Secular Waqooyi Leaders: Risk to Somalia?

[The Arabman]

In the event a war erupts between Ethiopia & Somalia (Islamic Courts), secular warlords/leaders of the breakaway Waqooyi region are likely to side with Ethiopia. It's possible those warlords/leaders would militarily support Ethiopia. Do they represent a risk to Somalia?

[Sakhraan]

maxaan necbahay markay dadku gusoo hoos gabadaan diinta, ma waxaad ka mid tahay qoladan la sheegayo ee la yidhaa Caydha( ahaan jireeen).


Cidna diinta kama xigaan Gadheera yaashu, wax secular la yidhaa ma jiraan


Sakhraan, seeker of truth & justice

[intellex]

one question how can you claim to be a wadaad when you kill innocent people ??

[The-Screw]

this is "likely" to happen.

that is "likely" to happen.

This could "possibly" take place...blah blah blah you sound like a FOX news analyst...fock off. you dont know what these people can or cannot do, stop assuming so much. just say it, you are just as qabiilist as anyone else on these forum, stop hiding behind this "wadaad image". its very obvious what you're trying to do here buddy, nice try though...

[The Arabman]

"one question how can you claim to be a wadaad when you kill innocent people ??"

So, you're saying you can only kill innocent people if you claim to be a non-wadaad? What has your question got to do with the poll?

"you dont know what these people can or cannot do"

Maybe you're right. However, since the antithesis of secular is Islamist, a secular supporting his/her own kind is a natural phenomenon.

[gurey25]

Arabman is just bieng silly, but provocative enough to warant a response.

What makes us likely to support ethiopia in that event?

Why would we participate in such an act?

and what threat are you talking about?
due to geography and underdeveloped infrastructure nobody can threaten anyone, even the ethiopians who have greater capabilities are constrained by the same factors.( explains why nothing larger than a brigade ever managed to operate within our borders).



@ warlord/leaders looks like you are learning.

[QansaGabeyle]

"you sound like a FOX news analyst"

I thought you got all your news from FOX. What hell the happened.

[The Law26]

Arabman is a bigoted b.stard who uses and misuese Islam only to defame and torment other Muslims. In his weak attempt he portrayed Somaliland as an un-Islamic legal entity and tribalists such as warlords Dahir Aweys, Indhocadde and their cousins as genuine Muslims interested to manage Somalia in the name of Islam. They are merely Wahabi tribal warlords like the Saudis and if Ethiopia attacks them, let them make sure that they wipe them all. Here is what Nur wrote in SomaliaOnline wrote in a topic titled;

"Are we Ready for Sharia Laws"?

"When we say Islamic, we have to make sure that we are branding it as genuine Islam, not a rigged system, otherwise, the damage to the brand name will be irreversible.

As for applying parts of islamic Sharia in Anarchist communities such as Mogadishu, we must recogocnize that Islamic Sharia is best applied when the ground work is done for its application, In Mogadishu, the foundations are not in place, the staff is not trained, triabalism remians to be a driving force ( Faqiih tolkii kama janno tago, meaning, a religious scholar does not enter paradise alone without his tribe, he is normally expected to go wherever they go, hell or heaven).

The Sharia courts in Mogadishu may not be conviction driven which is necessary but not sufficient condition for its success, in reality they are need driven, and for that matter the same courts can work in Watts, Los Anegles, Haarlem in New York, and in deadly Southeast Washington DC. Just approach mayors in these cities and you may be given the approval, once you weed out the criminals, the credit goes for the mayor in next election, and the selective Sharia clauses that bhelped him get votes is discarded.

The Sharia law is the culmination of many processes that should all be in place before it can be applied. Beginning with a sovereign territory, an educated citizenry who subscribe to it, a wise judicial system, and an ethical executive branch of government to enforce it. We must recognize that if majority of people are looting, its due to failure of governmemt to educate, lack of planning of resources for their needs or a general breakdown of law and order. To rebuild, we need peace first, so these Mogadishu courts are doing a good job only if they would not use Islamic banner since there is nothing Islamic about what is going on in Somalia. ( Peoples Courts would be a catchy logo) Secondly, work with Dawa groups that are successfull in converting Moriyans to a Muslim, and thirdly educate the masses through media."

http://www.somaliaonline.com/ubb/ultima ... 3;t=002258

I see that Arabman, Qaniisgabeyle, Habashow, Otali and every other demented biased individual on this landfill jumped on the opportunity and bandwagon to spew hatred, call for the destruction of other Somalis and spin warlords Aweys and Indhocadde as genuine Islamic leaders, all in the name of tribal rivalry. Keep pumping your deep seated hatred and dress it next time a Budhist clothing and see if we care. Or, take this crap to ignorant Somalis who cant distinguish what is real and what is myth.

