WILL THE WADAADS IN BURCO ATTACK SOMALILAND

[fagash_killer]

i hope so

[LionHeart-112]

Me too..The corrupt regime of Somaliland needs to be toppled.

[gurey25]

barawani boy, mind your own business

[gurey25]

burco already is a conservative islamic city.

[SomaliLight]

Much of SOmaliland already does operate in conservative Islamic matter...so what more islam do want from them? what excuse is there to attack a region which has closely guarded Islamic values?...an attack on Somaliland would be anything but islamic. I believe there is no justification for attacking another peaceful Muslim region for the purpose of political power.

If the courts even think attacking Sland, then there is contradiction in their claimed cause...if they wanna restore order, then why would they bother with somaliland, the only region of order in the former Somalia territories.

look at all these strange people championing religion by the barrel of the gun. The Courts are warlords, even their knowledge of the religion is weak paralleling Taliban level, and they draw their strength from the their guns. why would anyone want to be ruled by wadads with guns??

[gurey25]

Lets not get carries away .
nobody is going to attack anyone.

grassroot developments in xamar do not concern Somaliland,
and cannot have any effect, good or bad on somaliland.

[dhuusa_deer]

SomaliLight,

He said Wadaads IN Burco or Burco based prelates. Not Muqodisho wadaads.



Faqash,

I'm all for Wadaad attack granted it is Dumar wraped in thick, drab sheets. Like they did while back, remember the Burqa attack against police stations in Sland. That was hilarioius

[SomaliLight]

Gurey,

i know Hargesia is too far for those starving skinny Courts militia, i was just responding to Ina_Faqash's sudden obsession with the copy cat Wadaads in Burco:lol:


Viva Somaliland!! last standing Somali region.

[KUN-DILE]

Faqash_wh*re abahaa iyo Daaroodkaad ahayd dhakada kuusan ka w*s. Nacdalyey uraysa.

[Ceelgabo]

[quote="LionHeart-112"]Me too..The corrupt regime of Somaliland needs to be toppled.[/quote]


Why do you want to bring chaos and war to peace loving people in Somaliland. If people in Somaliland want to get ride of the corrupt government they will do it by voting them out , not by bringing chaos and war that has made us Refugees and country less.So before you think of bringing chaos and war remember why you are refugee and Remember peace is always better than war.

[fagash_killer]

[quote="Ceelgabo"][quote="LionHeart-112"]Me too..The corrupt regime of Somaliland needs to be toppled.[/quote]


Why do you want to bring chaos and war to peace loving people in Somaliland. If people in Somaliland want to get ride of the corrupt government they will do it by voting them out , not by bringing chaos and war that has made us Refugees and country less.So before you think of bringing chaos and war remember why you are refugee and Remember peace is always better than war.[/quote]

i rather want an strong somali leader than weak puppet leaders who are pro amxaaro like that in somaliland,puntland,djiboutie,somalia, its stupid if the wadaads in the south march to somaliland&puntland but remember that they got also supporters in the north who are pro wadaado i think that puntland could be easily be taking over with force somaliland is on other story but those ppl just like the wadaads in the south should start an new movement with their ppl than only can we take it over, but only if we got all the same goals and opnions if not than dont do it

[X.Playa]

How naive, and who told you that these Wadaads in different somali regions are oblivious to one another???

These Wadaads are more informed and goal driven and well organized then any other ideaologically driven folks. Those in Somaliland are well ahead and organized then those of Xamar. What they need is just a break of hostilities between the somaliland population and the stubron corrupt Ex-Afweyne hengemen who hold power in Somaliland.

If the current goverment in Somaliland sooner or later do not step down people will take it upon themselves to overthrow it by force. There are more corruption and abuse of power in Hargaysa then in the current Xamar, 1000's of the poor are in jail , jailed for no other reason then having a land wanted by the new rich elites. The entire Somaliland coast is rented out to different companies and the revnue is shared sceretly by Riyool's Isaaq coronies. 1/3 Of Somaliland territory is abondened by Riyaale and his hengmen to Puntland strong man Cade Muuse, basicly sold out. The entire economy is controlled by less then 20 rich traders, few others are allowd to break the status quo or wreck the pro- UDUB monoply.

