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War through the eyes of Somali women.
.A new book on Somalia’s brutal conflict, which hit headlines in 1992 when U.S. troops landed in Mogadishu to lead an ill-fated intervention to restore peace, gives voice to Somali women’s experience of the war.
Edited by Judish Gardner and Judy El Bushra, “Somalia: The Untold Story†(Pluto Press and the Catholic Institute for International Relations) contains personal testimonies of the slaughter and sexual violence that characterised the factional fighting, as well as the role played by women in mobilising for peace.
In this extract, radio broadcaster Shukri Hariir tells how she and her family narrowly escaped death in May 1988 as government and militia forces, in a merciless response to rebel attacks, massacred civilians in the northwestern towns of Burao and Hargeisa. An estimated 50,000 civilians were killed in the area between May 1988 and March 1989, and more than half a million people were displaced.
On the morning of 27 May 1988, as news reader for Radio Hargeisa, I reported that the (rebel) Somali National Movement (SNM) had invaded and captured Burao the previous night. Having made this announcement I immediately excused myself from the Service and went down town to my mother’s small food store to collect bags of food, charcoal and store water in case of war. We had reported that the SNM were on their way to capture Hargeisa and would come soon.
On the night of Tuesday 31 May 1988 we were woken by the thunderlike explosions of war. The sky was red with shell and rocket fire. We were not used to the incessant sounds of heavy artillery and rockets. A ‘Stalin Organ’ or ‘PM’ gun and a tank situated close by filled us with fear and restlessness and as a result my husband, myself and my six children lay awake until morning.
In the morning non-uniformed forces in more than 40 armed vehicles entered Hargeisa from the west. They were led by Jeeps equipped with heavy anti-tank guns. This procession passed by our house, which was located on the main Hargeisa-Gabiley road. We realised they were SNM forces and wondered if they had captured the Faqash [derogatory slang for the forces of the government] in one day. An hour later we found that our area was in the hands of the government army. At 8am we went here and there trying to get information and talking to neighbours who belonged to Barre’s tribe. But our neighbours would not greet us and looked on us with hostile eyes. Two passed by near us: one was a ma’alin, or teacher, at a Koranic school located near to our house, the other was a National Security Service office watchman. Both were armed with A-K 45 rifles. Partly because of their old age and partly because I imagined that sheikhs and elderly men would not be moved so quickly to engage in war, I did not expect these people to take up arms. From the way they were holding the rifles it was apparent that this was the first time they had ever taken up such a weapon. When we asked about the situation, they answered with angry expressions on their faces.
‘Are you not aware of what your kinsmen have done? Then what are you expecting?’ My husband responded: ‘Things will be as God wishes.’ Three more armed men appeared leading an unfortunate woman, she was blindfolded and her neck was tied with a rope on which they were pulling, as though she was a camel. Her clothes were torn and bloodied. The poor woman looked as if she was shaking with pain. Although we knew one of the three men pulling her along we did not talk to them. One of the men glanced at us saying: ‘The most dangerous spy is caught!’ They reached a point about 100 metres away from us when an exchange of fire nearby could be heard. They suddenly threw the woman down on the ground and shot her dead.
Bodies were scattered here and there, not all of them government supporters. We saw the bodies of nine dead government supporters and two SNM. We saw through the window women who had just learnt about the death of some relatives; [they were] stabbing three dead bodies with knives. We were afraid that these women would rush and kill us. Luckily, at this point this idea had not entered their heads.
On the night of Wednesday 1 June we stayed in our house discussing our way out of the situation. We felt the SNM had captured the northern part of Hargeisa and that the East-West would be the front line. We were convinced that we could not cross the frontline, which was north of us. We decided to go to my mother’s house in southern Hargeisa. We believed the people from my husband’s family were cut off from us by the frontline. I was six months pregnant. The oldest of my six children was a boy of six years, the youngest were my twin boys aged one. Two of my children could undertake a long march but it would prove difficult for the others so we needed people to help us carry the children.
On the Wednesday morning we saw one of our neighbours, a government supporter called Ahmed, leading three tanks to us. While they were passing the house he told them something about us. The tank directed its barrel towards us. Instinctively we rushed the children into the dining room on the other side of the house. We were just in time – the tank devastated two bedrooms and the sitting room with six heavy shots. Miraculously we were not harmed, although we were very frightened. They clearly thought that we were dead. After a few minutes they were distracted by heavy firing nearby, and the tank moved on.
