haisaidii kitu kulalamika, kwani wananchi ndio wanamadaraka ya kulalamika kama kweli hawapendelei msimamo huwo.

Somaliland ni nchi ya kidemokrati, kunauchaguzi kilamara.Wananchi wamefanya uchaguzi wa viongozi, nahao viongozi ndio wanaokuwa na madaraka kwa niaba ya wananchi na hiyo ni demokrati (inn-direct)

Unataka kuniambia Tony Blair huwa anauliza wananchi wake kila mara anapotaka kubadilisha sheria au kuleta sheria mpya? [/quote]


Kwansa kabisa, tafadhali, usinisomeye mimi kuwusu kama SL ni nchi ambacho inademikorasiya, sijali hata kidoko. fuck somaliland

so, pls, refrain from that. kwaheri.