There are huge wealth disparity between the east of somaliland and the west , the goverments den, folks in the east are more religious/poor and organized then Hargaysa.

The goverment have literally pissed and defacted on the constititution by extending the terms of the corrupt pro-Riyaale Big Wigs so called Gurti despite the opposition of 90% of Somaliland tribes who demand an elction when their mandates is finised (The Gurti were in power for over 20 years, since 1983) the oldest of the Gurti Cabdi Waraabe the scavenger is the richest man in Hargaysa in terms of Real State.

What is needed is just a spark of violence and a new civil war and somaliland will cease to exist,chaos is the Wadaad's best freind. When people grow sick and tired of the unholly alliance between the rich and the crooked politicians, people will trun to the Wadaads.

Faqash killa is right on the money, there might not be an excuse of the Wadaads in Somaliland to take over the helms of governing but they lack one thing... the conditions and choas that allowed their counter parts in Xamar to take over. And i can bet my money on it, sooner or later there will be an explosion in Hargaysa and Somaliland, people have been used and abused and taken for granted for so long that they have reached the limit of patinenc. Then, the Wadaads need no excuse to intervene.

The Wadaads have something that most of us lack, they live for the hereafter and hence they are more honest and truestworthy, and people like that.

[northeast]

bring it on !

we ready ru?

[fagash_killer]

[quote="X.Playa"]How naive, and who told you that these Wadaads in different somali regions are oblivious to one another???

These Wadaads are more informed and goal driven and well organized then any other ideaologically driven folks. Those in Somaliland are well ahead and organized then those of Xamar. What they need is just a break of hostilities between the somaliland population and the stubron corrupt Ex-Afweyne hengemen who hold power in Somaliland.

If the current goverment in Somaliland sooner or later do not step down people will take it upon themselves to overthrow it by force. There are more corruption and abuse of power in Hargaysa then in the current Xamar, 1000's of the poor are in jail , jailed for no other reason then having a land wanted by the new rich elites. The entire Somaliland coast is rented out to different companies and the revnue is shared sceretly by Riyool's Isaaq coronies. 1/3 Of Somaliland territory is abondened by Riyaale and his hengmen to Puntland strong man Cade Muuse, basicly sold out. The entire economy is controlled by less then 20 rich traders, few others are allowd to break the status quo or wreck the pro- UDUB monoply.

There are huge wealth disparity between the east of somaliland and the west , the goverments den, folks in the east are more religious/poor and organized then Hargaysa.

The goverment have literally pissed and defacted on the constititution by extending the terms of the corrupt pro-Riyaale Big Wigs so called Gurti despite the opposition of 90% of Somaliland tribes who demand an elction when their mandates is finised (The Gurti were in power for over 20 years, since 1983) the oldest of the Gurti Cabdi Waraabe the scavenger is the richest man in Hargaysa in terms of Real State.

What is needed is just a spark of violence and a new civil war and somaliland will cease to exist,chaos is the Wadaad's best freind. When people grow sick and tired of the unholly alliance between the rich and the crooked politicians, people will trun to the Wadaads.

Faqash killa is right on the money, there might not be an excuse of the Wadaads in Somaliland to take over the helms of governing but they lack one thing... the conditions and choas that allowed their counter parts in Xamar to take over. And i can bet my money on it, sooner or later there will be an explosion in Hargaysa and Somaliland, people have been used and abused and taken for granted for so long that they have reached the limit of patinenc. Then, the Wadaads need no excuse to intervene.