We immediately set off to a neighbouring Isaq family. We were explaining to our neighbour what had happened when armed men knocked at the door. When the door was opened the men asked: ‘Who is the man who fired at us?’ They were told that nobody had fired anything. But they ordered all of us out of the house while firing into the house to terrify us. Seven of the armed men looted everything useful from the house, including the curtains. Both of our households decided to escape while we were still alive. We left all we had except for SSh20,000 [equivalent to US$50] which the looters had failed to find. We walked 3 km to reach my mother and displaced sister with her five children in the southern part of the city.
We felt some relief in the morning because the war was not so near, although government troops were moving on the roads near us. But in the evening we moved to another house to get away from the government’s artillery bombardment of all the houses and the resulting exchange of fire. We re-located to a house situated in the southern tip of Hargeisa.
Everybody was thinking about how to escape. All were convinced that anyone staying behind would be killed by the defeated troops of (Somali President) Siad Barre or by civilians whose relatives had been killed by SNM troops. On the fourth day of the war I met the unfortunate Asha Yusuf who told me the menfolk in her group, including her husband, had been slaughtered and that even the babes in arms had been checked to determine their sex; and four baby boys including her only son had been slaughtered. As she was recounting this story tears were streaming from her eyes. I cried too, as did the others who were with us.
Kadra Ali, a girl who was with us told us that she had witnessed something similar. She had been hiding in thick shrubs when a around 50–60 people were shot dead while trying to escape – two babies were left crying over their mothers’ dead bodies. Kadra could not tell us whether the babies had been eaten by animals or whether they had been taken by people. She said these troops remained there until dark dividing the looted wealth among themselves and checking the pockets of dead bodies for money.
I couldn’t get anyone to help me carry my children and without help we couldn’t make it. The families who had strong members had a better chance of escaping.
On the tenth day of the war we decided to make our fourth escape attempt, determined to join the settlements of the displaced populations located in the north of Hargeisa. When we were almost half way across, somewhere near the eastern side of Hargeisa, troops intercepted us and ordered us to sit down in a line. They watched us closely as if they had caught the highest commanders of the SNM. We were sure they would kill us all. After we had been sitting there for an hour and a half, a door of a house nearby opened. I looked at the person who had stepped outside and recognised him as a colonel called Hassan Wiif who was known to my husband. I called to him to help us and release us. We did not expect a positive response because of our experience during the past days. But the man did order our release. Despite the reports of his troops which identified us as SNM, the colonel ordered the release of all the people. Luckily for us this man did not have the poor tribal mentality that so many others had sunk to the level of.
Those people who were not carrying small children continued their attempt to escape. But we could do nothing but return to the house we had set out from that morning.
Day by day people were beginning to adapt to the awful situation. In the early days of the war large groups would try to escape after sunset – the only time of day when it was possible to move unnoticed. At other times you could be easily seen by the government troops, who would ambush people en route. On the day we decided to try to escape we got together with many families and planned to begin after midnight. It was six weeks after the war had started. At one o’clock in the morning we started out. We were not less than 300 people. A man who knew more about the route we would escape by was assigned to guide us. We walked in single file without making the least noise. Although heavily pregnant I carried my year-old twin boys, my mother carried the next youngest. Some people were reluctant to escape in a group with young children for fear that the children would cry out and alert attackers. All the way I prayed that my children would be able to keep silent. They did, and I wondered if the smallest ones had been ‘trained’ by such awful experiences that they had been through.ones had been ‘trained’ by such awful experiences that they had been through.ones had been ‘trained’ by such awful experiences that they had been through.ones had been ‘trained’ by such awful experiences that they had been through.
After four hours walking south west the guide told us that we had passed through the hostile area. We were so relieved and pleased. After another hour of walking we reached Gerebis, a village 30 km south west of Hargeisa. We rested for a few days and then continued our journey, still on foot, to the refugee camp in Harshin and later to Harta Sheik in Ethiopia.
Edited by Judish Gardner and Judy El Bushra, “Somalia: The Untold Story†(Pluto Press and the Catholic Institute for International Relations) contains personal testimonies of the slaughter and sexual violence that characterised the factional fighting, as well as the role played by women in mobilising for peace.
