Sunni muslims in Iran
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Sunni muslims in Iran
There isn't one Sunna masjid in Teheran, but there are forty churches and a cemetery for baha'is.
Choosing names like Umar, A'ishah, Hafsah, Abu Bakr, Zubair etc are forbidden in Iran.
There is no Sunni director in any of the government authorities, ministries, embassies, or local and provincial governments, hospitals or principalities; not even in the lowest government posts anywhere in Iran.
Here are some quotes from their famous books:
"The wealth, the property and everything which belongs to a Sunni is actually yours (is legal for you)" (Tahzib-ul Ahkam, Vol. 2 Kitabul Makasib, p. 116, published in Iran)
"Although Allah, the Exalted, has not created a creature worse than a dog, yet a Nasbi (ie. A Sunni) is worse than even a dog." (Haqqul Yakeen (Persian) Vol 2, P. 516)
All the people rejected Islam after the death of the Prophet except three. I said "And who are these?" He said, "Al Miqudad ibn Awsad, Abu Dharr Al Ghifari and Salman the Persian. Heavenly mercy be on them all." (Osul Al Kafi; p: 655.)
"When our kaim (12 Imam) Shall come back, he will bring Aisha (rd) to life so as to torment her to avenge Fatimah (rd)" (Haqul Yagheen (The acetained Truth). In persian: p 139.)
"By listening to the voice of a person, the Imams can tell if the person was destined to go to hell or to heaven; they would thus answer his questions accordingly" (Usool al Kafi, p. 185)
"The Imams know when they will die, and they do not die except by their own choice" (Ibid, p: 258.)
"No one compiled the Qur'an completely except the Imams, and they encompass all of its knowledge' (Ibid, p. 228)
Are these people really our brothers and do they have same religion than us?
Choosing names like Umar, A'ishah, Hafsah, Abu Bakr, Zubair etc are forbidden in Iran.
There is no Sunni director in any of the government authorities, ministries, embassies, or local and provincial governments, hospitals or principalities; not even in the lowest government posts anywhere in Iran.
Here are some quotes from their famous books:
"The wealth, the property and everything which belongs to a Sunni is actually yours (is legal for you)" (Tahzib-ul Ahkam, Vol. 2 Kitabul Makasib, p. 116, published in Iran)
"Although Allah, the Exalted, has not created a creature worse than a dog, yet a Nasbi (ie. A Sunni) is worse than even a dog." (Haqqul Yakeen (Persian) Vol 2, P. 516)
All the people rejected Islam after the death of the Prophet except three. I said "And who are these?" He said, "Al Miqudad ibn Awsad, Abu Dharr Al Ghifari and Salman the Persian. Heavenly mercy be on them all." (Osul Al Kafi; p: 655.)
"When our kaim (12 Imam) Shall come back, he will bring Aisha (rd) to life so as to torment her to avenge Fatimah (rd)" (Haqul Yagheen (The acetained Truth). In persian: p 139.)
"By listening to the voice of a person, the Imams can tell if the person was destined to go to hell or to heaven; they would thus answer his questions accordingly" (Usool al Kafi, p. 185)
"The Imams know when they will die, and they do not die except by their own choice" (Ibid, p: 258.)
"No one compiled the Qur'an completely except the Imams, and they encompass all of its knowledge' (Ibid, p. 228)
Are these people really our brothers and do they have same religion than us?
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Assalamu 'Alaikum,
Subhan'Allah, and ain't it funny how they state shiasm is the "real sunnah"?
If you were to go up to shia and tell him/her "No, you are wrong! Shaism is not the real sunnah because you believe in such-and-such", they will actually deny it and say "no, that's not true...we don't believe in such a thing" and they might even accuse you of being a liar! It's like hello, this is what the books you hold of value, the books you believe in and follow state and you're calling me a liar?
May Allah (SWT) guide us all to the straight path
Here is a good lecture to listen to http://english.islamway.com/bindex.php? ... holar_id=4
Subhan'Allah, and ain't it funny how they state shiasm is the "real sunnah"?
