ISLAMIC COURT GOING TO FAR?ARE THEY THE NEW TALEBAN OF AFRC?
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ISLAMIC COURT GOING TO FAR?ARE THEY THE NEW TALEBAN OF AFRC?
MOGADISHU (Reuters) - Islamist militiamen shot in the air to disperse hundreds of Somalis protesting early on Saturday against moves by sharia courts to stop them watching the World Cup in the capital Mogadishu, residents said.
The soccer tournament had drawn huge crowds to television screens set up under trees and iron-sheeted shacks, providing some escape from the tension that has gripped Mogadishu since Islamists seized control from an alliance of warlords on Monday.
Witnesses said scores of young men set fire to tyres late on Friday in protests that carried on into the early hours of Saturday after Islamist gunmen pulled the plug on makeshift cinemas airing the soccer tournament.
Two people were wounded when militia tried to break up the demonstrations that centred around the main livestock market in an Islamist stronghold in the capital's north, residents said.
"The Islamic militia of the area issued an order to stop them watching films as well as the World Cup this year in Germany," said Elmi Muse, a resident contacted by Reuters.
"It is unacceptable to oppress the people," he added.
Similar moves by Islamist militia to close cinemas and video stores in Mogadishu last November triggered heavy fighting that killed at least 12 people and wounded more than 20.
Leaders of the capital's influential Islamic courts oppose Western and Indian films which they say promote immorality in the mainly Muslim nation of 10 million people.
Some residents fear the latest move to outlaw foreign entertainment is proof the Islamists want to create a Muslim state following their victory against a self-styled anti-terrorism coalition of secular warlords, believed to be backed by Washington.
The Islamic courts have been popular for restoring a semblance of order through sharia law in parts of the anarchic city, carved into fiefdoms by warlords who ousted military ruler Mohamed Siad Barre in 1991.
However, the World Cup ban stirred resentment among locals, already weary of the fighting in Mogadishu that has killed 350 people in three months.
"The residents of this area are very sorry about the way the Islamic militia is behaving towards the people at a time when our society needs peace and stability," said Moallim Hussein Abdi, a teacher.
One teenager was defiant.
"We do not accept the Islamic militia stopping us from watching the World Cup," Ahmed Yusuf, 19, said. "We'll continue demonstrating until they relent."
Source: Reuters, June 10, 2006
The soccer tournament had drawn huge crowds to television screens set up under trees and iron-sheeted shacks, providing some escape from the tension that has gripped Mogadishu since Islamists seized control from an alliance of warlords on Monday.
Witnesses said scores of young men set fire to tyres late on Friday in protests that carried on into the early hours of Saturday after Islamist gunmen pulled the plug on makeshift cinemas airing the soccer tournament.
Two people were wounded when militia tried to break up the demonstrations that centred around the main livestock market in an Islamist stronghold in the capital's north, residents said.
"The Islamic militia of the area issued an order to stop them watching films as well as the World Cup this year in Germany," said Elmi Muse, a resident contacted by Reuters.
"It is unacceptable to oppress the people," he added.
Similar moves by Islamist militia to close cinemas and video stores in Mogadishu last November triggered heavy fighting that killed at least 12 people and wounded more than 20.
Leaders of the capital's influential Islamic courts oppose Western and Indian films which they say promote immorality in the mainly Muslim nation of 10 million people.
Some residents fear the latest move to outlaw foreign entertainment is proof the Islamists want to create a Muslim state following their victory against a self-styled anti-terrorism coalition of secular warlords, believed to be backed by Washington.
The Islamic courts have been popular for restoring a semblance of order through sharia law in parts of the anarchic city, carved into fiefdoms by warlords who ousted military ruler Mohamed Siad Barre in 1991.
However, the World Cup ban stirred resentment among locals, already weary of the fighting in Mogadishu that has killed 350 people in three months.
"The residents of this area are very sorry about the way the Islamic militia is behaving towards the people at a time when our society needs peace and stability," said Moallim Hussein Abdi, a teacher.
One teenager was defiant.
"We do not accept the Islamic militia stopping us from watching the World Cup," Ahmed Yusuf, 19, said. "We'll continue demonstrating until they relent."
Source: Reuters, June 10, 2006
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Propaganda straight up
I talk to some people, they said they're relative were watching the world-cup just fines in xamar, it was probaly couple of people......... (X-isbaaro) memeber trying to take advantage of the current situation, an arguement broke out, couple of shots fired in the air, people ran home.
warlord heard about it, phoned reatures........... with bogus, sham, phony, counterfeit stories of, as usual wester media stretched out the incident profoundly.

I talk to some people, they said they're relative were watching the world-cup just fines in xamar, it was probaly couple of people......... (X-isbaaro) memeber trying to take advantage of the current situation, an arguement broke out, couple of shots fired in the air, people ran home.
warlord heard about it, phoned reatures........... with bogus, sham, phony, counterfeit stories of, as usual wester media stretched out the incident profoundly.