In this extract, radio broadcaster Shukri Hariir tells how she and her family narrowly escaped death in May 1988 as government and militia forces, in a merciless response to rebel attacks, massacred civilians in the northwestern towns of Burao and Hargeisa. An estimated 50,000 civilians were killed in the area between May 1988 and March 1989, and more than half a million people were displaced.
On the morning of 27 May 1988, as news reader for Radio Hargeisa, I reported that the (rebel) Somali National Movement (SNM) had invaded and captured Burao the previous night. Having made this announcement I immediately excused myself from the Service and went down town to my mother’s small food store to collect bags of food, charcoal and store water in case of war. We had reported that the SNM were on their way to capture Hargeisa and would come soon.
On the night of Tuesday 31 May 1988 we were woken by the thunderlike explosions of war. The sky was red with shell and rocket fire. We were not used to the incessant sounds of heavy artillery and rockets. A ‘Stalin Organ’ or ‘PM’ gun and a tank situated close by filled us with fear and restlessness and as a result my husband, myself and my six children lay awake until morning.
In the morning non-uniformed forces in more than 40 armed vehicles entered Hargeisa from the west. They were led by Jeeps equipped with heavy anti-tank guns. This procession passed by our house, which was located on the main Hargeisa-Gabiley road. We realised they were SNM forces and wondered if they had captured the Faqash [derogatory slang for the forces of the government] in one day. An hour later we found that our area was in the hands of the government army. At 8am we went here and there trying to get information and talking to neighbours who belonged to Barre’s tribe. But our neighbours would not greet us and looked on us with hostile eyes. Two passed by near us: one was a ma’alin, or teacher, at a Koranic school located near to our house, the other was a National Security Service office watchman. Both were armed with A-K 45 rifles. Partly because of their old age and partly because I imagined that sheikhs and elderly men would not be moved so quickly to engage in war, I did not expect these people to take up arms. From the way they were holding the rifles it was apparent that this was the first time they had ever taken up such a weapon. When we asked about the situation, they answered with angry expressions on their faces.
‘Are you not aware of what your kinsmen have done? Then what are you expecting?’ My husband responded: ‘Things will be as God wishes.’ Three more armed men appeared leading an unfortunate woman, she was blindfolded and her neck was tied with a rope on which they were pulling, as though she was a camel. Her clothes were torn and bloodied. The poor woman looked as if she was shaking with pain. Although we knew one of the three men pulling her along we did not talk to them. One of the men glanced at us saying: ‘The most dangerous spy is caught!’ They reached a point about 100 metres away from us when an exchange of fire nearby could be heard. They suddenly threw the woman down on the ground and shot her dead.
Bodies were scattered here and there, not all of them government supporters. We saw the bodies of nine dead government supporters and two SNM. We saw through the window women who had just learnt about the death of some relatives; [they were] stabbing three dead bodies with knives. We were afraid that these women would rush and kill us. Luckily, at this point this idea had not entered their heads.
On the night of Wednesday 1 June we stayed in our house discussing our way out of the situation. We felt the SNM had captured the northern part of Hargeisa and that the East-West would be the front line. We were convinced that we could not cross the frontline, which was north of us. We decided to go to my mother’s house in southern Hargeisa. We believed the people from my husband’s family were cut off from us by the frontline. I was six months pregnant. The oldest of my six children was a boy of six years, the youngest were my twin boys aged one. Two of my children could undertake a long march but it would prove difficult for the others so we needed people to help us carry the children.
On the Wednesday morning we saw one of our neighbours, a government supporter called Ahmed, leading three tanks to us. While they were passing the house he told them something about us. The tank directed its barrel towards us. Instinctively we rushed the children into the dining room on the other side of the house. We were just in time – the tank devastated two bedrooms and the sitting room with six heavy shots. Miraculously we were not harmed, although we were very frightened. They clearly thought that we were dead. After a few minutes they were distracted by heavy firing nearby, and the tank moved on.
We immediately set off to a neighbouring Isaq family. We were explaining to our neighbour what had happened when armed men knocked at the door. When the door was opened the men asked: ‘Who is the man who fired at us?’ They were told that nobody had fired anything. But they ordered all of us out of the house while firing into the house to terrify us. Seven of the armed men looted everything useful from the house, including the curtains. Both of our households decided to escape while we were still alive. We left all we had except for SSh20,000 [equivalent to US$50] which the looters had failed to find. We walked 3 km to reach my mother and displaced sister with her five children in the southern part of the city.