If you were to go up to shia and tell him/her "No, you are wrong! Shaism is not the real sunnah because you believe in such-and-such", they will actually deny it and say "no, that's not true...we don't believe in such a thing" and they might even accuse you of being a liar! It's like hello, this is what the books you hold of value, the books you believe in and follow state and you're calling me a liar?
May Allah (SWT) guide us all to the straight path
Here is a good lecture to listen to http://english.islamway.com/bindex.php? ... holar_id=4
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[quote]"If you were to go up to shia and tell him/her "No, you are wrong! Shaism is not the real sunnah because you believe in such-and-such", they will actually deny it and say "no, that's not true...we don't believe in such a thing"[/quote]
It's because one of their faith's doctrine is lieing (taqiyah). Normal muslims can use it when their life is in danger, but these people can use it any situation. Here are some quotes from their books about it:
"Nine tenths of religion is taqiyyah (dissimulation), hence one who does not dissimulate has no religion." (Al-Kafi vol.9 p.110)
"Mix with them(i.e. non-shia) externally but oppose them internally." (Al-Kafi vol.9 p.116)
Their hatred towards people of sunna is so deep. May Allah (swt) guide them to the right path, aamiin.
It's because one of their faith's doctrine is lieing (taqiyah). Normal muslims can use it when their life is in danger, but these people can use it any situation. Here are some quotes from their books about it:
"Nine tenths of religion is taqiyyah (dissimulation), hence one who does not dissimulate has no religion." (Al-Kafi vol.9 p.110)
"Mix with them(i.e. non-shia) externally but oppose them internally." (Al-Kafi vol.9 p.116)
Their hatred towards people of sunna is so deep. May Allah (swt) guide them to the right path, aamiin.
i find it strange that from all the things that are taking place in the world today, mainly in the muslim world; we still find time to point the fingure at each other.
no matter what you say about iran, i thing they have the guts and balls of all the suni population combined. they have heart and at least believe in everthing they say. despite what you wrote above they still donated money to palestinian people without blinking, which is more than can be said aboput those goat focking saudi c'unts.
no matter what you say about iran, i thing they have the guts and balls of all the suni population combined. they have heart and at least believe in everthing they say. despite what you wrote above they still donated money to palestinian people without blinking, which is more than can be said aboput those goat focking saudi c'unts.
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Yeah they promised to donate $50million (btw Saudis promised $92million) but that doesn't make any of them good people.
Yeah that's true also that they have guts against USA, but so did many South America's countries, Japan etc. If someone fights America I wish they can give some serious blows to them. But that's it, it doesn't make me attached to them.
If shia's get too powerfulin the world it would be more dangerous to Sunni people than this american hegemony, as seen in Iraq for example.
Yeah that's true also that they have guts against USA, but so did many South America's countries, Japan etc. If someone fights America I wish they can give some serious blows to them. But that's it, it doesn't make me attached to them.
If shia's get too powerfulin the world it would be more dangerous to Sunni people than this american hegemony, as seen in Iraq for example.
Biko
I could be wrong, but in my humble opinion if America wants to invade Iran, it has to change the views of most of the Muslims about how they view about Iran. The invassion in Iraq in 91, and the latest one was achieved by the support of Muslim Sunni countries. I have said this many times that Iran's obssession to arm itself with nuclear weapons has nothing to do with Israel, but due on what is happening in Iraq now. They are more scared of the Sunni countries whom invaded in 1980 with the support of the Americans through Iraq.
The Iranian Hamas issue is only part of that show. Why?Because this is a historical divission among Muslims manipulated by America and Israel. Brother Salahudiin mentioned Iraq---I don't know if Sadam Hussein's regime could ever be considered as Sunni rule. The American campaign is in full swing, and they are using the same old tactic of divide and rule.
