Isn't this evidently Jihaad?

[1nemansquad]

when a Muslim who's defending him self, country, brothers, sisters, children and people blows him self up and long the way takes the lifes of his enemies?

how could this be terrorism?

and who said suicide bombing is Haram?

the people who do this great job are Shaheeds

they sacrifice their lives in order to save their other Muslim brothers and sisters, when the suicide bombing becomes Haram is if that bomber blast himself in a place where there are only Muslims then its Haram

for instance, the suicide bombing that took place in Karachi that was Haram; the suicide bomings that are on a daily basis taking place in Iraq are Haram

suicide bombing in israel is not Haram for the reason that these jews kill our brothers and sisters for no other motive except ravenousness and detestation for the Muslim-Ummah

the courageous, brave people of palestine are not left with no option other then sacrifising their lives for their children, mothers/fathers, brothers and sisters and for the sake of Islam

it shatters my heart so see soo called Muslims calling these brothers and sisters names and judging them

visualize being in their situation, where everything you loved, worshiped and is taken away?

your children getting killeed right before your eyes

your driven away from your home illegitimately

your place of worship is demolished so is your homes

who are you to say they are not Shaheeeds? Allah (SWT) has complete say in that no one else

if you haven't thought of what Terrorist really means? permit me to make clear to you what it means

it is a term the U.S and other western countries put on any organization, mostly Muslim organizations, that are against their political, military, and foriegn policy



Allahu Akbar

[Galol]

Squad

ma rabtaa inaad is qarxiso adigu inankow? Uma baahnid bamb - waxa keli ah oo aad u baahan tahay waa inaad isku deydo inaad fekerto. kuleylka ay jenerayt gareyso godka madhan ee labadaada dhegood u dhexeeya qaraxa ka dhaca ayaa Hirishima ka weynaanaya.

Good luck.

[1nemansquad]

can anyone comprehend what this spiteful pig wrote?

what kinda somali is this and where is it spoken?

[Demure]

Oneman, I can understand why the Palestinians blow themselves up, frustration and depression. It's an act of pure desperation nothing to do with Jihaad. I believe they can do better to defend themselves instead of this half-hearted passive aggressive state they are in.

[Galol]

Squad

What it says is this: take a chill pill and stop talking about god and people blowing themselves up and chit. Fanta qabow cab. Kubbad ciyaar. hooyo cagaha u qabqabo. Naso hee aboowe nooh.

[Happy Desperado]

i agree with demure, the palestinians are frustrated and its hard to judge them without having a first hand experience of what they are going through. but come on, there must be a way of fighting back without killing themselves.

[The Arabman]

"It's an act of pure desperation nothing to do with Jihaad."

It has something to do with Jihaad. If what you have stated is your personal viewpoint, then that's understandable. However, our leading Ulemas (including the respected Qaradawi) have stated the kind of bombings our Palestinian brothers/sisters engage in is Jihaad. There are weapons/arms embargoes and sanctions against the Palestinians. Their enemies have unlimited tanks, helicopters, war planes and other sophisticated weapons/arms. For Palestinians, there are only two options; fight with any means or let the enemy kill them without resisting. Their lands is being confiscated, and little by little they are being ethnically cleansed from towns and cities they have lived in for millennia.

[Demure]

Arabman, It is indeed my personal view as most of things I say around here. My definition of a Jihaad is going to war actually. This passive-aggressive approach they've been following is really not getting them anywhere, after few years of such a "no resolution" endeavors, perhaps it's time to devise a new tactic to beat their enemy. I do feel sorry for the Palestinian people they have been blessed with a sham of a leadership and a bunch of lackeys for a kinsmen.

[mahamed99_sex]

iam not going to comment on it becuase i dont want the FBI to wire tab my house so peace .

[Advocator]

^^So why did you leave a comment, stating that you dont want to comment...contridiction eh??, or better yet How much are they paying you!!?

Let me say it for yu!!! Fock FBI-CIA-USC-and Ucid party..............

[mahamed99_sex]

i love america.that is iam going to say.

[dhuusa_deer]

[quote="Demure"]Oneman, I can understand why the Palestinians blow themselves up, frustration and depression. It's an act of pure desperation nothing to do with Jihaad. [/quote]

True say... suicide bombing is what's called by Western militaries Asymmetrical warfare.

But what sets apart Islamic suicide bombings is the whole martyrology business... the 72 fair eyed virgins and complete and utter wantoness!