We felt some relief in the morning because the war was not so near, although government troops were moving on the roads near us. But in the evening we moved to another house to get away from the government’s artillery bombardment of all the houses and the resulting exchange of fire. We re-located to a house situated in the southern tip of Hargeisa.
Everybody was thinking about how to escape. All were convinced that anyone staying behind would be killed by the defeated troops of (Somali President) Siad Barre or by civilians whose relatives had been killed by SNM troops. On the fourth day of the war I met the unfortunate Asha Yusuf who told me the menfolk in her group, including her husband, had been slaughtered and that even the babes in arms had been checked to determine their sex; and four baby boys including her only son had been slaughtered. As she was recounting this story tears were streaming from her eyes. I cried too, as did the others who were with us.
Kadra Ali, a girl who was with us told us that she had witnessed something similar. She had been hiding in thick shrubs when a around 50–60 people were shot dead while trying to escape – two babies were left crying over their mothers’ dead bodies. Kadra could not tell us whether the babies had been eaten by animals or whether they had been taken by people. She said these troops remained there until dark dividing the looted wealth among themselves and checking the pockets of dead bodies for money.
I couldn’t get anyone to help me carry my children and without help we couldn’t make it. The families who had strong members had a better chance of escaping.
On the tenth day of the war we decided to make our fourth escape attempt, determined to join the settlements of the displaced populations located in the north of Hargeisa. When we were almost half way across, somewhere near the eastern side of Hargeisa, troops intercepted us and ordered us to sit down in a line. They watched us closely as if they had caught the highest commanders of the SNM. We were sure they would kill us all. After we had been sitting there for an hour and a half, a door of a house nearby opened. I looked at the person who had stepped outside and recognised him as a colonel called Hassan Wiif who was known to my husband. I called to him to help us and release us. We did not expect a positive response because of our experience during the past days. But the man did order our release. Despite the reports of his troops which identified us as SNM, the colonel ordered the release of all the people. Luckily for us this man did not have the poor tribal mentality that so many others had sunk to the level of.
Those people who were not carrying small children continued their attempt to escape. But we could do nothing but return to the house we had set out from that morning.
Day by day people were beginning to adapt to the awful situation. In the early days of the war large groups would try to escape after sunset – the only time of day when it was possible to move unnoticed. At other times you could be easily seen by the government troops, who would ambush people en route. On the day we decided to try to escape we got together with many families and planned to begin after midnight. It was six weeks after the war had started. At one o’clock in the morning we started out. We were not less than 300 people. A man who knew more about the route we would escape by was assigned to guide us. We walked in single file without making the least noise. Although heavily pregnant I carried my year-old twin boys, my mother carried the next youngest. Some people were reluctant to escape in a group with young children for fear that the children would cry out and alert attackers. All the way I prayed that my children would be able to keep silent. They did, and I wondered if the smallest ones had been ‘trained’ by such awful experiences that they had been through.ones had been ‘trained’ by such awful experiences that they had been through.ones had been ‘trained’ by such awful experiences that they had been through.ones had been ‘trained’ by such awful experiences that they had been through.
After four hours walking south west the guide told us that we had passed through the hostile area. We were so relieved and pleased. After another hour of walking we reached Gerebis, a village 30 km south west of Hargeisa. We rested for a few days and then continued our journey, still on foot, to the refugee camp in Harshin and later to Harta Sheik in Ethiopia.
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Tell Qansagabeyle, Kambuli and the rest of Afweeyne supporters here that Afweeyne was a cannibal who practised animal ritualistic practices rather than Islam. That was the point of this book. What do you expect of warlords trained by such Godless butcher like Afweeyne? I don't think any decent Somali Muslim will support Afweeyne unless they are tribalists to the core with little knowledge and practice of Islam like the above mentioned group. These guys above will protect and die for their tribal brethen even if they are despotic cruel bigots like Afweeyne. May Allah SWT reward all the Somali victims.
"At 8am we went here and there trying to get information and talking to neighbours who belonged to Barre’s tribe. But our neighbours would not greet us and looked on us with hostile eyes. Two passed by near us: one was a ma’alin, or teacher, at a Koranic school located near to our house, the other was a National Security Service office watchman. Both were armed with A-K 45 rifles.
