Can a raped woman be wed like a virgin?

1nemansquad · Post by **1nemansquad** » Mon May 29, 2006 8:45 pm

can a raped woman be wed like virgin or not raped woman? (according to the Sharia)

what does the Sharia says about rape?

if a woman is raped does she needs to provide four witnesses?

what if the accuser and the accused can't provide witness?

and last, this is just personal; as a man, if a girl you were suppose to wed is raped before the actual marriage to you took place would you still marry her?

Salaam

The Arabman · Post by **The Arabman** » Mon May 29, 2006 8:58 pm

I'll let the knowledgeable brothers/sisters (where's SoMaLiSiZz) answer the questions pertaining to Sharia, but I'll answer the personal question:

"as a man, if a girl you were suppose to wed is raped before the actual marriage to you took place would you still marry her?"

Yes, I would still marry her. And why not? She has been victimized; would I add insult to her wounds by not marrying her? Such a girl would need consolation, undestanding, care, protection, encouragement, etc.

SomaliLight · Post by **SomaliLight** » Mon May 29, 2006 9:04 pm

1nemansquad,

First, In Shariah Law a woman does not have to bring four witnesses in Rape cases. The burden of proof is on those who dispute her allegations of rape.

Shariah says rape is a crime, no witneses needed the woman's claim has all primacy, and it is between her and God if she lies. Punishment is the same as Ziina punishment, ie unmarried 100 lashes, married stoning to death or whatever they are using these days.

but rape is one of those subjects where cultural taboos take more primacy than actual religious or secular laws. In muslim and in the secular societies woman have suffered societal and cultural scorning for being the victim of rape, and the fault seems to always lie with her.

Arabian Man,

Is it not arab custom to have the bride deflowered by a female relative days prior to her consumation of the marriage? is that not a form of fornication/rape anyway?

1nemansquad · Post by **1nemansquad** » Mon May 29, 2006 9:19 pm

Somalilight, i don't value your comments at all however i thank you for your response anyway!

SomaliLight · Post by **SomaliLight** » Mon May 29, 2006 9:24 pm

you're welcome!!

B-MAX · Post by **B-MAX** » Mon May 29, 2006 11:56 pm

Is it not arab custom to have the bride deflowered by a female relative days prior to her consumation of the marriage?

Confused

What do they used in that process anyway?

SomaliLight · Post by **SomaliLight** » Tue May 30, 2006 12:00 am

Bmax,

are you kiding me? use your imagination... Laughing

B-MAX · Post by **B-MAX** » Tue May 30, 2006 12:08 am

BLUE RUSH · Post by **BLUE RUSH** » Tue May 30, 2006 5:58 am

[quote="SomaliLight"]

but rape is one of those subjects where cultural taboos take more primacy than actual religious or secular laws. In muslim and in the secular societies woman have suffered societal and cultural scorning for being the victim of rape, and the fault seems to always lie with her.

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ARE U STUPID Confused

WHEN HAS RAPE HAD ANYTHING TO DO WITH CULTURE..!!

or when has culture and religion been the same Rolling Eyes

SPLIT THE TWO APART MORON..!!

The rebel · Post by **The rebel** » Tue May 30, 2006 6:33 am

I will answer it as an expert in realities on the ground (According of Mahakem shar'eyah).

"can a raped woman be wed like virgin or not raped woman? (according to the Sharia) "

In Share'a there is 2 kind of marriage for women :

1. Theeb= she was married before , divorced or wodow.

2. Beker= never married before.

Even in Marriage certificate in Muslim countrious there are only those boxes to choose from. If the women was not chaste whatever the reason Zania or raped..that should be between two people whom are marrying and shouldn't share with others (e.g. the judge or the shiekh)

"what does the Sharia says about rape?"

Rape is a crime. The punishment is : first they took Allah's qesas which is lashes for none married or none-mohsen and stonning for mohsen or married. The second punishment is : they have to take her rights from him, so depends from country to another..where I live is 6 years prison and we never take him as a witness for rest of his life.

"if a woman is raped does she needs to provide four witnesses?"

She doesn't needs to provide any evidences but she should tell close people so that wont be "shobohah" letar on in her life.

'what if the accuser and the accused can't provide witness?'

The judge or justice system should take seriouslly those kind of accusation.. because if a woman accuses a man for that crime that would ruin his reputation for rest of his life. You can't accuse some one without proof. Otherwise he or she can sue you for "qathf" which is another crime and would be a prison and no one will take you as a witness for rest of your life.

Wallaho A'alam.

"and last, this is just personal; as a man, if a girl you were suppose to wed is raped before the actual marriage to you took place would you still marry her?"

Excuse me from this question.

Post by **Basra-** » Tue May 30, 2006 7:09 am

Can a Dumb person grow Brains?? Rolling Eyes

Babygal · Post by **Babygal** » Tue May 30, 2006 7:13 am

naya leave My cousin alone you fat cow... Rolling Eyes

Post by **Basra-** » Tue May 30, 2006 7:16 am

ok

Xyaad · Post by **Xyaad** » Tue May 30, 2006 7:17 am

Somalilight Quote: "First, In Shariah Law a woman does not have to bring four witnesses in Rape cases. The burden of proof is on those who dispute her allegations of rape.

Shariah says rape is a crime, no witneses needed the woman's claim has all primacy, and it is between her and God if she lies. Punishment is the same as Ziina punishment, ie unmarried 100 lashes, married stoning to death or whatever they are using these days."

This above statement from somalilight is true as i have read it on an islamic site depicting the same thing.

Btw if she was raped then she still is a virgin as she didn't give her consent!

furthermore i think these are one of the topics that are not discussed probably and taught to everyone!

Babygal · Post by **Babygal** » Tue May 30, 2006 7:18 am

seriously can a h.o.r.ney ho.e get a ceeb?.. Rolling Eyes