Aashuun iyo tinaar

Grant · Post by **Grant** » Sat Jun 10, 2006 5:19 pm

One day a big trade truck rolled into Jilib, loaded clear to the top of the high wood-slatted sides with big pots of several descriptions.

Some were quite large and had on oval cross-section. These were intended for water and I believe are called aashuun (SP?).

Substantially smaller pots with a round cross-section I believe were for cooking and I never heard a name.

Deep, cylindrical pots were tinaar, used as ovens.

The quality of the pottery was wonderful. I remember especially how good cool beyo macaan tasted that had been kept in an aashuun.

What I am wondering is who would have made this pottery? I think the load I saw must have come from somewhere west of Jilib. Is some one group known for it, or do a lot of different groups make it ?

Unclebin · Post by **Unclebin** » Sat Jun 10, 2006 5:25 pm

Tumaal make stuff. But west of jilib its probably someone from kismayo. It could be some tunni or something.

kambuli · Post by **kambuli** » Sat Jun 10, 2006 9:11 pm

Grant,

Somehow when I hear Aashuun... my mind goes back to Somalia...I remember some of our classmates were from low income families.. You know everyone in Mogadisho did not live in a stone house( Sar ama daar).
Some lived in cariish... When we go to their houses... there was always
Aashuun.. and sufur...Some people used luubaan for the Aashuun and when you drink the water they smelled of LUUBAAN and btw that water tasted nice and cool Laughing

These pottery was ofcourse made by hard working Somalis who earned their living honestly... Unlike those Somalis that are and were a liability to the nation...

I love the Tinar... this one also takes me back to the real muufo... Hot from the Tiinaar.... Yummy Smile

Unclebin · Post by **Unclebin** » Sat Jun 10, 2006 9:18 pm

Kambulli

Grant wants too know the qabiils/groups/who what when where and why. Not your none qabiilist bullshit. He wants to buy something or find out how to locate it. Not the good peace loving somalis. Like muufo tinaar who makes the best muufo?

Your answer: The good somalis
My qabiilist but honest answer: Dumaarka Abgaal.

Intellectualsomali · Post by **Intellectualsomali** » Sun Jun 11, 2006 1:08 am

Grant, The ashuun is a waterpot. The tinaar is an oven. Throughout southern somali before the arrival of steel products, clay pots ( ashuun, tinaar and dheri) were used. A friend of mine in England has started a business with the purpose of importing these clay pots and selling theÃ‚Â´m overseas.

Cawar · Post by **Cawar** » Sun Jun 11, 2006 3:24 am

^^^Did you have to call yourself the Intel.-Somali(where are the Galols, Gureys, Gamdids, Arabmans, the Cawars, the Wisemen and many more??? Laughing

Well, we all know what they say about ppl who praise themsleves and only themselves. Very Happy

Grant,

"What I am wondering is who would have made this pottery? I think the load I saw must have come from somewhere west of Jilib. Is some one group known for it, or do a lot of different groups make it ?"

No particular Qabil or so responsible about anything...but the pottery was there and will always be there.

Btw...Jilib belongs to Jilibians of every qabil and origins...not HG, nor Abgaal. No wada Laan, Wacbuudhan and certainly and surely no to some self claimed Sheik like Indha-Cadde who claims to rule Merca where even his father?GarnPa had nothing to do with it. Smile

Intellectualsomali · Post by **Intellectualsomali** » Sun Jun 11, 2006 4:36 am

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"^^^Did you have to call yourself the Intel.-Somali(where are the Galols, Gureys, Gamdids, Arabmans, the Cawars, the Wisemen and many more???

Well, we all know what they say about ppl who praise themsleves and only themselves."
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Did you read anything that might bring my intelligence/intellect into question? What do you mean by "praise themselves" What is wrong with the answer I gave? Is it my reply that warrants the statement you jotted above? Or are you obsessed with playing hardball that is filled with air?

Do you suffer from an inferiority complex? Tell me what is that compelled you to jot those lines? Speaking of intellectuality sidetracking issues(this was about pots!) speak volumes- don't ya think?

same · Post by **same** » Sun Jun 11, 2006 5:39 am

Your descriptions are very correct.
A smaller pot for cooking is called dheri.
I don't really know who or were these things are made.
Tumaals are smiths - I don't think they are also potters.

Grant · Post by **Grant** » Sun Jun 11, 2006 10:01 am

Thanks to everyone.

I want to add that the quality of the pottery was really exceptional and I have no doubt it will find a market outside Somalia. I also saw a charcoal stove made from red clay in Barawe that I am certain would also have an outside market. Does anyone know anything about the incense burners made from meerschaum (a soft, white stone)?

Kambuli,

I lived in an cariish, so I do recognize that word, but I do not recognize sufer or luubaan and my dictionary is not being helpful. ???

I am with you! The taste of the water and the muufo are wonderful memories that will be with me the rest of my life.

kambuli · Post by **kambuli** » Sun Jun 11, 2006 10:23 am

Grant,

Walaal. The "sufur" is the metal cup that was always placed in the top of the Aashuun... The luubaan is also called FOOX in Somali... I do not know what they call in English. It is some thing like the Arabic Gum that they used to smoke on the aashuun.. and sometimes at homes in the evening. It is used in Mosques and even churches... I think it kinda killed the germs..

Walaahay I wouldn't mind to live in one of those Cariish if there is peace inour country.....The little blue Faynuus hanging in the middle of the room which has been cleaned perfectly with dumas ( ashes of the charcoal)... The bed (Digtoonow), the little table in side of the room with all these shining utencils etc Laughing

same · Post by **same** » Sun Jun 11, 2006 10:30 am

http://www.ceelbuurnet.com/Burjiko1.jpg

Meerschaum charcoal stoves (burjiko) and incense burners (idin) are from Ceelbuur, Somalia.

kambuli,
"sufri" is another word for "digsi" a metal cooking pot.
is "digtoonow" a name for a sort of bed. (google: do you mean jiimbaar Laughing

)
"digtoonow'' means (attention please!). It is also a military term.

Grant · Post by **Grant** » Sun Jun 11, 2006 10:52 am

Kambuli,

I had a sufer. We just didn't call is that.

Luubaan would be incense, either frankincensce or Myrrh.

Yep. My faynuus was blue too.

Same,

Do you know anything about the size of that meerschaum deposit at Ceelbuur? They use that stuff for expensive tobacco pipes. It is quite valuable.

kambuli · Post by **kambuli** » Sun Jun 11, 2006 3:13 pm

Same,

I didn't say "sufri" I said Sufur it is a stainless steel glass.....Pot is called sufri... The "digtoonow" bed was a also a tall bed with metal trails and it was always blue.....

PragmaticGal · Post by **PragmaticGal** » Sun Jun 11, 2006 5:17 pm

But why "digtoonow"? Did you have to sleep in it standing up-right?

Intellectualsomali · Post by **Intellectualsomali** » Sun Jun 11, 2006 11:46 pm

Did any of you sleep on an "alool" bed? "dirin"?

Of all the utensiles that somalis use my favourite is the "Haan", and the Toobte (aka dhakal, ameel).

Innovation at its best!