Three more armed men appeared leading an unfortunate woman, she was blindfolded and her neck was tied with a rope on which they were pulling, as though she was a camel. Her clothes were torn and bloodied. The poor woman looked as if she was shaking with pain. Although we knew one of the three men pulling her along we did not talk to them. One of the men glanced at us saying: ‘The most dangerous spy is caught!’ They reached a point about 100 metres away from us when an exchange of fire nearby could be heard. They suddenly threw the woman down on the ground and shot her dead.
On the fourth day of the war I met the unfortunate Asha Yusuf who told me the menfolk in her group, including her husband, had been slaughtered and that even the babes in arms had been checked to determine their sex; and four baby boys including her only son had been slaughtered.
Kadra Ali, a girl who was with us told us that she had witnessed something similar. She had been hiding in thick shrubs when a around 50–60 people were shot dead while trying to escape – two babies were left crying over their mothers’ dead bodies. Kadra could not tell us whether the babies had been eaten by animals or whether they had been taken by people. She said these troops remained there until dark dividing the looted wealth among themselves and checking the pockets of dead bodies for money."
"At 8am we went here and there trying to get information and talking to neighbours who belonged to Barre’s tribe. But our neighbours would not greet us and looked on us with hostile eyes. Two passed by near us: one was a ma’alin, or teacher, at a Koranic school located near to our house, the other was a National Security Service office watchman. Both were armed with A-K 45 rifles.
Three more armed men appeared leading an unfortunate woman, she was blindfolded and her neck was tied with a rope on which they were pulling, as though she was a camel. Her clothes were torn and bloodied. The poor woman looked as if she was shaking with pain. Although we knew one of the three men pulling her along we did not talk to them. One of the men glanced at us saying: ‘The most dangerous spy is caught!’ They reached a point about 100 metres away from us when an exchange of fire nearby could be heard. They suddenly threw the woman down on the ground and shot her dead.
On the fourth day of the war I met the unfortunate Asha Yusuf who told me the menfolk in her group, including her husband, had been slaughtered and that even the babes in arms had been checked to determine their sex; and four baby boys including her only son had been slaughtered.
Kadra Ali, a girl who was with us told us that she had witnessed something similar. She had been hiding in thick shrubs when a around 50–60 people were shot dead while trying to escape – two babies were left crying over their mothers’ dead bodies. Kadra could not tell us whether the babies had been eaten by animals or whether they had been taken by people. She said these troops remained there until dark dividing the looted wealth among themselves and checking the pockets of dead bodies for money."
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Law26 quote " I don't think any decent Somali Muslim will support Afweeyne unless they are tribalists to the core with little knowledge and practice of Islam like the above mentioned group.
Hayay!!!! Is this the way you brush people with your anger? Sorry brother, you failed walaahay, no matter how many pages of insult you write about me I wont change my stand
I can't buy your suggestion that Siyad was responsible for Galol and DD's choice of Atheism!
Sorry I can't...
Speaking of tribalist to the core... Bring one single post that I bashed or said nasty thing about a Somali tribe...? Again you will fail..... Why don't you spill out what is bothering you...
Hayay!!!! Is this the way you brush people with your anger? Sorry brother, you failed walaahay, no matter how many pages of insult you write about me I wont change my stand


Speaking of tribalist to the core... Bring one single post that I bashed or said nasty thing about a Somali tribe...? Again you will fail..... Why don't you spill out what is bothering you...
Kambuli
Your statement that no Daarood person can criticize and label Afweeyne a butcher and a bigot who practices savage Pagan tribalistic rituals begs to include you in that list above. Here is what you wrote in defence of Afweeyne while miserably attempting to garner a general Daarood tribal support for him;
"[quote="kambuli"] Any body who says this is not true Daarood!"
Good luck supporting your hero, while slandering his victims. At least Qansagabeyle aka Mad-Dog has no problem supporting his idol in the open, while you act like a venemous snake hiding in the grass.
My intention is not to turn this thread into preaching your mob so you can understand the real Afweeyne. You are blinded by tribal bigotry. Only Allah SWT can help you guys.