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There are no islamic courts in somalia. What you have is a tribal court that uses islam. Did you see any somali from strong clans sentenced by the islamic courts?
The "islamic" courts pass sentence on unarmed clans (did you the pictures of the innocent man knifed and cheered upon?)
Or the "confistication" of goods from the unarmed?
The "islamic" courts pass sentence on unarmed clans (did you the pictures of the innocent man knifed and cheered upon?)
Or the "confistication" of goods from the unarmed?
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The Islamic courts are blessing in disguise in my view. Just what Somalia needs to garner attention of the world again. Heard Washington is setting up a task force or something similar on Somalia. In the event religious hotheads gain further powers and implement they're impractical and draconian laws there is good chance the international community will actively get involved if for no other reason then to stymie the tide of Islamism.
Somalia needs a shot in the arm... an outsider to come in and shake things up. Putting some sense and urgency into idle minds of current potentates. Cause I don't see it coming from within. Sadly.
Somalia needs a shot in the arm... an outsider to come in and shake things up. Putting some sense and urgency into idle minds of current potentates. Cause I don't see it coming from within. Sadly.
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[quote="QansaGabeyle"]You are a Tanzanian citizen. You shouldn't worry about what happens in Somalia since it does not concern you.[/quote]
LOL: First and foremost you don't have to be a Somali to be concern about whats going on in somalia..the senseless carnage and futile exchange of violence based on the sick ideology of tribal manure is of concern to every sane human being and african in particular. My concern is not based on the fact that my grand parent were of Somalian decendants but my view is a product of a concern african individual. I found hard to fathom that for one to render his or her political/social views about the tribal quagmire engulfing the country he/her must be from Somalia is in my view that is all in all a product of bias and selfish mind.

LOL: First and foremost you don't have to be a Somali to be concern about whats going on in somalia..the senseless carnage and futile exchange of violence based on the sick ideology of tribal manure is of concern to every sane human being and african in particular. My concern is not based on the fact that my grand parent were of Somalian decendants but my view is a product of a concern african individual. I found hard to fathom that for one to render his or her political/social views about the tribal quagmire engulfing the country he/her must be from Somalia is in my view that is all in all a product of bias and selfish mind.

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'ISLAMIC COURT GOING TO FAR?ARE THEY THE NEW TALEBAN OF AFRCA?'
I don't think so. I observed and found out Somalis in General very different from Taliban tribes or even Arabs. While Taliban banned women to get education or work. Somalis wouldn't do that. Your culture very different and your Islam are different too. Probably, as most of Muslim, you'll choose from Islam what fits into your culture and ignore the rest. For example, women issues, Somalis would never do like Taliban. Somali women or African women in general are strong women and men out there not jealous kind men.
I don't think so. I observed and found out Somalis in General very different from Taliban tribes or even Arabs. While Taliban banned women to get education or work. Somalis wouldn't do that. Your culture very different and your Islam are different too. Probably, as most of Muslim, you'll choose from Islam what fits into your culture and ignore the rest. For example, women issues, Somalis would never do like Taliban. Somali women or African women in general are strong women and men out there not jealous kind men.
lol coolman...sahib your view might be operating in a credible assumption...its fair to note my comment or the news article above is not out of the ordinary..we all know that Somalis are naturally inclined to spouse a radical version of anything Politics and Islam..the response that the above article has received from most of Snet members is not an usual...as Somalis have extreme yet innate sense of paranoa when dealing with western media although this attitude is rational at times, but most of the time there is desire to outright block and refute what is true for the sake of maintaing the farcade of the so callled "perfect culture" or "them against us" attitude.
But with regard to the above subject matter I do accept there is posibility the news article or the story for that matter was manufactured to demonises the Islamic court, but at many instance I have seen in somalinet there are deliberate attempt to refute and denied what is the norm and universal, when it comes on dicerning news matter that are of Islamic nature or that deals with Somalia tribal and political dillema.

But with regard to the above subject matter I do accept there is posibility the news article or the story for that matter was manufactured to demonises the Islamic court, but at many instance I have seen in somalinet there are deliberate attempt to refute and denied what is the norm and universal, when it comes on dicerning news matter that are of Islamic nature or that deals with Somalia tribal and political dillema.

tz bro, i haven't read the article, i ain't gona bother reading it. i have stopped reading western propaganda when i realised everything about them is biased and based soley on self praise, self praise and the degrading of others.
I deduced my comments above from the title of your topic.
in somalia, alot of things happen worse than banning of a amere football game. why don't you ask youself why is stopping a crowd from watching a stupid game garnering more attention than worse things that happen daily back home
i will answr you in short, it's because thsese fockers never let an opportunity to degrade/slander muslims'/ islam cease.
unfortunately we have many idiots that fall for this bs hook line and sinker without looking left and right or asking questions. i am sure you are better than these gullibles. you sound to me as an intelligent person. try to get your news from other sources and not rely much on the wetern news outlets if you want to get to the bottom of the things
I deduced my comments above from the title of your topic.
in somalia, alot of things happen worse than banning of a amere football game. why don't you ask youself why is stopping a crowd from watching a stupid game garnering more attention than worse things that happen daily back home

i will answr you in short, it's because thsese fockers never let an opportunity to degrade/slander muslims'/ islam cease.
unfortunately we have many idiots that fall for this bs hook line and sinker without looking left and right or asking questions. i am sure you are better than these gullibles. you sound to me as an intelligent person. try to get your news from other sources and not rely much on the wetern news outlets if you want to get to the bottom of the things

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