[Aiman]

http://www.somaliaonline.com/ubb/ultima ... 3;t=002258

Bla bla bla.... is like saying are we ready to die or not? baseless argument for nothing.

Ready or not Sharia Law must be enforced in Somalia and there is nothing that the Xabashi Dabodhilifs can do about it insha-Allah.

[The Law26]

[quote="Aiman"]http://www.somaliaonline.com/ubb/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic;f=3;t=002258

Bla bla bla.... is like saying are we ready to die or not? baseless argument for nothing.

Ready or not Sharia Law must be enforced in Somalia and there is nothing that the Xabashi Dabodhilifs can do about it insha-Allah.[/quote]

Amina

love, and what is your point? Why not address the objectionable points raised by Nur? Like warlords Indhacadde and Aweeys, you and this mob are merely a decietful bunch hiding in the name of Islam, and that is why you guys are worse than the Habashi's. Mind you am neither a Somalilander, nor an Isaaq, but an honest and unbiased Muslim Somali. On the other hand, you, Qaniisgabeyle, Arabfag are merely remenants of Afweeyne dressed now in an Islamic clothing to score a vengence point against other Muslims. I hope the Habashis skin you all alive. Go and fight for Warlord Aweys and Indhocadde, or keep su.cking the welfare of Gaalos and be couch potato tribal warriors.

[Freakishly_Free]

^You care calling anothre man love and you want to be considered a muslim?

Arabman does have a point. Northerns are smarter therefore less religious.

[The Law26]

[quote="Freakishly_Free"]^You care calling anothre man love and you want to be considered a muslim?

Arabman does have a point. Northerns are smarter therefore less religious.[/quote]

Are you another love who shares a passionate hatred of northern/Somaliland Muslims with those tribalists? A coalition of evil tribalists, athiests, and the other parrots. Help those deaf and dumb parrots to address the points that Nur raised above.

[1nemansquad]

^^ and you are somebodies husband, son, brother and possibily a father? what a disgusting fock you are

i feel bad for those in your life

Mowhawk, tell your mother weey qasaartey

[biko]

if the wadaado in question are as mulsim as you then the best and smartest thing any huiman bein should do is to be against them and that fake qoran they hiding behind.

with haters like you, who focking need enemies.

maybe you should write a letter to osama bin ladett and his crew.


PS...is it true that osama's crew never go anywhere without lubricant? answer will much appreciated.

[The rebel]

" we need peace first, so these Mogadishu courts are doing a good job only if they would not use Islamic banner since there is nothing Islamic about what is going on in Somalia. ( Peoples Courts would be a catchy logo) Secondly, work with Dawa groups that are successfull in converting Moriyans to a Muslim, and thirdly educate the masses through media."

I swear, this is what I keep telling Islamists everywhere. Educate the people about Islam, build justice system, which there is no this; is my brother or neither uncle nor this I have the same Islam as his or mine. Prophet (PBOH) was preaching over 13 years in Mecca and as you know all Meccian verses deals with the basic of Islam ( wah- daneyat Allah) Al-Towheed. Allah revealed Quran not in a few days or few months/years but 23 years.

If we can learn anything from that, we learn that Prophet with order of Allah wanted to prepare them, teach them, and train them to the heavy duty of the Da'wah. We are today (as Muslims everywhere) we are in Jahiliya stage just how pagan Arabs were when Islam came, just without tans or camels. We are riding 2006 Mercedes and live in beautiful a houses, we go to school and carry higher degrees but reality we are in first Jahiliya (Jaheliyat al-olla). But creating courts without having educated judges, Lawyers, in both Islam law and civil law. First, create jobs or have such a social system (beyt zakat) to feed hungry people, before you chop their hands. That is cruel and against Islam. I would say no single Muslim country who is ready for Islamic law Â…Maybe Iran(I am not sure though).

When tell them above all I got from my professors was I am (rafethey). Means rejecters or (shiÂ’a)!!

About Somali case, what's Islamic about it? Wearing that 'omamah or head cover and uttering few Arabic is that Islamic? I have my uncles who are from my home town and they are jewish but wear same as those Somalis in the court. No joke.