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Why I can't stand immigrant Profs...

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They come from countries where only a few people go to college-- a few of these folks become arrogant because in these lands, it really does confer high social status to become a professor, and arbitrary and capricious behavior is almost expected. It doesn't help that the class background of these faculty is often a higher class one in the country of origin. Frequently, the teaching methods in these countries are, for good or bad, almost victorian-- meaning that students who don't memorize the items the professor thinks they should are almost vilified.

Another issue is that many foreign professors come from contries that were colonized by such European powers as the British and French. So upper class professors from former colonies often imitate the worst characteristics of these colonial overlords, which have been taken into the culture of the upper classes in these countries.

These professors are often very liberal but can also be quite didactic, and judgmental i.e., they don't like American students who they feel to be lazy, and undeserving of the education they are receiving because of their laziness. They feel that students should be enthusiastic about education b/c education is so prized in their home countries b/c it's a commodity and many students in America do not think this way. They don't feel they have to spark interest in the subject. Whether this is right or not isn't the point but I think foreign professors have to adopt a different manner of teaching to meet the milieu. Also, a student has the right to expect a professor to be clear. I'm not saying professors should lose their accents to become American, b/c American does not mean WASP but I have the right to have a professor speak in an accent I can understand.

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Naa shaley bad somalia ka tiimi eh isxaarifiiska iska daa


''but I have the right to have a professor speak in an accent I can understand. ''


People like u wont allow immigrants to have jobs other then cleaning houses, walahi ur brainwashed by ur preppy white friends caadi iska diig yarey
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[quote="First Lady"]Naa shaley bad somalia ka tiimi eh isxaarifiiska iska daa


''but I have the right to have a professor speak in an accent I can understand. ''


People like u wont allow immigrants to have jobs other then cleaning houses, walahi ur brainwashed by ur preppy white friends caadi iska diig yarey[/quote]

If they can't communicate effectively, it doesn't really matter how well educated they are. Remember that even the pseudo-student has paid for the class, and can expect nothing less than a comprehensible professor.
So, this has nothing to do with being "brainwashed".
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surria.... ur one of those ppl that uses an obscure word when a simpler one would easily do.

i still don't know what ur beef is with these educated foriegn intellectuals... education is a valuable commodity everywere yarey... may u hate the fact that he pointed the blatent fact that most of these lazy american students are unappreciative of the educational opportunities that african/asian students would die for

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you guys are really far off,


what surria is saying is that Some foreign professors are stuck up, because they come from backward countries who use class and money to judge people. Where in the Western world, the average proessor comes to do his job, he expects you to pass the class and be seated and quite. He does not care if you are paying attention, look lazy or show enthusiasm.

It's a very liberal culture.

Where in some third world countries they expect you to be thankful for being able to study. But in the western world young folks look at it as just a duty, something not out of the ordinary.

So some professors in the third world come with a stuck up attitude on top of not being able to speak clearly.

Trust me i've had the worst professor try to teach something as simple as math, and he made it seem like he was teaching "rocket science".
Until today i hate that east euro fool--sorry excuse for a professor!
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^^^ thanx for that. i guess i took one look and charged off with a reply... no hard feelings. incompetent lecturers are a bij. watta u gonna do right.
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Yes, for example some of them may be bright and may have some great life/work experience but the way they speak down to people and the low low low grades they hand out make the learning environment poisonous.

They will destroy you like an academic ninja Laughing
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[quote="First Lady"]Naa shaley bad somalia ka tiimi eh isxaarifiiska iska daa


''but I have the right to have a professor speak in an accent I can understand. ''


People like u wont allow immigrants to have jobs other then cleaning houses, walahi ur brainwashed by ur preppy white friends caadi iska diig yarey[/quote]
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i dont see why your geting your knikers in a twist!...if she cant amke head or tails from what her profesor is saying then i think she got the right to be stropy.
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a lil a$$ kissing goes a long way...


na, ha ii dagaysaniin. no substitute for hard work. actually there is ...jus pay an over achiever for those coursework papers.
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[quote="daba_gaale"]

Trust me i've had the worst professor try to teach something as simple as math, and he made it seem like he was teaching "rocket science".
Until today i hate that east euro fool--sorry excuse for a professor![/quote]

This is so true, the east Europeans are pretty bad, but I think the Indians are the worst, these people hold on to grades like it was their own money.
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Post by QansaGabeyle »

I had this spanish math professor once and no one in class really understand what fukk he was saying 90 percent of the time. Not only did he speak poor english but the motherfukka also stuttered like he was on some kind of experimental drug.
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Just because your pakistani professor sneered at your ineptness doesn't give u the right to insult all foreign professors. moi, I go with the flow. My Russian history teachy totally and constantly trips over his words at his lectures (each sentence being interrepted by an "ummm" or "ehhhh" Laughing ) but when it comes to essays he is a fantastically easy grader. And I can carry on the most delightful conversations with him during office hours. anyway, u r stupid to condemn. stupid. Embarassed
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I love foreign proff's, as a matter of fact when I first go to a class and realize that the proff isn't American. I get excited, I love foriegn Proffs they are by FAR more interesting to listen to, more fair. The only down side to them is maybe their patience because they come from countries where everyone just tries really hard or just gets things, which is alot less than can be said for American Students. Also, they don't let you bullshit, as far as exam taking or being absent is concerned. If you do what you need to do, they'll actually respect you. They are more personal with their students also, to them you are not just another number or check.
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[quote="studente"]Just because your pakistani professor sneered at your ineptness doesn't give u the right to insult all foreign professors. moi, I go with the flow. My Russian history teachy totally and constantly trips over his words at his lectures (each sentence being interrepted by an "ummm" or "ehhhh" Laughing ) but when it comes to essays he is a fantastically easy grader. And I can carry on the most delightful conversations with him during office hours. anyway, u r stupid to condemn. stupid. Embarassed[/quote]



I see that you are slow as thick shit through a narrow funnel Laughing Laughing

Your envy for those who have educated themselves and succeeded despite formidable barriers is clear.


My point once again is that it's a waste of a course when you are in a auditorium with 100 students and the professor doesn't speak clear english. Hun, It's not rocket science to have a fluent english teacher speak english, and its not exactly biased or 'ineptness" when the teacher can't teach to their students if they can't communicate ...I think I have a right to have profs who can speak standard English well. Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes
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I would think they grade harshley but I can't really say for sure if they do or not. I haven't had a foriegn professor long enough to find out how much of a tough grader he or she is. I always dropped their classes within the first week of the semester. Indians must be the worst with thick abu accents and curry stench filling the room everyday.
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