Ayaan Hersi portrait as a HERO by BBC London

Homer Simpso · Post by **Homer Simpso** » Wed May 17, 2006 4:57 am

I have listen to the BBC lastnight as a friend of mine called me and asked me to listen what they are saying about Ayaan Hersi, the somali kufaar!!!... the bbc talked about the success of Ayaan without mentioning how she's reached that success.. this b!tch said our Prophet pbu is a tyrant, our religion a reer baadiyo religion- she said muslims are the most unfair, ignorant, stupid idiots in the world... BBC says she is a hero... what is wrong with BBC?

The rebel · Post by **The rebel** » Wed May 17, 2006 5:18 am

"she said muslims are the most unfair, ignorant, stupid idiots in the world..."

Isn't this true? I agree with her in this. No use to burry our heads into the sand. We are savage and use and abuse Islam. If I hate anything is the sheep mentality. The brain is great thing to waste.

Homer Simpso · Post by **Homer Simpso** » Wed May 17, 2006 5:44 am

Rebel.. yeyna kaa hoos bixin brother.. when says Muslims, she is not referring to savage muslims like those who order'd the execution of the poor somali guy.. she is referring to Islam itself, she is saying its the islam religion that have savaged these people, she is saying, its Allah's word that made them muslims stupid savages that have no mercy whatsoever.... so, are you saying that our Allah has told in his Qaran that we should be savages?

The rebel · Post by **The rebel** » Wed May 17, 2006 6:36 am

Of course not Allah or Quran. If we follow Quran we would be best humanbeen. But brother people make their own version of Allh's words. Like Allah speaks codes and only few people can understand those hidden codes. Let us free Islam from those then let us judge Ayan or others. She never seen from her family or her surounding the correct Islam. She saw ignorent savage men abuse women in the name of Allah. Show me best example of Islam so we could show her in today's society? I'm ashamed to even comndom her because there are worse than her and they carry titles such a Sheikhs and Scholers.

Homer Simpso · Post by **Homer Simpso** » Wed May 17, 2006 7:32 am

Rebel.. there are some sheikhs and Scholars that are on the right path my friend... not all of them are wrong!!!...
the questions to you rightnow is, what is Islam to you?.. I have a feeling that you are a progressive muslim?.. are you?...

The rebel · Post by **The rebel** » Wed May 17, 2006 8:47 am

[quote]Rebel.. there are some sheikhs and Scholars that are on the right path my friend... not all of them are wrong!!!... [/quote]

That says religion isa personal relationship between oneand His creator. If they are in the right path, good for them. I don't care how much they know and how many prays they do. That is between them and God. But they need to learn how to respect others who disagree with them and majority of them need stop double standard and hypocrities. No no they need to go back back to kindengarders and learn respect first before they pass judgments on others Razz

to answer your quastion, Islam to me is way of life...From when I wake up untill I sleep. It's personal. Islam to me isn't the tile you carry or the dress you wear. Give me respect i give you more than respect, other than that they have no shit on me. the only way I could respect others is if they respect me and leave me and my affairs with God. God is inside me not external thing to me.

Do I need wastah? Let us ask good Galol's opinion Very Happy

Post by **Basra-** » Wed May 17, 2006 8:51 am

The rebel

Are you the new atheist kid on the block?? You seem to be unraveling slowly , sneakishly, & discreetly. Rolling Eyes

The rebel · Post by **The rebel** » Wed May 17, 2006 8:54 am

No good Basra. I am a Muslim and will never leave my religion. I studied and came back to it. I found the truth in Islam.

Post by **Basra-** » Wed May 17, 2006 9:00 am

[quote="The rebel"]I studied and came back to it. .[/quote]

Huh??? So u left Islam & came back ?? Who are you kidding?? You are a walking stupid atheist. uuuff! Laughing

The rebel · Post by **The rebel** » Wed May 17, 2006 9:02 am

No. I am a Muslim Very Happy

Sir-Luggoyo · Post by **Sir-Luggoyo** » Wed May 17, 2006 9:03 am

The Rebel is just a lost kid or more appropriately a Rebel without a cause as LH wisely put it.

We are not in the days of Jahiliya when Abdulmuttalib approached Abraha when he waged war on the Kacbah and asked for his camels, not trying to dissuade or deter the imminent distruction of the Kacbah. When Abraha asked him about his aloofness to the forthcoming danger and his concern and drsire only to his camels, Abdulmuttalib answered that the camels are his and the Kacbah has a God that will protect it.

Today we have over 1.5 muwaxid and it's imperative to act upon any transgression towards Islam, we can not be bystanders and watch a filthy disowned garacad badmouth what we hold dear.

Rebel, why don't you take a stand and declare what exactly your intentions are? You are creeping out of a closet and we need to know what is in that closet.

avowedly-agnostic · Post by **avowedly-agnostic** » Wed May 17, 2006 9:08 am

Homer

I don't know which BBC report you're referring to, but News Night at 23:00 wasn't exactly very flattering to Ayan. The report branded her as a disgraced and fraudulent MP whose asylum to the Netherlands was based on lies and deceit. It even went so far as conducting an interview with her Kenya based Brother in what was clearly to the unbiased observer a smear campaign designed to discredit her Dutch citizenship.

Basra

Rebel hasn't said anything false regarding Islam. All he's done is advocate that people (Muslims in this case) respect and tolerate others whom they differ in beliefs with. That's what I would expect to find in any maxim- respect, compassion and tolerance toward your fellow man. There's nothing agnostic or at all atheist about respect and tolerance. They're universal values.

Post by **Basra-** » Wed May 17, 2006 9:16 am

'Rebel hasn't said anything false regarding Islam'

Avowedly annoying.... yeah yeah.... Rolling Eyes

....blah blah....& you Sir, have NOT said you are in fact--- 'The rebel' ! Very Happy

The rebel · Post by **The rebel** » Wed May 17, 2006 9:19 am

[quote="avowedly-agnostic"]Homer

I don't know which BBC report you're referring to, but News Night at 23:00 wasn't exactly very flattering to Ayan. The report branded her as a disgraced and fraudulent MP whose asylum to the Netherlands was based on lies and deceit. It even went so far as conducting an interview with her Kenya based Brother in what was clearly to the unbiased observer a smear campaign designed to discredit her Dutch citizenship.

Basra

Rebel hasn't said anything false regarding Islam. All he's done is advocate that people (Muslims in this case) respect and tolerate others whom they differ in beliefs with. That's what I would expect to find in any maxim- respect, compassion and tolerance toward your fellow man. There's nothing agnostic or at all atheist about respect and tolerance. They're universal values.[/quote]

Thanks mate. Very sad that the only people who think and got brain in this forums all of them are non-Muslims Embarassed

Sir-Luggoyo · Post by **Sir-Luggoyo** » Wed May 17, 2006 9:33 am

[quote="The rebel"]

Thanks mate. Very sad that the only people who think and got brain in this forums all of them are non-Muslims Embarassed

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Has anyone noticed how atheists start as being Muslims with different views in this medium, and then gradually come out of the closet full blown atheists? The only known atheist who braved and never hide his atheism was Galol, every other second hand atheist started as a Muslim and in a week or two, max, they are preaching Marx's school of thought, yaab

Well, Rebel, you are no different than the morons we have already seen, so why don't you just come out and say it loud