Why now attack Iran? Why the obssession of Iran with nuclear power? Can we Muslims reach each other and seek support among ourselves and leave Allah to judge who is on the right path and who is not? Or, we rather self-destruct through American and Israeli design? I believe that Muslim youths should overcome this debilitating and self destructing issue and ignore our schools of thought, whether we follow shia or sunni and unite.
I could be wrong, but in my humble opinion if America wants to invade Iran, it has to change the views of most of the Muslims about how they view about Iran. The invassion in Iraq in 91, and the latest one was achieved by the support of Muslim Sunni countries. I have said this many times that Iran's obssession to arm itself with nuclear weapons has nothing to do with Israel, but due on what is happening in Iraq now. They are more scared of the Sunni countries whom invaded in 1980 with the support of the Americans through Iraq.
The Iranian Hamas issue is only part of that show. Why?Because this is a historical divission among Muslims manipulated by America and Israel. Brother Salahudiin mentioned Iraq---I don't know if Sadam Hussein's regime could ever be considered as Sunni rule. The American campaign is in full swing, and they are using the same old tactic of divide and rule.
Why now attack Iran? Why the obssession of Iran with nuclear power? Can we Muslims reach each other and seek support among ourselves and leave Allah to judge who is on the right path and who is not? Or, we rather self-destruct through American and Israeli design? I believe that Muslim youths should overcome this debilitating and self destructing issue and ignore our schools of thought, whether we follow shia or sunni and unite.
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Re: Sunni muslims in Iran
[quote="Salahuddiin
"When our kaim (12 Imam) Shall come back, he will bring Aisha (rd) to life so as to torment her to avenge Fatimah (rd)" (Haqul Yagheen (The acetained Truth). In persian: p 139.)
[quote]
but from what i have seen sunnis share the same hate for them too, so its a 2 way thing..SubhanAllah may Allah guide the ummah...
"When our kaim (12 Imam) Shall come back, he will bring Aisha (rd) to life so as to torment her to avenge Fatimah (rd)" (Haqul Yagheen (The acetained Truth). In persian: p 139.)
[quote]
[quote="Salahuddiin"]
If shia's get too powerfulin the world it would be more dangerous to Sunni people than this american hegemony, as seen in Iraq for example.[/quote]
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brother, easy with the hateful propaganda.
they aint any more dangerouse than all those self-declared protectors of islam and Allah's spokesmen. all those demented sunni wadaads who preach hate under the baner of islam, and promote twisted blind loyalty. all those so-called jihadist who seem to have forgot about the importance of intenntion and sincery in islam.
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mowhawk
"Why now attack Iran? Why the obssession of Iran with nuclear power? Can we Muslims reach each other and seek support among ourselves and leave Allah to judge who is on the right path and who is not? Or, we rather self-destruct through American and Israeli design? I believe that Muslim youths should overcome this debilitating and self destructing issue and ignore our schools of thought, whether we follow shia or sunni and unite".
thats exactly what am talking about bro. today is shia tomorow its salafi, wahabi and any other excuse a blood tursty rag head (yes i said it) can use to cause division among people who supose to have been brothers in faith. i mean who exactly is the enemy cos as far as am concerned the lines are geting blured. is it america and the infidel or shias? maybe its wahabis.
fock it! i'll keep it real and say its faqash and hawiyee.
If shia's get too powerfulin the world it would be more dangerous to Sunni people than this american hegemony, as seen in Iraq for example.[/quote]
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brother, easy with the hateful propaganda.
they aint any more dangerouse than all those self-declared protectors of islam and Allah's spokesmen. all those demented sunni wadaads who preach hate under the baner of islam, and promote twisted blind loyalty. all those so-called jihadist who seem to have forgot about the importance of intenntion and sincery in islam.