Your statement that no Daarood person can criticize and label Afweeyne a butcher and a bigot who practices savage Pagan tribalistic rituals begs to include you in that list above. Here is what you wrote in defence of Afweeyne while miserably attempting to garner a general Daarood tribal support for him;
"[quote="kambuli"] Any body who says this is not true Daarood!"
Good luck supporting your hero, while slandering his victims. At least Qansagabeyle aka Mad-Dog has no problem supporting his idol in the open, while you act like a venemous snake hiding in the grass.
My intention is not to turn this thread into preaching your mob so you can understand the real Afweeyne. You are blinded by tribal bigotry. Only Allah SWT can help you guys.
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Alla Hayaay!!!!
Khatar khatar
Law26 is one of the moderators.
That is the sad part... He can change people's posts....
Do you really have to stoop so low to the extent you change someone's posts to prove your lies
Acuudu Bilaah....
You changed my post and everyone in this forum who read it knows what you did to my post..... It was like this....and it was a mocking question I asked you;;;
"So anybody who don't buy your story is Daarood" and look how you changed.... Acuudu Bilaah... I should not even deal with you... You are very sick walaahay...
Khatar khatar



Do you really have to stoop so low to the extent you change someone's posts to prove your lies

You changed my post and everyone in this forum who read it knows what you did to my post..... It was like this....and it was a mocking question I asked you;;;
"So anybody who don't buy your story is Daarood" and look how you changed.... Acuudu Bilaah... I should not even deal with you... You are very sick walaahay...
[quote="kambuli"]Alla Hayaay!!!!
Khatar khatar
Law26 is one of the moderators.
That is the sad part... He can change people's posts....
Do you really have to stoop so low to the extent you change someone's posts to prove your lies
Acuudu Bilaah....
You changed my post and everyone in this forum who read it knows what you did to my post..... It was like this....and it was a mocking question I asked you;;;
"So anybody who don't buy your story is Daarood" and look how you changed.... Acuudu Bilaah... I should not even deal with you... You are very sick walaahay...[/quote]
Kambuli
I asked you the same remark on an earlier post which you failed to give me an adequate response and now, are you accusing me that I'm a moderator on this site and edited your post? Before you accuse me of being the Admin/webmaster of this site, you need to get an urgent help with your paranoi. I have no time to moderate this or any other site. Don't you think Galool picked up that same point when he accused you of being a chameleon. On one hand, you sing for Somali unity, and on the other, you sing guulwadoo Afweeyne. Miskiin.
Here is the same question I posed to you 4 days ago.
http://www.somalinet.com/forum/viewtopi ... c&start=45
Khatar khatar



Do you really have to stoop so low to the extent you change someone's posts to prove your lies

You changed my post and everyone in this forum who read it knows what you did to my post..... It was like this....and it was a mocking question I asked you;;;
"So anybody who don't buy your story is Daarood" and look how you changed.... Acuudu Bilaah... I should not even deal with you... You are very sick walaahay...[/quote]
Kambuli
I asked you the same remark on an earlier post which you failed to give me an adequate response and now, are you accusing me that I'm a moderator on this site and edited your post? Before you accuse me of being the Admin/webmaster of this site, you need to get an urgent help with your paranoi. I have no time to moderate this or any other site. Don't you think Galool picked up that same point when he accused you of being a chameleon. On one hand, you sing for Somali unity, and on the other, you sing guulwadoo Afweeyne. Miskiin.
Here is the same question I posed to you 4 days ago.