[1nemansquad]

there is a hadiith

Prophet Muhammad (SAS) said: the time will come that the one who kills does not know who is he going to kill, and the one who is getting killed doesn't know who has killed him?
the Sahabah RA asked, then are they going to Jannah or Jahannom?
Propeht Muhammad (SAS) replied, it depends on their neyyah

[Steeler [Crawler2]]

Ahab
You are quite correct in your analysis that slowly, but surely, the Palestinians are being ethnically cleansed from the West Bank. The question is why? Are the Jews just evil? Do the Palestinians really want peace and are being forced into these desperate acts? The truth is simple if you are honest in your analysis.

The UN resolution that partitioned he British Protectorate of Palestine into two states was accepted by the Jews, rejected by the Arabs. The Arabs believed that were stronger than they were (this is a recurring problem for Arabs), and thought they could destroy the emerging state of Israel. Not only did the Arabs fail to do this, but they allowed the Jewish state to enlarge itself in the process of trying to get rid of it. They also convinced the Jews that they had in the Arabs an intractable enemy who was not willing to negotiate in good faith.

In 1967, as the Arabs prepared again to attack the Jewish State, the Israelis seized the West Bank. The Jews quite rightly reason that a surprise Arab strike could split Israel in two rapidly and put the states existence into jeapordy. Considering these were survivors of the holocaust, there was no way they were going to risk such an event again. Hence in 67 the leaders of Israel decided that the West Bank would have to be permanently under Jewish military control. And the best way to ensure that was to settle it and slowly push the Arabs out.

In 1973 the Arabs did the Jews yet another favor with a surprise attack. This attack threatend the Jews in the Golan and causualty rates in the Golan and in the Sinai were high. The Jews correctly argued that had the attack begun in the West Bank instead of the Golan, Israel might well have been overrun before it could organize a proper defense. The hardliners had yet more ammunition to argue with.

Then finally an Arab leader uses the sense that God gave him, recovers his land through NEGOTIATION (the Sinai) and is killed for it by religious idiots who don't have the sense that God gave them. The conclusion be the Jews: Arabs can not be trusted over the long term. Their radical elements will not honor international agreements made by their predecessors. This causes retrenchment by the hardliners.

Now during all of this time, the PLO kills all and sundry Israelis just because they are Israelis. For many Jews, this legitimizes the notion of killing Arabs because they are Arabs, and certainly makes the idea of cleansing the West Bank seem completely legitimate.

Now here we are today. The Palestinians are hopelessly outclassed. Abbas recognizes this and is trying to develop a political solution to save what is left of the fragmented Palestinian state. But the problem is the Palestinians don't want peace. They want victory, they power. The fighting and killing go on because they want it to, or because they don't want peace enough to stop it. The Jews can not give in, because they have no where else to go. They will never give up their state. The foolish idea tht says "if we just keep attacking them, they will quit" has been demonstrated as failed policy. We are 60 years on, the Jews show no sign of quitting. That's because they can't quit. Meanwhile, three successive generations of Palestinians have grown up with ever increasing poverty, political chaos and repression. This is the cost of waging Jihad that you can't win. Israel is now a nuclear armed state with 200 warheads. Even if the Arabs could get their military heads together, they can never overrun Israel. They can only guarantee the destruction of ALL of their major cities. The best they can hope for is a Mexican stand off.

The time is ripe for a negotiated settlement. Abbas knows this. He is hoping that finally the Paleistinian people know it too and are willing to demonstrate that in referendum. The Palestinians stand at the cusp of a key decision. Do they keep on fighting, and by doing so guarantee their continued suffering, poverty and slowly be cleansed from the West Bank? Or do they negotiate now and salvage what can be salvaged through a two state solution?

As for Squads interpretation of suicide bombing. A case can be made that it is legitimate when it is performed against a military foe. But no case can be made that it is legitimate when the foe is a non-combatant. That can not be the target. If you say that is legitimate, then you have to agree that Muslim non-combatants are legitimate targets. And I don't think you agree with that. Remember, what is OK for Muslims, is OK for non-Muslims. In your own mind they may not be the same, but in life, and in combat, they are.

[gurey25]

f i was an isreali leader, i would never give up control of a single inch of land,
becuase of the lack of strategic depth.
I was surprised by the 1993 peace accords, but it only took me a couple of years to realise that is was just another clever jewish trick, they never gave up control, they just sub contracted security to the PLO who have already sold out on the Palestinian dream a long time ago and was full of corrupt
beauracts. To top it offit would have worked out perfectly and Arafat would have played along,
knowing all too well who he was serving. Arafat was ready to swallow this becuase all this hade the facade of an independant palestine, a realisation of their dreams, and arafat was happy with illusions.

Unfortunatley or Fortunatley depending on which side you are on, Netanyahu and Hamas got in the way and together put a spanner in the works, and disrupted the whole enterprise.
Without them you would have had a peacefull, prospering palestine that was a colony of Isreal.