The Wadaads have something that most of us lack, they live for the hereafter and hence they are more honest and truestworthy, and people like that.[/quote]

well said , but the wadaads are sometimes to extremist they still didnt forgot what happend to few of their buddies who are till todau in jail and i still remember when sheikh dahar aweys said somalia is 1 and when few die hard isaaqs wrote a letter to him, brother dont forget that those faqash in udub party are spreading propagandas those tribes who live in somaliland dont know any jack about what hes doing waxaa laka yabaa that their are lot of them supporting the goverment than the wadaads cuss all they know is that they once tried to destore the elections so in somaliland can it be bloodly maybe worser than the cival war in the 90ste the only thing i dislike about the wadaads are they are 2 extremist and thats what the goverment is waiting for 1 wrong move by the wadaads and it can be over to them like you said sooner ore later their will be an explosion in somaliland but this time the differences between the warlords in the south and in the north is they are prepared for things like this i know for sure they will use all their money like the bush administration to fight terrorism and this will come out for the amxaaro and our enemies i dont think the wadaads are that dumb i dont really think they will strike first i think the goverment will but i think just like the elections day we will hear explosions excetly the goverment did like bush was behind 11 september and if once the pore civiallans hear things like that than the majorty of somaliland will once again stand behin the goverment and would rather support invasion against the wadaads that kind of things they really can do

and thats why one of the main raisons i believe in unity they all lied to us brother and if we dont look at tribalism than i see just that the world want to balkanize us its just bullshit somaliland and democraty and iit could be woser when kulmiye or ucid win the elections so really i dont see any differences between us after they done with somalia somaliland is next the only thing they will say now is somaliland is peacefull and i really believe that recognition will come so that we feel proud and that we should had believe in our socalled country but they mean excetly they want to divide us further if they wanted to recognise us they shoud had done it they just want to enjoy of their power like you see i own them if i want i can use the berbera port and hey i can also go the south and use abdallahi yusuf the enemy of somaliland hey i can also go to puntland and so on they are just playing f-king games with us it was true brother when our southerns brothers said if somalia is invisible so is somaliland, my hart goes out to those somalis in somaliland and in the outside world were beeing told lies sooner ore later it will collapse the only thing we can come out and save our ourselfs is to support the maxkamadaa and support unity cuss not only they can come out alone but with the support of all the somalis in and outside somalia its time that they should pay for their lies

just read this

The Signs Say Somaliland, but the World Says Somalia Posted by: qaran


By MARC LACEY
Published: June 5, 2006

HARGEYSA, Somalia — Edna Adan Ismail may get angry when she reads this. In fact, she may pick up the phone and vent, berating anyone with the gall to suggest that this city sits inside Somalia.

She will go on at length about the unique history of this region in the northwestern part of a place that she says used to be called Somalia but no longer is. She will describe the declaration 15 years ago making this an independent land and the referendum a decade later affirming it. She will emphatically say that this is not Somalia. It is Somaliland. Got it?

But she may be a bit premature in making that claim. Sure, Ms. Ismail, the foreign minister of the breakaway republic of Somaliland, considers this an independent land. But even a decade and a half after the area's so-called independence, no country in the world recognizes it as such. The African Union, which is made up of all the countries on the continent, does not acknowledge a Somaliland nation, nor does the United Nations.

In fact, just the other day, Ms. Ismail was chastising Eric Laroche, the United Nations' humanitarian coordinator for Somalia, because he dared send a letter to her government calling himself just that. She was outraged and offended, she said, and at a diplomatic reception that was anything but diplomatic she let Mr. Laroche know what she thought of his missive, which did not acknowledge Somaliland. Next time, she said in her rather blunt way, she will send such a letter back.

"We feel slighted, discriminated against, ignored and isolated," she explained later. "We've been doing our own thing for the last 15 years. We have put our act together. Instead of encouraging us, we are being pushed toward Somalia, which continues to fall apart."

Somaliland does have a rather unique history. After being a British protectorate since 1884, Somaliland became an independent country on June 26, 1960. The rest of present-day Somalia, then administered by Italy, became independent several days later. Within days, the two lands decided to merge.