http://www.somalinet.com/forum/viewtopi ... c&start=45


You suggested that debate Siyad Barre may indirectly responsible for Somali athiest without given a concrete evidence , even tho Dhuuso whom You claim one of the victims of Siyad Barre Marxism disagreed with You and went beyond that to clarified to You he wasn't in Somalia during the Hey days of Siyad Barre . the point is Kambuli and others like me were Only refuting the accuracy of your argument , We were NOT diffending the general and his

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so bashing a man whos been dead for the past 15 and blaming him for all thats wrong with somalia is the way to go
you accuse anyone who tells you the truth for being biased towards the late presidents for tribal reasons yet at the same time you only hate him because of that same reason
you claim to be muslim yet at the same time you're calling another practicing muslim (who is now with his maker) a "cannibal" despite the fact that the holy QURAN forbids us to badmouth another dead muslim no matter how much you might have hated him
ummada adigoo kalaa ugu xun sababtoo ah shaati aadan laheeyn baad ku daba gambataa cuqdadaan qabiil oo kugu jirtana banaanka lamaad imaan kartid marka diinta alle baad ka been abuurada
koley jaahil baad tahoo dhanka alle uma soo jeedide hadaad xal wax iga faa'iidi karto tan iga qaado. intaad qof dhintay iyo camalkiisa aad ku dambaabi laheeyd taada aaqiro ushaqeeyso oo salaatul jimcaha beri ah ka bilaaw
mise waxeey kula tahay inuu ALLE subxaana watacalaa r.i.p. maj. gen. pres. M.S. Barre oo keliya un uu la xisaabtami doono 
so bashing a man whos been dead for the past 15 and blaming him for all thats wrong with somalia is the way to go

you accuse anyone who tells you the truth for being biased towards the late presidents for tribal reasons yet at the same time you only hate him because of that same reason

you claim to be muslim yet at the same time you're calling another practicing muslim (who is now with his maker) a "cannibal" despite the fact that the holy QURAN forbids us to badmouth another dead muslim no matter how much you might have hated him

ummada adigoo kalaa ugu xun sababtoo ah shaati aadan laheeyn baad ku daba gambataa cuqdadaan qabiil oo kugu jirtana banaanka lamaad imaan kartid marka diinta alle baad ka been abuurada

koley jaahil baad tahoo dhanka alle uma soo jeedide hadaad xal wax iga faa'iidi karto tan iga qaado. intaad qof dhintay iyo camalkiisa aad ku dambaabi laheeyd taada aaqiro ushaqeeyso oo salaatul jimcaha beri ah ka bilaaw


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﴿أَلاَّ تَزÙÂر٠وَزÙÂرَةٌ وÙÂزْرَ Ø£ÙÂخْرَى ï´¾
(That no burdened person shall bear the burden of another.) Meaning, every soul shall carry its own injustices, whether disbelief or sin, and none else shall carry its burden of sin, as Allah states
﴿وَإÙÂن تَدْع٠مÙÂثْقَلَةٌ Ø¥ÙÂلَى ØÂÙÂمْلÙÂهَا لاَ يÙÂØÂْمَلْ مÙÂنْه٠شَىْءٌ وَلَوْ كَانَ ذَا قÙÂرْبَى﴾
(And if one heavily laden calls another to (bear) his load, nothing of it will be lifted even though he be near of kin.)(35:18 ) Allah said,
﴿وَأَن لَّيْسَ لÙÂلإÙÂنسَـن٠إÙÂلاَّ مَا سَعَى ï´¾
(And that man can have nothing but what he does.) So just as no soul shall carry the burden of any other, the soul shall only benefit from the good that one earns for himself. As for the Hadith recorded by Muslim in the Sahih, that Abu Hurayrah said that the Messenger of Allah said,
«إÙÂذَا مَاتَ الْإÙÂنْسَان٠انْقَطَعَ عَمَلÙÂه٠إÙÂلَّا مÙÂنْ ثَلَاثÙÂ: مÙÂنْ وَلَد٠صَالÙÂØÂ٠يَدْعÙÂو لَهÙÂ، أَوْ صَدَقَة٠جَارÙÂيَة٠مÙÂنْ بَعْدÙÂهÙÂ، أَوْ عÙÂلْم٠يÙÂنْتَÙÂَع٠بÙÂه»
(When a person dies, his deeds will cease except in three cases: from a righteous son who invokes Allah for him, or an ongoing charity after his death, or knowledge that people benefit from.) These three things are, in reality, a result of one's own deeds, efforts and actions. For example, a Hadith states,
«إÙÂنَّ أَطْيَبَ مَا أَكَلَ الرَّجÙÂل٠مÙÂنْ كَسْبÙÂهÙÂ، وَإÙÂنَّ وَلَدَه٠مÙÂنْ كَسْبÙÂه»
(Verily, the best type of provision that one consumes is from what he himself has earned, and one's offspring are among what he has earned.) The ongoing charity that one leaves behind, like an endowment, for example, are among the traces of his own actions and deeds.
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The man is dead if he was evil Allah will account him and he is experiencing cadabul Qabr if not Allahu ya3lam No use giving him our salats, siyaam, ect ect no one is worth it!