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mowhawk
"Why now attack Iran? Why the obssession of Iran with nuclear power? Can we Muslims reach each other and seek support among ourselves and leave Allah to judge who is on the right path and who is not? Or, we rather self-destruct through American and Israeli design? I believe that Muslim youths should overcome this debilitating and self destructing issue and ignore our schools of thought, whether we follow shia or sunni and unite".
thats exactly what am talking about bro. today is shia tomorow its salafi, wahabi and any other excuse a blood tursty rag head (yes i said it) can use to cause division among people who supose to have been brothers in faith. i mean who exactly is the enemy cos as far as am concerned the lines are geting blured. is it america and the infidel or shias? maybe its wahabis.
fock it! i'll keep it real and say its faqash and hawiyee.
Last edited by biko on Fri Apr 28, 2006 7:08 am, edited 1 time in total.
Mohawk and Biko
Did you guys just realize those parrots have been ordered to demonize Iran by their Saudi masters? Have a peek about how JB appreciates X,Playa, who is a well known hater of Islam, and a person who has vilified many times Allah SWT and our prophet pbuh on those pages, just so JB can score a point against the Shias on behalf of his Saudi masters. Unlike Shia’s, X.Playa is a person who is an Allah SWT and our prophet pbuh hater, but also his benolavent guy, JB has failed to provide evidence from his deceit and lies when I challenged his accusations on his claims in that kaafir lover post, and see it below. As you said, this Iranian campaign is in full swing, but it is fair to say that is so with the help of the foot soldiers wahabi/salafi slaves to the Saudis like JB for the Saudis. This is pure Saudi propoganda.
[quote JB]
“x.playa thanks for sharing the clip. Wallahi it amazes me to see sunnis being deceived by shia propaganda. The shia hate ahlus sunnah more than they hate the kufaar, do you know that there is not a single sunni masjid in Tehran! The hypocrisy is that they have churches and synagogues in Tehran while a million ahlu sunnah are denied a place to worship in Tehran. They have fooled many sunnis with their lies. One of the biggest myths that the Iranian revolution propagated and the shia have convinced sunnis into accepting as fact is that arabs or Suadis led to the downfall of the ottoman empire. The truth of the matter is that the shia safavid opposed the ottoman khalifate and warred with them for a few hundred years! The king of Austria remarked that if it was not for the shia safavids all of Europe would be reading the Quran. I am not defending Arab nationalism or the Saudis, by accepting their lies as fact we free them from their crimes against ahlu sunnah. let us not forget that every single tragedy to befall Ahlus sunnah originates at the hands of the shia. They hate us and hate the prophet's (SAW) companions even more. May Allah SWT guide themâ€Â
http://www.somalinet.com/forum/viewtopi ... ht=#732089
[quote Law26]
JB
Who was Lawrence of Arabia and why was he fighting along the side of king Abdiasiz of Saudi Arabia on behalf of the British Crown against the Othmani rule? Is this a wahabi/salafi revissionist of Isamic history? It was all about Arab nationalism and mate is this a late April's fool?â€Â
http://www.somalinet.com/forum/viewtopi ... ht=#745879
Below. This is funny, coming from a guy who expects women to be evil, and that is why they should be locked---not allowed to drive like his lord, Bin Baz.
[quote="JB"] try this pick up line at your own peril; baby I would love to feel your belly button from the inside
[/quote]
http://somalinet.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=55550
Whose bellybutton would you feel? Is it a young Asian she-male in the Phillipines or Thailand, or a Saudi kid? Saudis regard black women to have no awra, and accordingly to Saudi rules and laws set up by Bin Baz and co, it is legislated that Saudi black women like JB's family not to be obliged to wear niqaab in Saudi Arabia. Niqqab is only fard for Arab light-skinned Saudi women. Like JB, can you imagine how many ten’s of thousands of Saudi males head to Manila or Bangkok to “feel†whores “belly buttonâ€Â, each week of the year? Maybe, this Somali guy JB has been tampered with by Saudi men like most Saudi kids as a little boys, and wants to emulate Saudi men’s culture to screw a lot. Mohawk and Biko, let me tell you mate, these damn male Somalis have their orders from their wahabi Imam’s sponsored by Saudi money. They should broadcast from Fox studios to order Muslims to accept and support the U.S in their plan to attack Iran. S.crew them.