But Somalilanders felt slighted almost from the start, since most of the power went to the south of the country. Somalilanders rejected a referendum on a unitary constitution in June 1961 and, later that year, military officers in Hargeysa began an unsuccessful rebellion to reassert Somaliland's independence.

Over the years, the leaders in Mogadishu fought to keep control of Somaliland. In 1988, a full-scale civil war broke out between the Mogadishu-based government and Somaliland rebels.

In May 1991, as Somalia descended into anarchy with the fall of the government of Gen. Mohamed Siad Barre, Somaliland declared itself independent. A decade later, a referendum in Somaliland on the issue showed 97 percent of the population in favor of independence, and Somaliland has essentially ruled itself, given the lack of a central government in Somalia.

But getting recognition from the rest of the world has proved nettlesome. African leaders are hesitant to acknowledge the claim for fear of stirring up more chaos in Somalia. They also do not want to encourage rebels elsewhere on the continent who desire independent states of their own.

Still, an African Union fact-finding mission declared last year that Somaliland's status was "unique and self-justified in African political history," and that "the case should not be linked to the notion of 'opening a Pandora's box.' "

The International Crisis Group, a nonprofit advocacy group based in Brussels that tries to prevent and resolve conflicts, recommended in a recent report that the African Union address the issue soon "to prevent a deeply rooted dispute from evolving into an open conflict."

Somalilanders celebrated those words, and then they continued doing what they have been doing for so long — waiting.

It is not easy being a Somalilander. The Somaliland passport — which bears the region's logo and looks as official as any other nation's — is not recognized by any country in the world, although the neighboring countries of Ethiopia and Djibouti do allow people to travel with it while still not officially recognizing Somaliland as a country.

The Somaliland president, Dahir Rayale Kahin, is regarded more as a governor by other nations, even though he considers himself to be as much a president as, say, Thabo Mbeki of South Africa, Mwai Kibaki of Kenya or Olusegun Obasanjo of Nigeria, three prominent presidents on this continent.

"I don't want to live in an isolated portion of this planet," said Mohamed M. Jamma, a law lecturer at the University of Hargeysa. "We fulfill all the criteria of a modern state. We've had elections. We have rule of law. Yet we are on the periphery."

Fifteen years is a long time to live in limbo, although Somalilanders have not just been biding their time. They have been hard at work, trying to rebuild a place that was in a shambles when it declared itself independent. The capital was virtually leveled by the government in Mogadishu as it sought to quell the rebellion. The countryside was littered with land mines. The same kind of bitter clan rivalry that has led to the collapse of the rest of Somalia was alive and well here, too.

Somaliland is now an oasis of sorts, a relatively peaceful, reasonably well functioning corner of a country that lies in ruins. Gunmen do not rule the streets here. The local police do. A series of elections have been held, including a presidential contest that was closer than the one in which George W. Bush beat Al Gore. The courts declared Mr. Kahin the victor and the populace accepted it. In essence, Somaliland has been able to manage interclan rivalry and build basic democratic institutions, whereas the rest of Somalia has found itself in an anarchic struggle for control.

Hargeysa is still a rundown place, although those who know what it was like 15 years ago rave about how it has risen from the rubble. There are still plenty of people living in squalor here, although Somalilanders point out that their fledgling nation has become a refuge for people from across the area in search of something Somaliland offers but the rest of Somalia does not — stability.

"Why not recognize us?" asked Khara Ahmed Biih, 44, who was walking down Hargeysa's main street the other day carrying a cane. "It makes us frustrated because if you see our country we have everything any other country does."

It is an argument Ms. Ismail, a midwife turned diplomat, has made many times, and is likely to make again, on the phone, any time now.

Source Newyork Times

[LionHeart-112]

Down, down Somaliland
Down, down Somaliand
We won't rest till there is a Habar Yoonis in the Mudul House
We won't rest till there is a Habar Yoonis in the Mudul House