Fe Aman Ellah
(That no burdened person shall bear the burden of another.) Meaning, every soul shall carry its own injustices, whether disbelief or sin, and none else shall carry its burden of sin, as Allah states
﴿وَإÙÂن تَدْع٠مÙÂثْقَلَةٌ Ø¥ÙÂلَى ØÂÙÂمْلÙÂهَا لاَ يÙÂØÂْمَلْ مÙÂنْه٠شَىْءٌ وَلَوْ كَانَ ذَا قÙÂرْبَى﴾
(And if one heavily laden calls another to (bear) his load, nothing of it will be lifted even though he be near of kin.)(35:18 ) Allah said,
﴿وَأَن لَّيْسَ لÙÂلإÙÂنسَـن٠إÙÂلاَّ مَا سَعَى ï´¾
(And that man can have nothing but what he does.) So just as no soul shall carry the burden of any other, the soul shall only benefit from the good that one earns for himself. As for the Hadith recorded by Muslim in the Sahih, that Abu Hurayrah said that the Messenger of Allah said,
«إÙÂذَا مَاتَ الْإÙÂنْسَان٠انْقَطَعَ عَمَلÙÂه٠إÙÂلَّا مÙÂنْ ثَلَاثÙÂ: مÙÂنْ وَلَد٠صَالÙÂØÂ٠يَدْعÙÂو لَهÙÂ، أَوْ صَدَقَة٠جَارÙÂيَة٠مÙÂنْ بَعْدÙÂهÙÂ، أَوْ عÙÂلْم٠يÙÂنْتَÙÂَع٠بÙÂه»
(When a person dies, his deeds will cease except in three cases: from a righteous son who invokes Allah for him, or an ongoing charity after his death, or knowledge that people benefit from.) These three things are, in reality, a result of one's own deeds, efforts and actions. For example, a Hadith states,
«إÙÂنَّ أَطْيَبَ مَا أَكَلَ الرَّجÙÂل٠مÙÂنْ كَسْبÙÂهÙÂ، وَإÙÂنَّ وَلَدَه٠مÙÂنْ كَسْبÙÂه»
(Verily, the best type of provision that one consumes is from what he himself has earned, and one's offspring are among what he has earned.) The ongoing charity that one leaves behind, like an endowment, for example, are among the traces of his own actions and deeds.
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The man is dead if he was evil Allah will account him and he is experiencing cadabul Qabr if not Allahu ya3lam No use giving him our salats, siyaam, ect ect no one is worth it!
Fe Aman Ellah
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Law,
All I can say is you are sick.. and I use this word very rarely.
I do not care whether you are the owner, the moderator or their friend. All I know is you edited my post and you changed it to backup your lies. Because I challenged you to bring a proof that I have ever wrote tribal bashing/ hate stuff. Acuudu Bilaah. Walaahay oo bilaahay you are a sick person.
Not only that... What is irritating is how you are hiding behind Islam...If you are capable of all these lies... how can you, how can you talk about muslims and Islam.diin/ Iimaan?. Acuudu Bilaah..
You are a very, very sick person... You know one thing it is manly to admit a mistake... simply instead of fabricating lies and calling me names you could have said.. " Sorry Kambuli, I was wrong, Siyad Barre was not responsible for Galol and DD's choice of Atheism...When you could not prove your case you choose to attack me..Acuudu Bilaah.
Shame on you.... Indho adakaa.. Subxaana Allaah..
All I can say is you are sick.. and I use this word very rarely.
I do not care whether you are the owner, the moderator or their friend. All I know is you edited my post and you changed it to backup your lies. Because I challenged you to bring a proof that I have ever wrote tribal bashing/ hate stuff. Acuudu Bilaah. Walaahay oo bilaahay you are a sick person.
Not only that... What is irritating is how you are hiding behind Islam...If you are capable of all these lies... how can you, how can you talk about muslims and Islam.diin/ Iimaan?. Acuudu Bilaah..
You are a very, very sick person... You know one thing it is manly to admit a mistake... simply instead of fabricating lies and calling me names you could have said.. " Sorry Kambuli, I was wrong, Siyad Barre was not responsible for Galol and DD's choice of Atheism...When you could not prove your case you choose to attack me..Acuudu Bilaah.
Shame on you.... Indho adakaa.. Subxaana Allaah..
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