Did you guys just realize those parrots have been ordered to demonize Iran by their Saudi masters? Have a peek about how JB appreciates X,Playa, who is a well known hater of Islam, and a person who has vilified many times Allah SWT and our prophet pbuh on those pages, just so JB can score a point against the Shias on behalf of his Saudi masters. Unlike Shia’s, X.Playa is a person who is an Allah SWT and our prophet pbuh hater, but also his benolavent guy, JB has failed to provide evidence from his deceit and lies when I challenged his accusations on his claims in that kaafir lover post, and see it below. As you said, this Iranian campaign is in full swing, but it is fair to say that is so with the help of the foot soldiers wahabi/salafi slaves to the Saudis like JB for the Saudis. This is pure Saudi propoganda.
[quote JB]
“x.playa thanks for sharing the clip. Wallahi it amazes me to see sunnis being deceived by shia propaganda. The shia hate ahlus sunnah more than they hate the kufaar, do you know that there is not a single sunni masjid in Tehran! The hypocrisy is that they have churches and synagogues in Tehran while a million ahlu sunnah are denied a place to worship in Tehran. They have fooled many sunnis with their lies. One of the biggest myths that the Iranian revolution propagated and the shia have convinced sunnis into accepting as fact is that arabs or Suadis led to the downfall of the ottoman empire. The truth of the matter is that the shia safavid opposed the ottoman khalifate and warred with them for a few hundred years! The king of Austria remarked that if it was not for the shia safavids all of Europe would be reading the Quran. I am not defending Arab nationalism or the Saudis, by accepting their lies as fact we free them from their crimes against ahlu sunnah. let us not forget that every single tragedy to befall Ahlus sunnah originates at the hands of the shia. They hate us and hate the prophet's (SAW) companions even more. May Allah SWT guide themâ€Â
http://www.somalinet.com/forum/viewtopi ... ht=#732089
[quote Law26]
JB
Who was Lawrence of Arabia and why was he fighting along the side of king Abdiasiz of Saudi Arabia on behalf of the British Crown against the Othmani rule? Is this a wahabi/salafi revissionist of Isamic history? It was all about Arab nationalism and mate is this a late April's fool?â€Â
http://www.somalinet.com/forum/viewtopi ... ht=#745879
Below. This is funny, coming from a guy who expects women to be evil, and that is why they should be locked---not allowed to drive like his lord, Bin Baz.
[quote="JB"] try this pick up line at your own peril; baby I would love to feel your belly button from the inside
http://somalinet.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=55550
Whose bellybutton would you feel? Is it a young Asian she-male in the Phillipines or Thailand, or a Saudi kid? Saudis regard black women to have no awra, and accordingly to Saudi rules and laws set up by Bin Baz and co, it is legislated that Saudi black women like JB's family not to be obliged to wear niqaab in Saudi Arabia. Niqqab is only fard for Arab light-skinned Saudi women. Like JB, can you imagine how many ten’s of thousands of Saudi males head to Manila or Bangkok to “feel†whores “belly buttonâ€Â, each week of the year? Maybe, this Somali guy JB has been tampered with by Saudi men like most Saudi kids as a little boys, and wants to emulate Saudi men’s culture to screw a lot. Mohawk and Biko, let me tell you mate, these damn male Somalis have their orders from their wahabi Imam’s sponsored by Saudi money. They should broadcast from Fox studios to order Muslims to accept and support the U.S in their plan to attack Iran. S.crew them.
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I don't mean to spoil this Saudi bashing topic. I disagree Iran to have nucke. I disagree because they have that deep persian hate toward Arab neighbors and nothing to do with Religion or Sunnism or Shiasim. It's greed and power motivated hate. For those who care about history; history plays huge part of it.
Last edited by The rebel on Thu Apr 27, 2006 8:14 am, edited 2 times in total.
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